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#4133515 Star Raiders release date

Posted by hunmanik on Yesterday, 3:54 PM

According to the report by Ted Nelson on page 34 in the June 1980 issue of Creative Computing, an Atari computer running Star Raiders was shown by Ludwig Braun at an "education-and-computers" conference in September 1979.  I have been seeking corroboration of that event, or to even identify what conference that would have been, for years.  Who can help?

#4128909 1050 Field Service Manual - 51 page version

Posted by hunmanik on Sun Oct 7, 2018 10:49 AM

Here are the pages that are missing from AtariMania's incomplete pdf of the official 1050 FSM, FD100330 Rev. 03, October 1985.


2nd attachment is the cover (in color), plus the inside front cover (also missing).


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#4107454 DOS 3f

Posted by hunmanik on Thu Sep 6, 2018 8:05 PM

I hope this doesn't just muddy things further, but could this be the "DOS 3" Harry Stewart was contributing to in 1981, which I think was also not the DOS 3 that was released?




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#4056095 How many variants of 600XL without (!) sockets you know?

Posted by hunmanik on Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:24 PM



Would you be willing to post a pic of the underside label, where the serial number is? 


There may also be an assembly date stamped there (I hope).


I think your unit was probably made in Taiwan, looking forward to finding out.  (Most 600XLs were made in Hong Kong.)

#4028927 Applied Engineering made Atari RAM expansion daughter cards?

Posted by hunmanik on Wed May 16, 2018 5:19 PM

In the various Applied Engineering catalogs from the time period that I'm finding online, they were always proudly stating that they only designed products for Apple.  So this does seem like an interesting mystery. 

#3977425 Looking for commercial BBS info

Posted by hunmanik on Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:14 AM

I've done some of this in the FAQ (now section 8.16).  I've tried to cover both commercial and non-commercial.


Another place to know about: http://www.bbsdocume...ATARI/EIGHTBIT/ 


Plenty of room for more complete information!

#3919234 Software compatible with the CX77 Touch Tablet

Posted by hunmanik on Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:47 AM


Good hint (even "dye" is already mentioned) but "Xirius Defect XXL" is missing.


Added, thanks!

#3895459 XEGS game missile command in ST mouse mode?

Posted by hunmanik on Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:56 PM

On my 130XE my brown cart Missile Command in trackball mode works perfectly with both my STM1 mouse and my CX80 trackball in trackball mode.




#3845176 Turbo DOS ver 2.5

Posted by hunmanik on Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:56 PM

I guess he mixed it with Turbo-DOS XL/XE by Reitershan which you can find on the webpage...


I agree.


Here are pics I saved from somewhere else, that show what I think is a 1990, version 4.0, cartridge based version of the Turbo DOS 2.5 from 1989 in the first post of this thread.

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#3828610 Turbo DOS ver 2.5

Posted by hunmanik on Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:05 AM

Goes with the Top Drive 1050 upgrade from Poland, I believe?


Looking forward to a more expert response!

#3824351 KERI and MUFFY?

Posted by hunmanik on Wed Aug 9, 2017 1:54 PM

I noticed at https://archive.org/...stad_Atari_8bit there's a second, similar memo from August 10, 1984.  I thought it should be posted here next to the August 3 memo.



