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I'm not that familiar with cartridge based units, am fully aware of their existence and importance to the Atari name. Have there been any back burner thoughts on Motorola based computer products, in the spirit of what once was? Those too support many legacy games, with an actual programmer base I'd think would be chomping at the bit for opportunity to provide commerical quality products on capable computer or cartridge based computers. Just a thought.

Did you ever open up the boxes? Been waiting on that.

Oh, they are definitely to be bought in 6 packs I'd sold all my ST/e/TT before and just after moving to Oregon. Only Falcons left. These are the cats meow for the ST resolutions. Not sure if you remember, I'd posted a hack to get the generic Chinese RGB 2 HDMI to work on the Jag. On top of that,the Falcon also had a quirk where when connected, the box shorted the Falcon video. Forget the pin now, I'd have to look back. But think the ST and Falcon probably have the same pin outs in respect to RGB mode, and whatever that was (pretty sure it was DC) if bleeding across the cable, could be causing it. Or I could be full of it 😆

Just caught up on the thread. Vertical lines with Atari video, yes. Think what I'm seeing (eyes are older than Darklord's) is they "seem" worse at lower resolutions, but think it's the changing of dot pitch, kind of like blowing up an image to the point where quality degrades is what it resembles. Text was fuzzier in mono, I thought, at least TOS fonts. I wouldn't want to write a book though in any ST interlaced mode Maybe playing with NVDI and installed system fonts could make it more gooder. What I found odd was most everyone is saying the vertical "lines" are most noticable on dark/black background. To me they really stood out on the "normal" Atari green, and were virtually unseen when loading Ease desktop, with black background and desk pic. Didn't see that anyone else tested a different desktop. Ease is heavy, but the icons, boxes and such are too notch. Might also be something true about buffering the video output, or playing with resistor values. Forget what I'd done, but the display revealed some ghosting on a white background, making me think it's not an RGB color space thing, seems a signal issue. Had to look close, but it caught my eye. And I'd have to go back and look, but don't recall seeing the vertical jail bars during boot, before GEM loads. The member that had the monitor hooked up to test equipment maybe could chime back in with any new test data. I don't have any games on the HDD (rocks flying), did run several demos, they all displayed nicely in RGB mode. Honestly, demos, and a few games are mainly why I jumped on this for RGB use. The vertical lines are present in VGA mode too, again Ease cleaned things up. This was checked under standard Falcon modes, unless a demo used a custom setting (the aforementioned test equipment could verified). It's also Afterburner equipped, runs the bus as 23MHz, 040 CPU and fast RAM at 46MHz. TOS ROM is edited to keep the Blitter at 1/2 CPU clock (11.5MHz). With the Afterburner, have a NOVA adapter and ATI MACH 64 with 4mb VRAM ISA card. First thing I'd noticed was most the resolution configurations for the previous monitor didn't work. Think it was an early 17" NEC Multisync LCD (like a bunch of others, took 6 or 7 monitors back to the thrift store after buying these ) Looking the data sheet for the SE2722H it has a pretty wide band with, but using the video mode generator to enter preset display modes really didn't work for other than 640*480/800*600 24bit. So I'm not sure if it's just fussy, or the video mode generator is showing it's age (mid 90's soft). Unfortunately, NVDI can only configure ET4000 cards. So not sure what the magic is there. Just have to spend the time hitting each resolution's sweet spot. On the ATI, std VGA at 24bit is rock solid. Looks better than the (bought 2) display output on the ASUS quad-core income tax machine I'm really impressed with it, know it didn't sound like it, but at $118, I'm going to buy 2 more, one for the toy hauler, and one for the wife's laptop when "docked". Still think there's a lot left on the table experimenting with the video signal signal. But it will never be a 1224

Thank you for all the time That is a huge effort. Just now starting to do a hand delineation of the Falcon COMBEL to PGA socket adapter, to connections, and Sparrow COMBEL PGA socket to connections. I'm staring at hours and hours of work

