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A club for those interested in Atari classic BBSing, 8-bit or ST/TT/Falcon, running or calling, how-to's as well as general discussion.

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  2. In December 1984, Gardner Computing Company released the 835 & 1030 BBS Program. The BBS software retailed at $74.95 + $2.50 shipping. An auto-answer/ring-detector module was included with the BBS since the supported modems did not provide auto-answer functionality (source: ROM Magazine v1i9 page 37). The software was later sold by a company called Duplicating Technologies, Inc. (DT). See the DT ad on page 44 of Antic Magazine Volume 4 Number 10 (February 1986).
  3. Quill, a new BBS software written in Action!, is announced at TARICON '84 in Detroit, Michigan (source: ROM Magazine v1i8 page 6).
  4. Ouch. I get the strange feeling, since it isn’t widely know, that price fell faster than a lead balloon.
  5. I can't believe anyone would buy it back then. According to the linked ad above, it was $74.95 in 1984 dollars! That's $185.97 in 2020 dollars!
  6. Come to think of it I think I had an official copy of it. As I remember an official looking disk label. I think it was given to me by one of the local sysops.
  7. I think it was just a 1030 Modem conversion of AMIS. (Which explains the crashing issues. Lol).
  8. That's cool. I never saw it running before. I wonder what it was like. Yeah, most BBSs before BBS Express! would regularly crash. That was par for the course until original BBS Express! was released. Carina I was especially problematic in that sometimes the BBS would crash and leave the user in a BASIC prompt. I know a SysOp who had his hard drive formatted by a user after the user was dropped in a BASIC prompt (the user admitted doing it years later). I think Carina II is more stable now, but unfortunately, it lost potential market dominance with Carina I's instability. -JP
  9. I know I had a copy of Gardner bbs. But I think when I was testing it, it was always crashing. I probably had a very early version, but that was what was most frustrating about the bbs programs written in basic. Crash crash crash.
  10. Tillek

