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[Gaztee]

Tyrant, on Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:51 PM, said:

BuddyBuddies, on Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:24 PM, said:

i think i just popped a chubby!!

Uh... do I want to ask what you mean by that?

It means exactly what you think it means!! This is jag porn for Buddies & the same thing always happens!!

[bmx]

Yeah! Can't wait to give a random stranger money for it!  
I just want this game.  

[save2600]

Great, now Soulstar is going to wind up another $80 sexploitation Jaguar "tape" to invest in.  

Where's the sign-up form?  lol

Edited by save2600, Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:27 AM.

[neo_rg]

The next thing to do is extensive playtesting to make it is all there, the 2 player
option is as far as I know still not working, but it may be replaced with a 1 player
trained option, or we will try to fix it. But if everything else in the game works
as it should then there could be a chance of a release.

[PeterG]

neo_rg, on Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:48 PM, said:

The next thing to do is extensive playtesting to make it is all there, the 2 player
option is as far as I know still not working, but it may be replaced with a 1 player
trained option, or we will try to fix it. But if everything else in the game works
as it should then there could be a chance of a release.

@Playtesting. Don't know how it is in your version but in the one I have, there is sometimes a problem with switching weapons and the ram and that other weapon ( forgot how it is called)
It isn't that important and does not occur every time, but if it is something fixable, you guys might want to take a look into it aswell.

[CyranoJ]

Ta dah!

The booter CD contains NO, NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA code from Soulstar. Can't object to that, now can they?

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[busterm]

So is this actually going to be released? If so thank god!!

[Willard]

nice to see that a complete version of SS may get a release afterall!

Good luck with whatever you guys decide to do with it, the JagCD def. needs more games and tramiel-era protos are always very interesting

[remowilliams]

Well I can now safely say too bad this didn't get released back in the day, it'd have been an awesome addition to the otherwise rather sad JagCD libray.  

[Gaztee]

remowilliams, on Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:25 PM, said:

Well I can now safely say too bad this didn't get released back in the day, it'd have been an awesome addition to the otherwise rather sad JagCD libray.  

Can you then confirm IF the 2 player is still broken??

[jaguar_fan]

Wow, great news!!!

I´m definately "in" when it comes to a release...

Where´s the end of the line?

[the.golden.ax]

CyranoJ, on Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:25 PM, said:

Ta dah!

The booter CD contains NO, NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA code from Soulstar. Can't object to that, now can they?

So the logic is to release a free proto, and charge for a disc that makes it work? Seems perfectly reasonable and legal to me.

AX

[Tempest]

the.golden.ax, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:14 AM, said:

So the logic is to release a free proto, and charge for a disc that makes it work? Seems perfectly reasonable and legal to me.

AX

Unfortunately that doesn't fly in a court of law.  You can't sell sports tickets at face value and charge $500 for the cup of water that comes with it, so I can't see how this would be any different.

Tempest

[sh3-rg]

Tempest, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:21 AM, said:

Unfortunately that doesn't fly in a court of law. You can't sell sports tickets at face value and charge $500 for the cup of water that comes with it, so I can't see how this would be any different.

Tempest

Who sells sports tickets with cups of water? Bizarre analogy.

"comes with" is the key. Nothing would come with form what I gather. There would be a disc for sale that allowed anyone who owned the proto to make better use of it.

[Tempest]

sh3-rg, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:36 AM, said:

Who sells sports tickets with cups of water? Bizarre analogy.

It was a thing they did around here when scalping sporting event tickets.  They got around the anti-scalping laws by selling the tickets at face value and then offering something common (generally a bottle of water) for a large amount of money.  They thought they could circumvent the law the way but the courts saw it differently.

Tempest

[the.golden.ax]

So then it's just a boot loader, and you go "find" the ISO of the working game somewhere. Since the bootloader is homebrew, and doesn't contain any Soulstar code, so long as the name, IP, and game code are not with it, I can't see how anyone could get hurt. It will be interesting to see what happens.

AX

[Tyrant]

Correct me if I'm wrong here though, but Reboot aren't trying to make a lot of money out of this. I wouldn't be surprised (although obviously can't speak for them) if they didn't release it free or at cost. The issue isn't how much they're charging but if they have the legal right to distribute the game. If they're not distributing the game, but simply a loader-disk for the game, that's gotta be a legal grey area at best. The closest analogy would be a mod-chip, but they're made and sold for profit, and live in a grey area in many parts of the world. I haven't researched it, but I would imagine most of the legal challenges to mod-chip makers is that they are profiting from the facilitation of copyright infringement, which would not be the case if the loader disk were freely available.