Finally had a few minutes at 3am last night to try the SE2722 on an older (pre-consumer) Falcon. (More at the bottom on this). I'd purchased 2 as the old Dell on the PC started acting up. First impression on the PC was it's average. The older Dell was "only" 24", 27" is nicer (and much lighter). FF a month to last night. Didn't even start off in VGA modes, went right to RGB to test. Just wow. Honestly, it was difficult to distinguish between modes (VGA vs RGB). Owned a lot of "compatible" LCD-LED used monitors in the past, the SE2722 blows them away. With only 4mb RAM and a bad DSP SRAM on this board, was limited testing. Used the APEX viewers for Targa files as well as ImageCopy for viewing. In 640*400 TC, forgot was even in RGB mode, and started playing with the dither setting in ImageCopy. Even in interlace mode, ImageCopy presents a stable image, only noticable outside the image borders. Tested all stock Falcon video modes (sans ST High), no stability or odd syncing noticed. Think I've read in some of the above post about vertical lines on the display. These were evident in both VGA and RGB. It's annoying, but not a deal breaker. Back when Nemesis was first released, Titan (Dave, Doug and crew) were supplying all sorts of tricks and tips. One of these was to clip out the resistors on the video output and replace them with induction wire pieces. This Falcon came without the video load resistors. Been years, my Afterburner Falcon had the resistors removed at some point, and notice now (long forgotten) I'd resoldered them back in place. I'll move that motherboard back to the bench and retest the monitor there. Again, have to reread the thread if someone posted a solution for the vertical lines. Can't wait to try the Sparrow on this as well. While it's "supposed" to have compatible ST video modes, came across one setting where the NEC Multisync couldn't display the mode, and another (forgotten) monitor could. So there's an odd ball frequency there one may think (if having a Sparrow) there is no video output. It does, but if coming across the configuration, give another monitor a try as all the Sparrow video modes do work. Images displayed in 640*400 TC mode using ImageCopy. Dell SE display

I'd tried Microcenter on my phone, it spit and sparked for some reason. Googled the monitor and came up with the Office Depot site.

Oh, from Office Depot out of San Jose.

Back from the dead Finally jumped on 2 of the SE2722's. $319 delivery next day. The early 2000 Dell 24" I'd been using on the PC went on the blink, and the really old (forgot what brand, it's burried during a computer room remodel) monitor that worked in RGB mode on the Falcon wasn't best video quality. Being 66, 800x600 on a 24" was really getting difficult. These should shine with the SuperVidel as well as the occasional RGB demo's on the Falcon. Thank you all for the testing

How are you with SMT MACH CPLD? (ex, Afterburner040).

Umm, Sparrow....:)

Sometimes the file will need to be byte swapped before burning. When you load it into programming environment, TOS 4.04 first word should be 602e. If it reads 2e60 or else, you need to do a swap. I have CGYWIN on a PC, and use dd. I can send a 55ns Amtel with 4.04 when I send the COMBEL.

Pretty sure all C-Lab did was to reutilize stock. They fiddled with hand picked DAC's, noticed those replaced on 4 different C-Labs I've owned/own. Interesting with the MKX, if indeed they stripped Falcons out of the Atari branded cases, or just sourced a quantity of motherboards. If the first, they should of been an excess of standard Atari cases you'd think. Here's a odd one for you?

Apologies, even though a small community, big internal foot print The CT60 (68060 accelerator card for the Falcon) comes with a small set of soft tools. One is a patch tool to update xcontrol.acc for 68060 compatibility. Over time, Atari had updated the file. Roger Burroughs (ExtenDOS) mentions an issue in EmuTOS where his solution is to use a later version of it. That's just an example for using a later version. Short answer I guess, find an online archive containing the disk that came with each machine. XCONTROL contained on the Falcon disk is the last version from Atari. Don't know the specifics of what is patched using the patch program included with the CT60, may not be necessary in your instance. Just pointing out there are a few versions of it, it's known to cause issues in some cases. I know, I talk too much

For xcontrol.acc, use the version included with the CT60 package. Its been patched. Mikro's GitHub page has the file and description. Don't think it relates to NetUSB.