pocketmego

I don't see ONLIVE going belly up any time soon. They just released the cloud desktop on the iPad and soon for androidl...which along with this google thing is going to be huge. I really think they are set to be a fairly big player in the next gen. But, we shall see.

I know. I hope google appreciates it. :-)

ALT TECH The Looming Cloud-Streaming Game Wars: OnLive Partners with Google TV http://techland.time.com/2012/01/12/the-looming-cloud-streaming-game-wars-onlive-partners-with-google-tv/#ixzz1jIiTXESx Forget “what’s in your wallet,” what’s in your TV? If you’re looking to pick up one of these newfangled Google TV-based televisions, make that OnLive, the cloud-streaming game service that lets you play high-end video games over the Internet without worrying about platforms, downloads, installs, or system specs. The news comes in the wake of LG’s big announcement at CES that it’s partnering with OnLive competitor Gaikai to bring streaming games content — not the full smorgasbord, but an LG-selected number — to its Smart TV lineup later this year. Like OnLive, Gaikai lets you stream high-end PC games providing you have a 3 Mbit/s (5 Mbit/s recommended) connection. You play the games using a USB gamepad that connects directly to the TV.

I would have guessed much harder drugs than that. Maybe, only the Gamestop Corporate honchos get to enjoy the really hard, mind altering, stuff. Actually...that makes the most sense.

First off Tough, that is an awesome profile pic. Secondly, I hoped for better, but I kind of saw this coming. For a the same price you can get a great touch screen phone or Kindle Fire tablet. Add another hundred bucks and you got a nice lower end android tablet. With games like Shadowgun, the games on Tablets are starting to compete. The Vita is going to struggle and along with the 3Ds, will be the last of its kind.

Do game companies have the right to control how we choose to play our games? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8omr-IA-R8 Should we allow them such power?

I got a Samsung Galaxy and universal controller and its a joy. But it does need a consistant and solid wifi signal to work well.

Hard to disagree with that sentiment. This French company is about as responsible for anything that went into the original Battlezone as I do. It sickens me every time they go to court to protect "their" intellectual property.

Here is my channel's review of a truly solid Couch Gaming accessory... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZu1lGqkY-U Highly recommended!

Well I finally got this game. The PC version to be exact, and does ROCK! It has so many classic game elements that I feel like I have been playing it for years. Yet at the same time, the very concept of the game, makes it all very fun and fresh. All in all a very solid and fun game.

Yeah, I love ONLIVE. But, I cannot in good conscience recommend it for anyone with an ISP that has obligatory Bandwidth caps.

The 3DS version is a platformer. The other versions are Gauntlet style hack n slashers with no jumping.

What can I say, I'm a fool in love. ;p I can certainly see some nice benefits to digital downloads. The convenience factor, the lower cost of publishing that makes projects possible that otherwise wouldn't of been (Such as the vast majority of the XBLA library), the lower hardware cost for PC gamers with something such as the OnLive model, etc. I've embraced digital gaming (I've easily spent $500 on it over the past few years, and probably much more if I carefully started adding things up) and it certainly has its place. But that doesn't mean we can't also be cognizant of the many pitfalls it also has, especially in an all digital future like many feel like we're facing. That's basically been why I've been so talkative in this thread. It's a very mixed future we're facing in an all digital future, particularly for the classic gamers of the future. But, see, I never disagreed that the future is a very mixed bag. I am not 100% thrilled where things are going. But, if we must head in that direction, I've gone a head and thrown in my lot early.

What can I say, I'm a fool in love. ;p

Of course I'm assuming that if we go to an all streaming model. Short of a leak from inside the company or hacking your way into their servers, there's going to be no way for us to ever get a game that was only made available for streaming. It's a pretty safe assumption to make if you have some understanding of how something like OnLive actually works. You still seem to be under the mistaken impression that a service like OnLive is distributing more than just a video stream into the homes of gamers. No I'm not. But, I also don't see an all encompassing cloud future. I think the majority will be streaming services. But, there will always be a small amount of downloadable material available for those that want it, If not, the Cloud will provide us with services that have classic games collections and modern games collections and whatever else we want to play. And when games start to get older they will be shunted over to the classic games area or older games area. Much like ONLIVE does for several older games that have been out for a while. They move them over to the playpack and those who have the playpack for 10 dollars a month can play them unlimited as we please. And chances are if we already bought the game, we either got it so cheap or have had it so long, when it moves into the playpack, nobody cares. So even if everything goes Cloud (and I'm OK with that) there will still be older games available. The fear people have with Cloud gaming is that the game will one day vanish from the service. There has been NO indication that this is true and even if it does happen to one or two games here and there, it certainly won't happen to them all. So yes, I know that the games live on ONLINE's servers and I play them long distance from my controller to their server and back with NOTHING happening locally on my hard drive and now downloading on my end. And it will make piracy virtually impossible (which is a selling point actually, because I'd rather play games legally). But, I don't see any of that as negative. Older games will be available, just not gathering dust in people hordes (collections) they will be available to anyone who wants to play them on the cloud. Not that I have anything at all against collectors, I have already said I have a big collection of classic consoles (especially Sega stuff). Many of my friends are collectors. But, at the same time being able to game on ANY supported device I choose and virtually anywhere with the recent phone and tablet apps available, and not having to wory about constantly upgrading a computer to play games on (which I can't do anyway, with a Laptop), not to mention the ridiculously cheap prices I get my games for now, TRUMPS any and all concerns I have for "owning" my games. Which, I still believe is a load of crap in modern and future gaming. Anyone who thinks you own a modern game or game that is likely to come out anytime soon, because you have it on a disk is utterly delusional. Don't believe me...try playing a recent multiplayer game used without an "online Passcode", or any recent Ubisoft PC game without an always connected internet connection. Try to play the same copy of a playstation 3 game on more than 2 PS3s. Those things I mentioned are RAPIDLY becoming the norm and standard of the game industry. Sony just announced that if you want to play the games you BOUGHT on the PSP on your Vita, you'll be paying a fee to re-download them (if you register them ahead of time). Yeah, people sure do own their old PSP games on those shiny UMD disks. But, you say, I'll just keep playing them on my PSP and not worry about it. Yeah, until the no longer in production PSP breaks down. And even if that doesn't bother you, who the hell wants to carry around more than ONE handheld when traveling?\ A future in the cloud might seem unappealing to some people. But, I find a future of this crap even more repulsive.