    August 10, 1984
TO  : Phil Suen
RE  : XL Project Status Report
    Microdisk Drive - After a meeting with John Honig, George
 Nishura defined the pin/interface specification.  It
 is a DIN connector with 14 pins.
    MUFFY - Dave Sovey designed the MUFFY simulator and Michael
 Wooding is building it.  In the event that Wooding is
 assigned to another project, Songly Mu will be able to
 bring it to completion.  Peter Atesian has indentified
 a vendor that will commit to a schedule of Sept. 20;
 however, a purchase order will need to be issued.  Randy Hoopai
 is entering the MUFFY schematic into the MENTOR system.
    KERI - Peter Atesian informed me that ASG is developing a test
 program for KERI.  However, the Note from the previous
 status report is still a primary concern.
    SCHEDULE - enclosed with this status report.
    FUNCTIONAL SPECIFICATION - The 1450 specs is on the VAX; and
 it can be modify for the XL product.  Randy Hoopai will
 be generating the XL specs.
    MANUAL - Phil Suen will determine whether under the new guideline,
 the project is responsible for the manual.
    SCHEMATIC - Sonly Mu is continuing the drafting of the schematic.
 It is still waiting on the MUFFY pinout specification that will
 be finalized on Aug. 15.  Randy Hoopai and Gary Rubio will
 help to enter the schematic onto the MENTOR system.
    PARTS LIST - this will be generated when the schematic is finished.
    BOX & PACKING MATERIALS - same as the manual
    DISK FIRMWARE - Mike Barall finished writing the 8049 firmware.
 It cannot be tested until the 6502 disk handler is written.
    OS - It was decided to put a FMS (DOS routines) in ROM.  Mike
 Barall is commited to having a working OS by Oct. 31 and
 Tom Brightman will continue to keeping the Data General
 as the development tool.  "Working" OS is defined as one
 that can be demostrated to the customers.
    TEST SOFTWARE(S) - John Hinman is designing a complete test
 program for MUFFY.
 The initial pacing item is the availability of MUFFY.  Once
 MUFFY is available, then the pacing item will be the system
        KERI and MUFFY will have to have test programs and equipment
 to qualify them during production.  Currently, Peter Atesian
 said that we do not have the equipment of testing a 68 pins

#3772675 Did you get Adventure the month it was released?

Posted by hunmanik on Tue May 30, 2017 12:17 PM

Next early newspaper ad appearance for Adventure: Chicago Heights Star Herald Ad Visor July 10, 1980




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#3772529 Did you get Adventure the month it was released?

Posted by hunmanik on Tue May 30, 2017 8:41 AM

Here is the earliest appearance of Adventure I've found in newspaper ads.



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#3771840 Did you get Adventure the month it was released?

Posted by hunmanik on Mon May 29, 2017 9:01 AM

I have freshly revisited the issue, this time primarily using analysis of dozens of newspaper ads. 


This is hard work, keeping in mind that "release dates" could be gradual events spread out over multiple weeks.  And advertisements may or may not list items before their actual availability.


Atari widely announced in January 1980 (see coverage and Atari ad in Merchandising magazine, and media kit at Atarimania) that they planned to release 6 new VCS titles, one title per month, over the first half of 1980: Space Invaders, 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe, Night Driver, Golf, Circus Atari, Adventure


It's clear to me now that they did not stick with that plan.


Space Invaders was certainly first, released winter 1980.  It appeared in ads starting in February.


3-D Tic-Tac-Toe, Night Driver, Golf, and Circus Atari were all still promised soon in late June.  I now believe they all came out at about the same time in summer 1980.


Adventure was, interestingly, less prominent in newspaper ads than any of the above titles.  It does turn up in ads starting in early May (alongside Space Invaders).


My conclusion now is that Adventure came out in spring 1980, shortly after Space Invaders but largely overlooked because Space Invaders commanded all the market attention in the first half of the year.


One may speculate that Atari may have delayed releasing 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe, Night Driver, Golf, and Circus Atari as a result of diverting resources to satisfy demand for Space Invaders.  If true, perhaps early production of Adventure would have been limited for the same reason.

#3759398 Unusual 7800 system box

Posted by hunmanik on Wed May 10, 2017 9:03 AM

I was going to say it would make sense as the UK box, but reading the small print about the "Atari Advantage" and "great value ... great games", both slogans used in the US, that makes me think it could be a late version of the NTSC box, despite the PAL console pictured.


Your second picture tangentially shows that another side of the box has what looks like a UPC symbol, along with more fine print.  There might be a copyright date in that fine print.  If we had a good picture of that side, maybe that would settle it.


Thanks for sharing!