ricky29

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Why not? I got slapped in the face when I was a kid--the last time was when I was about 10 years old--and guess what? I turned out perfectly fine. Granted, it wasn't a regular occurrence--it didn't happen every time I was bad. I could probably count on both hands how many times it happened. The key to it is that you don't slap them hard enough to really hurt them--ie bloody their nose, black their eyes, etc. That would be wrong. The way to do it is to slap them just hard enough to get their attention, so that they know you mean business. It's the same way with spanking. You don't hit the child hard enough to seriously hurt them, ie beating, just hard enough that they know you mean business. Come to think of it, I deserved a whole lot more corporal punishment than I actually got. What is out of line is when a parent fails to control and/or punish their kids and complete strangers in public are forced to to deal with the consequences, like I was earlier. I guess it's just a case of our cultures being different. Lying isn't seen as a really big thing over here or at least where I live, and slapping a kid in the face for doing so seems way too much. Something like stealing from your mums purse, or getting into serious trouble with the police are seen as big things and would be punishable, like being grounded, or having things taken away for a certain period of time. But hitting your kids is still seen as a big no no. Look at it this way, though: My mom explained to me why lying was such a bad thing. She said that if you told a lie to someone, that meant you didn't respect them. She said it meant that you thought they were stupid enough to believe your lie. What she didn't say was that by telling someone a lie, you were also disrespecting them because you didn't think they were worthy of having the truth. I think that's reading way too much into it. The reason someone lies is because they just don't want the other person to know the truth, that's all there is to it. But then, why would you bother telling a lie to someone unless you thought they'd believe it? I was talking about telling a lie when you know there's a decent chance the other person would believe it. In any case, if you're telling a lie to someone, you don't respect them enough to give them the truth.

Why not? I got slapped in the face when I was a kid--the last time was when I was about 10 years old--and guess what? I turned out perfectly fine. Granted, it wasn't a regular occurrence--it didn't happen every time I was bad. I could probably count on both hands how many times it happened. The key to it is that you don't slap them hard enough to really hurt them--ie bloody their nose, black their eyes, etc. That would be wrong. The way to do it is to slap them just hard enough to get their attention, so that they know you mean business. It's the same way with spanking. You don't hit the child hard enough to seriously hurt them, ie beating, just hard enough that they know you mean business. Come to think of it, I deserved a whole lot more corporal punishment than I actually got. What is out of line is when a parent fails to control and/or punish their kids and complete strangers in public are forced to to deal with the consequences, like I was earlier. I guess it's just a case of our cultures being different. Lying isn't seen as a really big thing over here or at least where I live, and slapping a kid in the face for doing so seems way too much. Something like stealing from your mums purse, or getting into serious trouble with the police are seen as big things and would be punishable, like being grounded, or having things taken away for a certain period of time. But hitting your kids is still seen as a big no no. Look at it this way, though: My mom explained to me why lying was such a bad thing. She said that if you told a lie to someone, that meant you didn't respect them. She said it meant that you thought they were stupid enough to believe your lie. What she didn't say was that by telling someone a lie, you were also disrespecting them because you didn't think they were worthy of having the truth. I think that's reading way too much into it. The reason someone lies is because they just don't want the other person to know the truth, that's all there is to it. But then, why would you bother telling a lie to someone unless you thought they'd believe it?

Why not? I got slapped in the face when I was a kid--the last time was when I was about 10 years old--and guess what? I turned out perfectly fine. Granted, it wasn't a regular occurrence--it didn't happen every time I was bad. I could probably count on both hands how many times it happened. The key to it is that you don't slap them hard enough to really hurt them--ie bloody their nose, black their eyes, etc. That would be wrong. The way to do it is to slap them just hard enough to get their attention, so that they know you mean business. It's the same way with spanking. You don't hit the child hard enough to seriously hurt them, ie beating, just hard enough that they know you mean business. Come to think of it, I deserved a whole lot more corporal punishment than I actually got. What is out of line is when a parent fails to control and/or punish their kids and complete strangers in public are forced to to deal with the consequences, like I was earlier. I guess it's just a case of our cultures being different. Lying isn't seen as a really big thing over here or at least where I live, and slapping a kid in the face for doing so seems way too much. Something like stealing from your mums purse, or getting into serious trouble with the police are seen as big things and would be punishable, like being grounded, or having things taken away for a certain period of time. But hitting your kids is still seen as a big no no. Look at it this way, though: My mom explained to me why lying was such a bad thing. She said that if you told a lie to someone, that meant you didn't respect them. She said it meant that you thought they were stupid enough to believe your lie. What she didn't say was that by telling someone a lie, you were also disrespecting them because you didn't think they were worthy of having the truth.

