vdub_bobby Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) Based on the fairly positive results of the interest-gauging poll, I'm going to go forward with this and draft some rules/guidelines. I'll also keep the game list here. Here's how it is going to work, for now: 1. Each week of the HSC will begin Friday Monday Tuesday morning. 2. We will play one game at a time, for one week. 3. For a score to count it must be achieved during that game's week in the HSC. 4. To join the club, just post a score! 5. Each week we will vote on the following week's game. Here's how that will work: - from the games list we will vote on the top 5 games - the winner of the voting will be the next week's HSC game - the non-winning game at the beginning of the list will be moved to the bottom of the list along with the winning game - so, the following week we will vote again on five games, three of which will be carryovers from the previous week - this gives every game at least five weeks to be voted in before being moved to the bottom of the list - feel free to continue to suggest games, they will be added to the bottom of the list as they are suggested 6. At the end of the week, points will be assigned: - 1st place: 10 points - 2nd place: 8 points - 3rd place: 6 points - 4th place: 4 points - 5th place: 2 points - everyone else who participated: 1 point 7. Quoting (freely) from Ze_ro now... # PLEASE DON'T CHEAT! There are no actual prizes to be won, so this whole thing is just for fun. Please don't ruin it for everyone else. # PLEASE DON'T ABUSE BUGS IN THE GAMES! Many NES games have loopholes that allow you to easily get huge amounts of points without much work (An example of such "Point Scumming": ?? Maybe turtle trapping in SMB). Not only do these result in somewhat bogus high scores, but it ruins the fun and challenge of the game in the process. I'll try to point out "forbidden" tactics as I become aware of them, but if you happen to stumble across one that I was not aware of, please let me know! (NOTE: If a bug is proven to exist partway through the week, existing scores may be removed if it can be proven that they have exploited the bug even if it was not intentional. If you have triggered the bug accidentally, I would urge to you voluntarily remove your score and post a new one.) Answers to questions: Q: Can the games be played on emulators, or only on actual hardware? A: While I would encourage that you play it on actual hardware, emulator play will be allowed. However, please don't cheat by using slow motion, save states, or any other special features of the emulator that aren't available on the actual hardware. Also, please stay away from "questionable" emulation, such as any plug-n-play joysticks. These games may not be emulated properly (or not emulated at all!), which leads to slightly different gameplay and different scoring. Also, you have to play the actual NES version for your score... scores from (for example) the 5200 or ColecoVision port will not count. However, if these options are easier for you, then it may be worthwhile to practice with these games before taking a real run on an actual system or emulator. NEX and other NES "clones" are allowed unless there are significant compatibility issues with whichever game is being played. We'll play this one by ear. Q: Do we need to post pictures to prove our scores? A: No. This is not a requirement. We will assume you are being honest about your scores and leave it at that. If people feel that someone is lying about their score, we will deal with it then. If you want to post a picture that you think is funny or impressive, then go right ahead, but it's not required. Q: Do I have to be a member to contribute? A: Not at all! If you want to join in on the cameraderie, feel free to do so. If you just want to express your like or dislike for the game, or contribute tips without bothering with high scores, then go right ahead! Q: Oh... someone already has such a huge score that I'll never even come close to it. What's the point? A: Try not to think about it like that. The main purpose here is to challenge yourself to new heights, and try to excel at a game in your own right. Instead of playing solely so you can try to get the highest score, try to play for the fun of it, and enjoy yourself. Ignore everyone else's scores, and focus on trying to better your own score. Who knows? You might find out that you're better at the game than you originally thought, and end up getting 1st place after all! You'll certainly never know if you don't try! Q: I got the highest score! What do I win? A: Well... nothing really. This isn't really about winning anything, but more about challenging yourself to new heights, and getting you interested in games that you might never have given much thought to before. Q: I rolled the score! What happens now? A: Congratulations! Unfortunately, this leads to a bit of a problem in the way all this works. You see, the power of the NES is rather limited, which means that the games can only get so fast. Since the speed of the game is limited, this often means that the difficulty of the game is limited as well. Once someone gets good enough at the games highest difficulty level, it's entirely possible for them to play (for all intensive purposes) forever! On a number of weeks, we've run into the problem that a number of people were good enough to do this. The problem then is how to decide who gets the #1 place. I don't want to force people to play a game for 10 hours straight just so that they can roll