LOL It's funny you posted this. Technically you would need one figure from each class to get to all the area's in the game.I said the same thing, I would just get one from each class, but like you I wound up liking figures from the same class (Eruptor, Flame Slinger) and just wound up getting them anyways! Most of my figures aren't taken out of the package. You can still use them on the portal in the package. My thought is, if I ever get bored with it enough to sell them off, they will still be considered new and unopened. Probably the best way to go. Those packs with a figure and level probably need to be opened if you want the health potion and time warp thing.

No, but I can download it from any number of ROM or torrent sites, stick it on an SD card, stick that into my Super Everdrive' and stick that in my SNES. And I will continue being able to do so for as long as my hardware lasts. And I will be able to play the game via an emulator for the rest of my life. You missed the point I was attempting to make. I was talking about the Earthbounds of the future. Games that were recieved well by those that played it but which are never rereleased years later due to various circumstances (Although Earthbound was on the GBA in Japan, but let's not quibble). In an OnLive style future, you won't have access to the code to do things like download a ROM from a torrent site to play in your favorite emulator since all you did was send your control inputs via the internet to a remote server with video of gameplay streamed back to you. You're assuming things like Torrents won't be around if we go all Cloud. I just don't see that as practical. One thing you can always count on is Piracy. I also don't see an all encompassing cloud future. There will still be places to download games. I just don't see a future for physical media.

It's no slouch in the game deparment that is for sure. It's a lot of fun i think. Also, If you are interested in going for 100% achievements, there's a few toughies included that'll have you playing this over and over trying to beat it 100%. Cool, thanks for the heads up. I'll definitely have to get a Skylander rep from all the classes. The problem is some of them I really like from the same classes.

My wife is getting it for me for Christmas (she so understands that I really am just a giant child). I was intrigued by the concept from the beginning. It was from Toys for Bob, so I knew it would be good and it really is a logical next step to their old school games like Mail Order Monsters. The tech cinched it though, it fascinates m,e. Then I heard and have seen that the game is REALLY good.

Pshaw, shows what you know. I know EXACTLY how ONLIVE works... I watched this video and it explained everything perfectly... Seriously! You think I don't know how ONLIVE works? I just don't focus on the negative of the service. I am positive that most if not all the games I play on the service will be there for a considerable period of time. Long enough for me to beat them over and over again and after a while, I am really not going to care if they vanish. Plus ONLIVE is so dirt cheap, I've gotten more than my money's worth from all those games already. And in an age where we need a constant internet connection to play some games that are ON discs, How is ONLIVE any worse. There is no guarantee we'll be able to play some games from THIS generation within even 5 year from now. A lot of smart people have made this point really well on this very thread. Just because you own a physical copy of it, doesn't mean you own anything. Not in an age of massive DRM, always on Internet connectivity, and online play codes.

I'd be interested in seeing if the pro-digital people mostly come from a computer and PC background in gaming (like me) and the those against are mostly from a Console background.

I'm not trying to address the points that you raised. I'm just stating how it is, how it's going to be, and why it's going to be that way. We got to buy and sell media for years and years, and the party is almost over. Chris And that scares the hell out of a lot of people who are simply terrified of change. It really is evolution and mindset should be adapt or perish. No. Pro technlology people love this sorta stuff, that's the bottom line. Change isn't always good. Just because it's happening doesn't mean it's right. Except by definition, shouldn't most Video Gamers and Computer Gamers be PRO-Technology?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIpuYfe_3gY&feature=g-u&context=G2a71419FUAAAAAAAHAA

I know that. I was just razzing you, man. I promise. I really am as big as a retro-nerd as anyone else here. So, I really don't want any hard feelings with anyone. Most especially not with people I respect, who stand up for their ideals in a good debate and discussion.

Great post. I agree 100%! The world just died of shock. Dude seriously, its all just good natured debating of ideas. I suggest just taking a moment, maybe settling down with a nice 8 Track or a favorite episode of Life of Riley on Betmax and taking a few minutes to just relax.