Still, this is all rather academic for now, and IANAL anyway, just offering a few opinions.

[Willard]

I think the closest commercial release that is similar to this idea is the Bleem! discs released for the Dreamcast. They didn't contain the actual game but 'let you play it.'

I'm a bit confused now though, if the patch is for the image already floating around (with corrupted graphics) then will it solve those issues? Or are you going to do a 'free' release of neos image and sell the patch?

Edited by Willard, Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:32 PM.

[sh3-rg]

Tyrant, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:54 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong here though, but Reboot aren't trying to make a lot of money out of this.

Woop woop!

Reboot aren't doing anything here - CJ is making Neo's Soul Star copy work, what Neo wants to do with it is his call, he's the crazy jagfiend that spent all his pennies on it

[ggn]

sh3-rg, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:20 PM, said:

Tyrant, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:54 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong here though, but Reboot aren't trying to make a lot of money out of this.

Woop woop!

Reboot aren't doing anything here - CJ is making Neo's Soul Star copy work, what Neo wants to do with it is his call, he's the crazy jagfiend that spent all his pennies on it

Besides, Reboot is working with Neo on a project that is very serious!!!!!!!

[CyranoJ]

sh3-rg, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:20 PM, said:

Tyrant, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:54 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong here though, but Reboot aren't trying to make a lot of money out of this.

Woop woop!

Reboot aren't doing anything here - CJ is making Neo's Soul Star copy work, what Neo wants to do with it is his call, he's the crazy jagfiend that spent all his pennies on it

Exactly. I'm just fixing it because thats what I enjoy doing. If Neo wants to deal with all the whiney lady-drama-boys thats his call. I don't care if it goes into a cycle of permanent bit-rott. All this double standards stuff gives me the shits.

[ovalbugmann]

CyranoJ, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:19 PM, said:

deal with all the whiney lady-drama-boys thats his call.  All this double standards stuff gives me the shits.

I agree. Most definitely man! LOL!

Well said! Haha!

[Pocket]

Incredible news, keep up the good work guys !

[wozencl]

CyranoJ, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:19 PM, said:

sh3-rg, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:20 PM, said:

Tyrant, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:54 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong here though, but Reboot aren't trying to make a lot of money out of this.

Woop woop!

Reboot aren't doing anything here - CJ is making Neo's Soul Star copy work, what Neo wants to do with it is his call, he's the crazy jagfiend that spent all his pennies on it

Exactly. I'm just fixing it because thats what I enjoy doing. If Neo wants to deal with all the whiney lady-drama-boys thats his call. I don't care if it goes into a cycle of permanent bit-rott. All this double standards stuff gives me the shits.

Hold on, we may be whiney and lady-drama-boys but we're not... wait what was the other part?

I hope this all works out in whatever form. Team Jaguar's release of TTA AND now Soul Star - it's as if every nostalgic Jag fan's dreams are coming true.  

[Gaztee]

wozencl, on Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:42 PM, said:

CyranoJ, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:19 PM, said:

sh3-rg, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:20 PM, said:

Tyrant, on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:54 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong here though, but Reboot aren't trying to make a lot of money out of this.

Woop woop!

Reboot aren't doing anything here - CJ is making Neo's Soul Star copy work, what Neo wants to do with it is his call, he's the crazy jagfiend that spent all his pennies on it

Exactly. I'm just fixing it because thats what I enjoy doing. If Neo wants to deal with all the whiney lady-drama-boys thats his call. I don't care if it goes into a cycle of permanent bit-rott. All this double standards stuff gives me the shits.

Hold on, we may be whiney and lady-drama-boys but we're not... wait what was the other part?

I hope this all works out in whatever form. Team Jaguar's release of TTA AND now Soul Star - it's as if every nostalgic Jag fan's dreams are coming true.  

Now did you actually play the TT build??   You can't compare that to a complete copy of Soulstar, whether or not it gets released!! TT was nice to see, but a complete copy of soulstar - that's AWESOME.. for Neo!