the score that one extra time to get a few extra points. I want people to enjoy the game, not to get sick of it. So, in the case that multiple people are skilled enough to roll the score, then their scores will just be listed as the maximum it can go before rolling, and everyone who does so will just be tied for first place. The person with the highest score who didn't roll the score will be considered as 2nd place and so on. If appropriate, this rule may be waived for certain games (for example, games that roll at 10,000 rather than 1,000,000). However, even though you won't get any extra points for obscenely huge scores, I highly encourage you to record the game and send it to the people at Twin Galaxies! I'm sure they'd love to see it! The games: Games Sky Shark Star Force Balloon Fight Top Gun Over Horizon Trog Zombie Nation 3D World Runner Marble Madness Sky Kid Ms. Pac-Man (Tengen) Twin Eagle Athena M.U.L.E. Battletoads & Double Dragon Renegade Donkey Kong 3 Flying Warriors (Flying Dragon 2?) G.I. Joe Seicross Duck Hunt Target Renegade RoadBlasters Legendary Wings Pinball Commando Dr. Mario Track & Field Mega Man Star Soldier Mission Cobra Gun Nac Super Robin Hood (in Quattro Adventure) Kirby's Adventure Ice Climber Snake, Rattle n Roll Guerilla War Kid Niki Adventure Island The simpsons Bart vs. space mutants Thundercade Terra Cresta BreakThru Slalom S.C.A.T. Robocop Archon Mighty Bomb Jack Bomberman Lunar Pool Cobra Command Silkworm MagMax Ninja Kid Joust Twin Cobra Batman Donkey Kong Jr. Ninja Gaiden III Low G Man Mechanized Attack Isolated Warrior Shatterhand 8 Eyes Defender II Mappy Gyruss Fantasy Zone Dropzone Mappy Land Heavy Barrell 1942 Dragon Spirit Section-Z Stinger Image Fight The Karate Kid Alpha Mission 1943 Gunsmoke Arkanoid Pinbot Elevator Action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 Excite Bike Castlevania Kung Fu Tetris (Nintendo) Battletoads Rush 'n Attack Galaga Life Force Bubble Bobble Gauntlet II Trojan Burgertime Golf Gradius Castlevania III Wizards & Warriors Contra Super C Ninja Gaiden Double Dragon Super Mario Bros. 3 Double Dragon II A Nightmare On Elm Street Operation Wolf Mario Bros. P.O.W. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Donkey Kong Super Mario Bros. Boulder Dash Jackal Bomberman 2 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 Ikari Warriors Kid Icarus Snow Bros. Ghosts 'n' Goblins Pinball Quest Zanac The Legend of Kage Pac-Man Karnov The Hunt For Red October Vindicators Duck Tales Burai Fighter Popeye Tiger Heli Qix Paperboy Bad Dudes Tetris (Tengen) Ghosts 'n' Goblins Rolling Thunder Guardian Legend TGL mode Abadox Othello Lode Runner Gumshoe Ninja Gaiden II Rad Racer Spelunker Spy Hunter R.C. Pro-Am Note: I've decided to keep the played-games separate for now. I'll reintegrate them at some point when I figure out a good way to do that. Edited January 29, 2008 by vdub_bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaxda Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 R.C. Pro-Am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atarifever Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Mappy! That is, if anyone has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHufnagel Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I would have to say Duck Hunt. Nearly everyone has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Vindicators!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjchamp3 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Gunsmoke nes 999,990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted August 28, 2006 Author Share Posted August 28, 2006 Gunsmoke nes 999,990 Thanks for reading the thread... On the other hand, great nomination! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewing92 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 What about Gumshoe? That is a fun game, oh and that one game that you use the zapper but it is military, uhh, uhh, oh yeah it is called Operation Wolf. 1.Gumshoe 2.Operation Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) Gun Nac Zanac Double Dragon II Ninja Gaiden Ninja Gaiden II Gradius Life Force Dragon Spirit Star Soldier Burgertime Elevator Action Castlevania Contra Super C Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. 3 Slalom Pac-Man Ms. Pac-Man (Tengen) Rolling Thunder Sky Kid Guardian Legend TGL mode Track & Field Kung Fu Edited August 29, 2006 by BrianC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Ah, forgot about rolling thunder, gun-nac and zanac. I recommend those too Although for Gun-Nac, I recommend using Hard instead of normal. Normal is too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128bytes Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 What will the rules be regarding emulators (PC or handheld) for the NES High Score Club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) What will the rules be regarding emulators (PC or handheld) for the NES High Score Club? Please let PocketNES legal It looks like its based off of FCE Ultra by the way how it plays. That is what is seperating me from good scores from atari 2600 to NES for this case: I can play them on my GBA as oppose not being able to for the 2600. NES is going to be quite difficult though as because of save states... but then again Atari does as well. I'm just saying, because this is a different generation (Everyone remembers the NES around here in Texas but not the 2600, for example), a bit more cheaters might crawl out of the woodworks, so watch out for that. Edited August 29, 2006 by keilbaca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) I figure the rules should be similar to the 2600 HSC rules: -Emulators are OK, but no save states, slow down, or other emulator tricks allowed. I.e., if you can't do it on a stock NES it isn't OK. -Scores have to be achieved during the week (or two-week) period. -Screenshots showing your score strongly desired but not required. Hmmm...maybe I'll just quote from Ze_ro's post explaining the 2600 HSC: # PLEASE DON'T CHEAT! There are no actual prizes to be won, so this whole thing is just for fun. Please don't ruin it for everyone else.