Well, some parents just honestly didn't know. Take my dad, for example: The only kind of discipline he ever received from his dad was of the abusive kind. My grandpa was the kind of dad that got mad at his seven-year-old son--my dad's older brother--because he didn't know what a socket wrench looked like and so handed him the wrong one and so Grandpa took a hammer and hit him upside the head with it and knocked him out cold. But guess what? That kind of discipline was the only kind my grandpa had ever known from his dad. So, you see, they honestly didn't know that there was any other kind that would work. Abuse like that is a cycle. It's ending in my generation, with me. Did my dad come out alright? Yeah, I'd say so, but he did got through some unnecessary crap. Dad and Grandpa have both mellowed out as the years have gone by and I think that Dad, at least, has learned that there is a difference between discipline and a flat-out beatdown and that the beatdown is not necessary.

Exactly. My point exactly. I and countless other people I know went through corporal punishment, not abuse, and we turned out perfectly fine. There is a fine line between corporal punishment and abuse, but it's not hard to figure out where to draw the line. As you said, making bruises, drawing blood, breaking bones, etc., that is abuse. Slapping someone's face just hard enough to get their attention is not abuse. It'll hack 'em off, guaranteed, but that does not constitute abuse. Doing like my dad has done before, where he lost his temper at us and knocked one of us to the ground and started kicking us or grabbed one of us by the hair and slung us around--now that, I would say, qualifies as abuse simply because it is excessive and unnecessary, but it's not really physical abuse so much as it is emotional abuse. It does nothing but breed resentment when it becomes excessive like that. So that's why you, the parent, don't let it get excessive. You don't let your kid keep doing something that is wrong or that is annoying you and then let them keep doing it and keep doing it and keep doing it until it has you so annoyed, aggravated, angry, etc., that you lash out at them in anger as a way of punishing them. No, because that's when punishment has a tendency to turn into abuse--because you're angry--and therein was my dad's problem. What he should've done was to nip in the bud whatever it was that was wrong or that was annoying him and dole out the punishment, if necessary, right then. That way, he wouldn't be angry when he was dealing with the offender and the offense, and the punishment would not become excessive and the punishment would definitely fit the crime. Pardon me, I don't normally ramble like that, putting my thoughts down as they come to me. Normally, I'm much more coherent in my writing than that. But forgive me, it is nearly 6 am.

My mom was just concerned that we would break whatever said merchandise was and the rule in most stores was, "You break it, you pay for it." Just as it should've been, too. Plus, it kinda went along with the rule that we weren't to mess with things that didn't belong to us unless we had permission. Another good rule of thumb that most parents today seem to have omitted. It's still a rule I abide by today. It taught me to respect other people's property and to expect them to respect mine.

Why not? I got slapped in the face when I was a kid--the last time was when I was about 10 years old--and guess what? I turned out perfectly fine. Granted, it wasn't a regular occurrence--it didn't happen every time I was bad. I could probably count on both hands how many times it happened. The key to it is that you don't slap them hard enough to really hurt them--ie bloody their nose, black their eyes, etc. That would be wrong. The way to do it is to slap them just hard enough to get their attention, so that they know you mean business. It's the same way with spanking. You don't hit the child hard enough to seriously hurt them, ie beating, just hard enough that they know you mean business. Come to think of it, I deserved a whole lot more corporal punishment than I actually got. What is out of line is when a parent fails to control and/or punish their kids and complete strangers in public are forced to to deal with the consequences, like I was earlier.

Although not good for you, In-N-Out are supposed to be the least evil (nutritionally speaking) of the fast food chains. I don't eat meat, but their french fries are killer. I just find it really odd...I'm not very old or anything, but TVs were not allowed in our rooms as kids/teenagers, and our parents exerted control over what was in their house. When we'd bring up that bullshit "It's mine, not yours," my dad would say, "Funny, it's on my lot." Yeah, that's a lot like what my parents used to say! LOL! And it's true! They'd say, "Uh, you can tell me how things are going to be in this house when YOU start making the house payments and YOU start paying all the bills around here!" And they were 100% right, too! Or like when my sister had borrowed the power cord to my radio when she lost the one to hers. I didn't mind because I didn't use that radio too often. But I did have to go into her room one too many times to tell her to turn that crap down so that other people could sleep. The last time I had to do that, I marched into her room and she started to tell me that I couldn't tell her what to do because it was her radio, not mine. So I just yanked the cord and said, "But this is MY cord!" and walked out. She didn't blast that crap again.

Yes he is right but throwing my shit out wouldn't do anything. I just have no interest at all in most of my classes. I'm learning nothing new in History. The books in English bore the hell out of me. And research papers are a pain in the ass. If you think history class and reading the literature books for English class are boring and that research papers are a pain in the ass...try being stuck in a dead-end job and see how THAT suits you! I guarantee you, you'll be begging for the history class, the literature books and the research papers.