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Need I remind you how one of them couldn't stop saying how impressed he was with Froggo's Karate? -Ray

LMAO! Yeah Yeah. -Ray

I don't mean the characters in DD are badly rendered. No, I mean they look like street urchins. Just about no one in that game is wearing shoes and everyone from the hero down the line of villains looks like they are wearing rags. What kind of awful urban nightmare city do they live in? Maybe they should stop fighting and go get jobs or something. Get some kind of financial aid for Abobo, get the big guy a shirt. Poor, miserable, wretches. -Ray

Yeah, I caught that too. Yet they owned a 7800 Game pad. To have such knowledge and miss so many small details...BRRRRR. -Ray

I've created a new poll called proper 8 bit gaming computer poll. Check it out for more and better voting choices. -Ray

Ok, here is a corrected poll for the best 8-Bit gaming computer. -Ray

Ok, here is a corrected poll for the best 8Bit gaming computer. EDIT: Poll didn't show up on this one. Please ignore. -Ray

I enjoy playing Halloween. i think it holds upa lot better in terms of fell and theme than even later horror games do liker the Friday the 13th game on the NES. Halloween feels like the movie. That movie was much newer than TCM though and I have a strange feeling that development for the TCM game went like this... "What do you remember about that movie?" "Well there was a guy with a chainsaw that killed people, he lived in an old farmhouse with bones everywhere, there was a truck. There were girls in it, oh and I know there was a wheelchair in it somewhere" "OK, make a game using all that stuff." "Er, well its been 9 years since I saw the thing, I don't remember much else." "It doesn't matter, no one else will remember either." -Ray

Someone once posted that almost any 2600 game could be considered abstract and to some extent I am starting to agree. I used to think Centipede was an abstract game, until I learned it had a fantasy based story featuring garden Gnomes and magic. Here is a list of what I truly believe are the most abstract of the 2600... Spacemaster X7 Quadrun Q*bert Pac-Man Turmoil Tempest (proto) Q*bert's Qubes Worm War One Spider Fighter Tax Avoiders Reactor Quick Step I consider any game that does not have a setting that is at least partially based on some kind of definable reality to be an abstract game. For instance Burger Time MIGHT be considered abstract by some, but i don't really see it that way. At its core it is technically still set ina fry kitchen. I'm sure there are quite a few more I've overlooked. -Ray

Don't leave us in suspense... what'd she say? Well we set a date for... She laughed and went on her way. I'm not that damn lucky. -Ray

When Atari was big, we kids would sometimes here strange rumors about the existence of X-Rated Atari games and even games based on horror movies. But, no one ever seemed to be able to confirm or deny such things. Usually the story went... "My uncle so and so had this killer game on his Atari, you had to make this cowboy do it with some indian woman..." But, of course later in life I discoverdd these rumors to be disturbingly true. And, thanks to the miracle of modern technology I can actually play some of these MYTHs from my childhood, mostly by way of emulation. Not that I'd actually pay money to play a Mystique game these days on my actual Atari. But, I would by the two horror film games, namely Halloween and Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Even though TCM is not nealry as playable as Halloween. In fact from what I've seen TCM SUCKS. Why in the world would you make the protagonist of a game, the villain, the monster? Doesn't that slightly dimish the scare factor? At least in Halloween when Michael pops out at some unexpected moment, it can be a little scary (kinda). But, there I am controlling a cute little Super Deformed Leatherface with one goal, kill the little pixelated women who let loose the cutest darn screams on the 2600. All the while avoiding obstacles like cow heads and wheelchairs (WTF?!) So you go on this little massacre and kill as many of these little women as you can (turning them into little blobs od pixel mulch) until you run outr of gas. That's how the thing ends, you run out of gas. Again... WTF!?! TCM was released to theaters in 1974. Who was sitting around the Wizard Video office almost 10 years later going..."You know what we really need to do? We need to make the game everyone has been asking for...Texas Chainsaw Massacre!" "uh sir, shouldn't we do something a bit more recent, like Halloween or something?" "Screw it will do them both. But, uh spend more time on Halloween would ya, I'm thinking it will cost more to get that license." Plus, in 1983, they had to know it would be hard to even get these into stores, so why make them at all? Video games can be violent. No, TCM proves Video Games can be stupid. -Ray

Thanks for reminded me guys, as always I really appreciate the help. I sure am glad I found this place. -Ray