# PLEASE DON'T ABUSE BUGS IN THE GAMES! Many Atari games have loopholes that allow you to easily get huge amounts of points without much work (An example of such "Point Scumming": in Asteroids, you can eliminate all but one small asteroid, and then "hunt" UFO's without the level ending), or finish the game while skipping a lot of the actual content (For example, using the X-Ray cheat in Superman to prevent the bridge from exploding). Not only do these result in somewhat bogus high scores, but it ruins the fun and challenge of the game in the process. I'll try to point out "forbidden" tactics as I become aware of them, but if you happen to stumble across one that I was not aware of, please let me know! (NOTE: If a bug is proven to exist partway through the week, existing scores may be removed if it can be proven that they have exploited the bug even if it was not intentional. If you have triggered the bug accidentally, I would urge to you voluntarily remove your score and post a new one.) I would view "turtle trapping" in SMB as disallowed "point scumming," for example. Though I'll listen to arguments to the contrary. Q: Can the games be played on emulators, or only on actual hardware?A: While I would encourage that you play it on actual hardware, emulator play will be allowed. However, please don't cheat by using slow motion, save states, or any other special features of the emulator that aren't available on the actual hardware. Also, please stay away from "questionable" emulation, such as the 10-in-1 joysticks with Atari games, the Atari Flashback, or the Intellivision collection CD's and similar commercial products. Usually these games are not emulated properly (or not emulated at all!), which leads to slightly different gameplay and different scoring. I would add that the NEX and various NES clones are probably OK unless there are compatibility issues with the game of the week. And, similarly, you join the HSC by posting a score in the appropriate thread. I'll keep track of scores from week to week, using a scoring system similar to this: 1st place: 15 points 2nd: 11 3rd: 10 4th: 9 5th: 8 6th: 7 7th: 6 8th: 5 9th: 4 10th: 3 And everyone who participates but doesn't place will get 1 pt. Edited August 29, 2006 by vdub_bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHufnagel Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Since emulation is allowed, I'm in! I only just bought a NES and currently only have 22 games. So I'll emulate the games I don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewing92 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I need to buy a new 72-Pin Connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Keep the nominations coming, I think tomorrow I'll take the nominations we have so far, order them, and set up a poll for the first five so we can vote on the first game, with the club officially beginning competition this Friday or maybe next Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdement Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Rush 'n Attack Ikari Warriors Top Gun Golf Kid Icarus Double Dragon Kung Fu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgler Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I nominate Pinbot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 (edited) 1943 Trojan Batman Bubble Bobble Castlevania III Gauntlet II Super Robin Hood (in Quattro Adventure) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 Edited August 30, 2006 by BrianC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Keep the nominations coming, I think tomorrow I'll take the nominations we have so far, order them, and set up a poll for the first five so we can vote on the first game, with the club officially beginning competition this Friday or maybe next Monday. Awesome, sounds great. That'll be perfect, gives me some time to play in between playing for the HSC for the 2600, and work time like on Saturday. *makes sure to make 4AA charger for Saturday for the Micro* I also nominate Kirby's Adventure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjchamp3 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Gunsmok 999,990 I had trouble uploading it. But as you can see I have been verif in the past by TG as a maxed-out score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgler Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 What about autofire? Legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 What about autofire? Legal? I dunno. Have to be the honor system, obviously - thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 People have been known to use the Starplex controller on the HSC, and that has autofire... I dunno, your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjchamp3 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 A nightmare on elm street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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