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#1 Plastron OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:06 AM

Attached File  Disks_1_to_5.zip   233KB   224 downloadsOK here are 5 disks i found which have all kinds of Mac and Basic files on them have a play.

Disk 1 have music on it they are all in Turbo basic not yet coded for games. "GAMEMUS.BAS" was done by me and is used in COUNTDOWN the game.
Disk 2 is stuff from Heartache / Heartbreak
Disk 3 Just work stuff for Metro Cross demo
Disk 4 no idea
Disk 5 Has a bin file of Metro Cross demo which can be run via DOS load command

Metro Cross was an ST game by US Gold and i knock up this demo in about 5 hours. It was sent to US GOLD and I got the green light to do the game but they did not give me a contract so i did not do any more. It would not have been much use to copy a game and then try to get paid if they did not offer enough i would have been stuck with the game and no one else could publish it.

You may guess the work was not wasted look at Plastron

Hope you find these disk images of use.

Will try to run the Mac files on my machine and see what is there.

There are some basic charactor set editors on the disk and screenmaker too

Andy

Edited by Plastron, Sat May 20, 2006 7:16 AM.


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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:08 AM

OK how do i add files to a post ??????

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:29 AM

Use the "More options button below the reply box.

Theres limitations on filetypes you can upload, it's best to just put them into ZIP files.

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:41 AM

trying to attach files


and failing :(

Edited by Plastron, Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:44 AM.


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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:53 AM

Use the "browse" tool then "Add this attachment".

Once that is done, you have to use the "Add into Post" button .

Then be careful not to disturb the [ attachmentid = nnnn ] text.

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:59 AM

Attached File  Desktop.zip   233KB   258 downloads


OK it was that i was using .rar and it did not like that so lets see if this works

Enjoy

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:03 AM

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Above is the ST Metrocross and below is the screen shot from the demo i made of how it could look on the 8-bit. It would have used software sprites for the moving items on the floor

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Edited by Plastron, Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:12 PM.


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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:30 AM

Now I see where you got your inspiration... When was the Metro-Cross demo done? We'll gladly add this to our site :)

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:40 AM

Now I see where you got your inspiration... When was the Metro-Cross demo done? We'll gladly add this to our site :)

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Will this was done sometime in 1988 to 1989 it is very basic as i remember there was only about 5 hour of work in knocking up this demo. I did the graphics and the programming over a couple of evenings as you can see Richard had not done any of his magic on them yet so things were not as good as they would have been had it gone on to become a full game.

The source is also there on the disk images as well as the binary file.

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:10 AM

cool stuff... appreciated that you publish all the stuff to the public! irons up... (and no...you brits will not win world cup this time... ;) )

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:11 AM

and i am still wondering how the hell somebody can write music in basic... without any editor or composer...

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:17 AM

ah...disk 2 contains well knew tunes by richard... as turbo basic files... cool stuff again...let me see what else we can find there...

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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:18 AM

Richard was a very skilled guy with music. The tune for Plastron as i remember it was very slow in basic and did not sound good at all. Quite how he knew what it would be like when it was running full speed is still beoynd me today but just listen to it and you will not believe this was in basic and to slow to hear.

I am not sure what happened to Richard but i wish i had 10% of the skill he had with Music and Art but you will see from Metro Cross that i did not hehehehe

Edited by Plastron, Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:34 AM.


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Posted Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:37 AM

cool stuff... appreciated that you publish all the stuff to the public! irons up... (and no...you brits will not win world cup this time... ;) )



There is more chance of me taking up Metro Cross and truning it in to a game than England winning the world cup !!!!!

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Posted Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:20 AM

Plastron/Andy.... how about getting Albert (Al) to host the game on his w/s (demo only...initially for free) and then change peeps a couple of quid to download the full game (when you've finished, properly coding it)

England winning the world cup... youv'e got to be bloody Joking haven't you, i've probably got a better chance of winning the national lottery 3 times on the spin then england have of lifting the WC trophy

Just one thing about the actual game plastron, plastron/andy... why is it that the same level is repeated over and over again (ATR version), i got bored after playing the same level after the 10th or 11 time (i did have some help from a nifty pc util called artmoney)

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Posted Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:52 AM

