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That's funny! I also thought about making some kind of Pong with powerups with bB not too long ago.

 

Your ideas sound interesting, looking forward to see how it will turn out!

Btw., are you planning to finish Ooze! and release it on cart one day?

You can use up to 4 paddles with bB. Use the variable "currentpaddle" to set the paddle to read during the next frame. For 2 paddles, it works well. 4 paddles might be a little jerky (though I haven't tried it.)

That's funny! I also thought about making some kind of Pong with powerups with bB not too long ago.

 

Your ideas sound interesting, looking forward to see how it will turn out!

Btw., are you planning to finish Ooze! and release it on cart one day?

 

I want to actually. Somebody, maybe it was you offered to cart it up. Maybe that's the right way to go.

 

Trouble with Ooze! is it's a tangled mess of code and flags. Each time I think, let's polish it up, I look at it and just kind of stall. Back when it was finished for the compo, I could have tweaked it a few places and it would have been good to go. People were wanting AtariVox and extras added too. So I stalled, and now with bB more capable, it's almost a rewrite.

 

That game could use a paddle too though! I don't know what to do frankly. Maybe it can be released as "Batari Basic Classics: OOZE!", or something. Simple text label, batari version, source and development log as a package. Maybe a tweak or two to fix the levels better than they are on the last solid version.

 

If anything else, maybe I can get a vanity cart, or a few made for those that liked it as it is, with perhaps just some cleanup. ?!?!

 

 

-->After posting on that thread, the Pong idea just stayed with me. Those are usually the best ideas too. I could see having some fun with somebody on that kind of game, and from the comment below Batari says the paddles are working just fine. I'm gonna press forward with that for sure, this time making sure I head down the road where a cart makes sense. Anyway, I know I liked OOZE!, and that helped to build it. I'll like the Battle Pong game and it's been a while since I had a game idea I was into. Plus, it's PONG! Everybody loves a PONG game. (well, I think a lot of people do)

That's funny! I also thought about making some kind of Pong with powerups with bB not too long ago.

 

Your ideas sound interesting, looking forward to see how it will turn out!

Btw., are you planning to finish Ooze! and release it on cart one day?

 

I want to actually. Somebody, maybe it was you offered to cart it up. Maybe that's the right way to go.

 

Trouble with Ooze! is it's a tangled mess of code and flags. Each time I think, let's polish it up, I look at it and just kind of stall. Back when it was finished for the compo, I could have tweaked it a few places and it would have been good to go. People were wanting AtariVox and extras added too. So I stalled, and now with bB more capable, it's almost a rewrite.

 

That game could use a paddle too though! I don't know what to do frankly. Maybe it can be released as "Batari Basic Classics: OOZE!", or something. Simple text label, batari version, source and development log as a package. Maybe a tweak or two to fix the levels better than they are on the last solid version.

 

If anything else, maybe I can get a vanity cart, or a few made for those that liked it as it is, with perhaps just some cleanup. ?!?!

Nope, i didn't offer to make carts as i neither have the knowledge nor the hardware to make carts.

 

I really like Ooze!, simple but fun to play game. IMO it would just need a few more tweaks before it could be released on cart. Maybe a few different power ups or adding the ball sprite as an "enemy" ??

I understand that rewriting it for bB 1.0 will be a lot of work but i think it would be worth it.

 

I also think a multicart with a few 4k bB games like Ooze! would be a nice idea.

 

Yeah i know, talk is cheap...

I found who made the cart offer.

 

Seriously, what would you do to the game? I might go down this road. Depends on what I find when I get it all loaded up. If it builds, then I've a shot at some polish.

 

 

 

 

That's funny! I also thought about making some kind of Pong with powerups with bB not too long ago.

 

Your ideas sound interesting, looking forward to see how it will turn out!

Btw., are you planning to finish Ooze! and release it on cart one day?

 

I want to actually. Somebody, maybe it was you offered to cart it up. Maybe that's the right way to go.

 

Trouble with Ooze! is it's a tangled mess of code and flags. Each time I think, let's polish it up, I look at it and just kind of stall. Back when it was finished for the compo, I could have tweaked it a few places and it would have been good to go. People were wanting AtariVox and extras added too. So I stalled, and now with bB more capable, it's almost a rewrite.

 

That game could use a paddle too though! I don't know what to do frankly. Maybe it can be released as "Batari Basic Classics: OOZE!", or something. Simple text label, batari version, source and development log as a package. Maybe a tweak or two to fix the levels better than they are on the last solid version.

 

If anything else, maybe I can get a vanity cart, or a few made for those that liked it as it is, with perhaps just some cleanup. ?!?!

Nope, i didn't offer to make carts as i neither have the knowledge nor the hardware to make carts.

 

I really like Ooze!, simple but fun to play game. IMO it would just need a few more tweaks before it could be released on cart. Maybe a few different power ups or adding the ball sprite as an "enemy" ??

I understand that rewriting it for bB 1.0 will be a lot of work but i think it would be worth it.

 

I also think a multicart with a few 4k bB games like Ooze! would be a nice idea.

 

Yeah i know, talk is cheap...

4 paddles might be a little jerky (though I haven't tried it.)

paddles are very jerky when they're read 1 out of 4 frames; however, that can be worked around as I discovered in Warlords.

Nice!

 

Thanks for the tip. Not sure if I'll need it for two paddles. Might though! Nice to know some work has been done along those lines.

Smoothing won't be needed if just 2 paddles are read. Paddles in Medieval Mayhem are read every other frame (2 paddles per frame) and I didn't motion smooth the results.

Smoothing won't be needed if just 2 paddles are read. Paddles in Medieval Mayhem are read every other frame (2 paddles per frame) and I didn't motion smooth the results.

 

Makes sense.

 

People seem to be able to deal with about 25Hz, plus where input latency is concerned. Anything below that is jerky and totally hammers our ability to be precise. I first experienced this when working with X Window servers. The IRIX box I ran every day had a 60Hz hardware mouse. Rock solid. The SUN box next to it had a 15 to 20Hz mouse pointer. Not sure if it was hardware or not, but it just sucked. Move, wait, frame, frame, frame as the mouse moved back and forth over the target with me over correcting a few times. End result was not being able to just go and zip, click! It was more like zip, wait to see, fine tune, then click. Or get a bit drunk, then it didn't seem to matter much!!

 

Thanks for linking that anyway. It's a good reference to paddle stuff.

I found who made the cart offer.

 

Seriously, what would you do to the game? I might go down this road. Depends on what I find when I get it all loaded up. If it builds, then I've a shot at some polish.

Is the MGC-Version the latest available? I'll play through some versions and let you know what comes to my mind.

I think that is the latest. You can also find binaries in my blog.