    ATASCII Screens

    ATASCII Screenshots from back in the day......
  11. See also the Last Day to Preorder BBS Express! Pro!
  12. April 18, 1988 was the last day to preorder the BBS Express Pro! BBS Software. It was also originally scheduled for release on this day. However, its ended up getting released in May 1988. Below is a copy of the Preorder announcement and order form: BBS Express! Professional V1.0 (c) 1988 Orion Micro Systems Midlothian, Virginia 23113 >> Express! PRO Preorder Announcement << ---------------------------------- Preorders are now being accepted for BBS Express! Professional. Current release target date is April 18th,1988. All preorders will receive first priority when shipping begins. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ System Requirements: o Atari 800XL or 130XE o Sparta Dos 3.2 or greater o Hard Drive Recommended or min: large ramdisk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Retail Price: $49.95 plus $4.00 ship/handling Upgrade Price: $29.95 Plus $4.00 ship/handling plus one of the following: [1] A Xerox copy of the original 850 or 1030 disk label bearing your registered serial number. [2] Your original 850 or 1030 Express! master disk. [ NOTE: Only one upgrade per Serial Number] Upgrade Orders received without meeting one of these upgrade requirements will be returned. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Additional Preorder Bonus: Preorders received prior to the April 18th release date may also purchase a copy of HardBack, our Hard Disk/MIO Backup Utility for $10.00. HardBack normally retails for $39.95. Orders received after the April 18th release date can purchase HardBack for $20.00 if ordered at the same time as BBS Express! PRO. [This Offer Expires April 18,1988] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send All Preorders To: Orion Micro Systems ATTN: PRO PREORDER 2211 Planters Row Drive Midlothian,Virgina 23113 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You may freely capture this notice and place it on your board and/or upload it to other BBS Systems if you wish. Orion Micro Systems ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here's a handy order form for you to print and use with your preorder. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Preorder Form | | | | ATTN: Orion Micro Systems | | ATTN: PRO PREORDER | | 2211 Planters Row Dr. | | Midlothian,Virginia 23113 | | | | Qty Description Price | | --- ------------------ ------- | | ___ BBS Express! PRO with HardBack........................$ 59.95 | | | | ___ BBS Express! PRO Only.................................$ 49.95 | | | | ___ BBS Express! PRO Upgrade with HardBack................$ 39.95 | | | | ___ BBS Express! PRO Upgrade Only.........................$ 29.95 | | | | Sub-Total : $ ______ | | | | Add Shipping/Handling $ 4.00 | | | | Total : $ ______ | | | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Complete this section for upgrade price. | | I Have Enclosed: | | ___ My Master Disk SN __________ or ___ Xerox Copy Of Master Disk | | | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Rush My Order When Released To: | | Name: ________________________________________________________ | | | | Addr: ________________________________________________________ | | | | City: __________________________ State: _____ Zipcode: ______ | | | | Country: ___________ | | | | [ P l e a s e P r i n t ] | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Office Use Only: Date Recv: ____/____/____ Recv By:_______ | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
  13. X, if you need some support, I have a repository of Atari links to content, bunch of docs, etc.. Glad to help with content or pages if needed. I started building some of this as well under www.southernamis.com its the last section to be completed but with so much content, trying to find a very creative way of indexing and housing the materials is still in design as links disconnect as we know.. I have tested a simple menu app in the site for a few downloads. Works ok but a JIRA type structured approach with files, descriptions and ability to comment on the topic is what I have been contemplating. But yet, very compact. And just as a side note- http://atarionline.pl/v01/index.php?ct=nowinki&ucat=1&subaction=showfull&id=1594542582 Poland Atari Community is highly active - The link above is another example for large volume content
  14. I will buy a domain today and get a rough site up this weekend. There are too many things coming out of the woodwork not to keep track of them in a central location along with a quick little feedback method for people to submit anything they’ve heard of (moderated of course)... thanks for the help and the support guys.. i hope I find a suitable Fuji logo to use as my backdrop for the text panel ...
  15. Here's another interesting graph found at textfiles.com - FidoNet Nodes side by side with BBS Listings quantified..What do you think of the accuracy?
  16. See also the August 1st calendar entry for more BBS statistics.
  17. That's a very cool graph! You can find some more BBS stats at the following link: https://atariage.com/forums/calendar/event/89-the-number-of-bbss-multiply-in-1979/ Like the above graph, the link refers to 1994 as the peak year for BBSs in the U.S.A. -JP
  18. In August, 1986 there were over 2,000 Bulletin Board Systems in the United States (Source: August 1986, Volume 5 Number 10, issue of Antic magazine; page 15).
  19. Check out the link to ROM #8 above...there's a big Atari BBS list there too. -JP
  20. Some serious investigative reporting. I found a list of BBS’ and platforms at texfiles.com if you haven’t seen the BBS list, stats and the historical retention of data all in one place - make this site a priority
  21. I've seen that web page before, but I must have missed the 835/1030 BBS program by Gardner Computing Company/Duplicating Technologies (DT). Maybe that page was updated recently? While looking up the 835/1030 BBS ad, I came across another BBS program called "Quill". Have you heard of it? It apparently came out in 1984 and was supposedly written in Action! A one line mention is in issue #8 of ROM Magazine (page 6): https://archive.org/details/ROM_Magazine_v1i8/page/n5/mode/2up?q=BBS You can see an ad for the 835/1030 BBS at the following links: Rom Magazine #9 December 1984/January 1985 (page 36; an ad from Gardner Computing Company) https://archive.org/details/ROM_Magazine_v1i9/page/n35/mode/2up?q=Bulletin Antic Magazine Volume 4 Number 10 February 1986 (page 44; an ad from Duplicating Technolgies) https://archive.org/details/1986-02-anticmagazine/page/n43/mode/2up?q=Bulletin I don't know anything about the 835/1030 BBS either. -JP
  22. There's also a growing interest in BBSing by young people (those in their 20s and 30s) recently. This has pleasantly surprised me. It also gives me hope that this hobby will be around for many years to come. -JP
  23. Thanks JP. It was a flurry of memories while documenting the time. Appreciate the opportunity to share experiences and learnings from the days. Glad this forum is available for people who even know what we are talking about.. Your spot on about the current state of our hobby/passion. It's emerging and growing which is a testament to the platforms and the positive experiences. Im all in on building and growing the platform and making time to contribute more each day.
  24. A few more titles in this text file that I’ve not heard of before. http://www.atarimania.com/faq-atari-400-800-xl-xe-what-programs-can-i-use-to-host-a-bbs-on-the-atari_105.html I suppose one more domain couldn’t hurt... I think I will throw up a web site dedicated to Atari BBS Software and keep a list of all “possibly known” atari bbs software there as well as a method by which to contact me in case someone has something listed as “not owned”..... Will get yall a link once I have it up.....
  25. Great story Rob! I can tell you're working hard to make your BBS your own. Creating and maintaining a BBS is a lot of work. It may not have seem like that when we were running them as teenagers. But then again, we had less responsibilities and more time on our hand as teenagers. That's one thing I hope others who are thinkng about putting up a BBS understand. It's a lot of work. However, the more you put into the hobby, the more you'll get out of it. That includes customizing the BBS, maintaining it, posting messages, uploading files, and regularly participating on other BBSs. Back in the 80s and 90s, a SysOp could just put up a BBS and sit back and watch the users pour in, post messages, upload files, play games, etc. That's not the case anymore. There's fewer BBS users and I find as a SysOp that I need to engage my users more if I want them to continue to call. That means starting new topics in the message bases and looking for interesting files and games to provide on the BBS. It's more work now than in the 80s and 90s, but it is a labor of love. That's why I'm still running a BBS today. -JP
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