Plastron/Andy.... how about getting Albert (Al) to host the game on his w/s (demo only...initially for free) and then change peeps a couple of quid to download the full game (when you've finished, properly coding it)

England winning the world cup... youv'e got to be bloody Joking haven't you, i've probably got a better chance of winning the national lottery 3 times on the spin then england have of lifting the WC trophy

Just one thing about the actual game plastron, plastron/andy... why is it that the same level is repeated over and over again (ATR version), i got bored after playing the same level after the 10th or 11 time (i did have some help from a nifty pc util called artmoney)



This demo was written in around 1988 and i have not written now for the Atari for a long time. The source of the Demo is there and also the source for Plastron is out there which has some routines that could be used to help make this into a game. Anyone who wants to take on the challenge can feel free to do so.

In Plastron the first 3 floors have the same floor plan with a changes of Character set to make them look different. So in effect screens 4 7 10 (and so on) are new layouts each one getting harder to complete more stuff to slow you down etc.

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Posted Fri May 19, 2006 10:18 AM

Did anyone play around with the music from these disks and find anythinbg interesting out?

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Posted Sat May 20, 2006 3:41 AM

Attached File  Desktop.zip   233KB   258 downloads

OK it was that i was using .rar and it did not like that so lets see if this works

Enjoy


Is this stuff to download? I will check this out. Obviously everybody else is sleeping ;)

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Posted Sat May 20, 2006 7:18 AM

Attached File  Desktop.zip   233KB   258 downloads

OK it was that i was using .rar and it did not like that so lets see if this works

Enjoy


Is this stuff to download? I will check this out. Obviously everybody else is sleeping ;)



Yes i messed up a bit could not work out how to post the files so i have just added the files to the first post too changed name as well to disk 1 to 5

There is some nice stuff on the disks to show you how Richrad Munns did his music.

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Posted Sat May 20, 2006 1:26 PM

Thank you, Plastron, for stuff given to public. Sure, I checked the source code, music is well done, indeed. And the best thing, it's in pure BASIC and Turbo BASIC. With Turbo BASIC XL Metro Cross, could be completed, as TBXL is very fast, no need for machine language.

Does anybody has plans to finish Metro Cross?

I will add these sources to my library if it is ok Plastron.

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Posted Sat May 20, 2006 1:51 PM

Thank you, Plastron, for stuff given to public. Sure, I checked the source code, music is well done, indeed. And the best thing, it's in pure BASIC and Turbo BASIC. With Turbo BASIC XL Metro Cross, could be completed, as TBXL is very fast, no need for machine language.

Does anybody has plans to finish Metro Cross?

I will add these sources to my library if it is ok Plastron.



Please feel free to added them any thing i can find i will make public it may be interesting to people to see how it was done all that time ago before the tools that are there today.

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Posted Sat May 20, 2006 9:41 PM

Did anyone play around with the music from these disks and find anythinbg interesting out?


I'll check this stuff out tomorrow. Thanks for releasing it.

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Posted Sun May 21, 2006 3:11 AM

Please feel free to added them any thing i can find i will make public it may be interesting to people to see how it was done all that time ago before the tools that are there today.

Yes, it was very hard to compose in a READ - DATA manner with all those notes wrote down as opposed to now when we can use many tools to do same work very quickly. I found in your source simple 16-bit channel sound generation, very nice.

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Posted Sun May 21, 2006 8:37 AM

As I see there are Atari BASIC listings on disks, for example on disk 1, with Turbo BASIC XL enabled (AUTORUN.SYS). Nice touch, I use the same system, for improved speed. Most listings do not have notes about authorship in REM statements. I will retrieve all these disks for my source code library, but I don't know who created them, you or R. Munns.

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Posted Sun May 21, 2006 8:45 AM

As I see there are Atari BASIC listings on disks, for example on disk 1, with Turbo BASIC XL enabled (AUTORUN.SYS). Nice touch, I use the same system, for improved speed. Most listings do not have notes about authorship in REM statements. I will retrieve all these disks for my source code library, but I don't know who created them, you or R. Munns.



LOL it was so long ago. The CHR set editors and PMG editors were as i remeber taken from Antic or Analog with some changes to make them suit our needs. Not sure what other basic stuff was on there i have not checked them all. All the music was by Richard execpt Count Down which i did after playing around with one of Richards players.




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