I've seen this video a few times now,its great "yal." UTube is where I also got interested in the 5200 and 7800 hardware. I especially like that one series called How to beat video games. Lots of 5200 stuff there. I love those videos though because there is lots of 80's cheese within them. That was one hell of a decade. Those videos are awesome, I am so disapointed that the 7800 came out to late to have a volume of that for it. I'd love to have seen the host (White man's Afro) tell me the secrets to beating Ninja Golf. -Ray

I'm really glad this thread is here. When I first read about the Adam, I was pretty impressed by it. But, now I am reading from you guys some of its more serious problems and I am not nearly as impressed. I do find it fascinating that it used tapes to access any part of the operating system it neeeded at any given time. Pretty impressive little OS for 1984. -Ray

Those are both excellent games. I just sold my extra copy of secret quest to someone that was looking for that one too. The beauty of the secret quest was that the guy had it in with his standard stuff, vs his boxes of "rare" 2600 games. I don't think he had any idea what Secret Quest was. I forgot, I also got my Pitfall 2 in the wild. 2 Copies actually, but one had to be returned because it just was never going to work. -Ray

This is a broadcast of something called Gamebot. Believe it or not, this is where I first discovered the 7800. First they do an overview of the 7800 and then show it playing a 2600 game. Then they do a bit on Karate Kid for the NES, then they show Kareteka for the 7800, and then some laser disc thing. Enjoy... -Ray

Nah, this was a pretty good list. I'd go with this one. As opposed to that awful shooters list from a few threads back. -Ray

What I honestly believe is going to happen in the very near future with modern systems is a massive implosion, not unlike the one from 1984. The roots of it are already starting to sprout. People who bought X-Box 360's, PSPs, and DSs showing a LOT of post purchase unhappiness. Many 3-D shooters are languishing because people are getting sick of the same game over and over again. The PS3 is already being viewed in an almost universally Negative light, starting with the 600 dollar price tag, then the poor E3 showing, and finally an audience full of people who bore witness to the fact that nothing on the thing is any better looking than on the already existing X-Box 360. The sudden upswing in retrogaming is a direct result of the boredom of the average videogamer, who is looking to X-Box Live arcade and plug and play games to find an alternative to what is out there. Twitch gaming is making a HUGE comeback and even though most people are trying to claim it is the unique control scheme of the DS that is making it dominate the market right now, it is actually a flurry of retro-orietned titles that seem to be doing that. The market is in a new kind of glut, people are buying cheaper game sat re-sale as opposed to paying for new games, and its all going to come down like a house of cheap cards. However, unlike 1984, there are several generations of classic game systems to choose from and people who still want to play video games. I think this will actually lead to an EVEN bigger boom in retro gaming, even bigger than what is going on now. I was working the other day and a girl came i. Very attractive, young (19) blond and she saw I was playing arounf on my laptop with my 2600 emulator. She asked what i was playing and when I showed her she said... "Cool, Atari, I have one of those at home too. I love those games more than the new ones. I don't get the new stuff, I have an NES too." I told her if she wasn't from out of town, i'd marry her. TRUE STORY. The end and the begining is near. -Ray

You and me think a LOT a like dude. I sometimes wish someone like Sega would take a chance ona low cost modern version of the Genesis. I bet it would sell pretty well and a lot more people would buy it than they think. Look at all the NES clones that are sellign well these days. -Ray

Translation: You are more interested in a comparison which favors your favorite machine. I don't know how true that is. This discussion has gotten so technical, i'm not even sure what the debate is about anymore. Not all of us are tech heads you know. I judge my gaming machines by how well they fulfill my needs as a gamer. I'll stand right up and say that I like the Spectrum as a machine. I think it has some unique games that only IT plays to the very best of their design. I've even gone so far to say that if you are not playing Manic miner on a Spectrum, you are not really playing Manic Miner. However, I can't take anything away from what has clearly shown itself to be the winner of this poll. The C-64 is a magnificent gaming machine that stayed strong until the 90's 16 bit console era shut it down. But, even then it was still keeping pace with C64 versions of things like Final Fight, Forgotten Worlds, Stryder, etc. I have no experience with Atari machines , other than playing 5200 games which are supposed to be the same stuff that was on the Atari 400 and 800 machines. Unfortunately I played a 7800 before I ever played a 5200 and I am spoiled. However, i know the 5200 version of Mario Bros. is pretty freakin' wretched when compared to either of the C64 versions of the game by Ataria nd Ocean. Just a few random thoughts. -Ray

NICE old movie reference. Real Genius is a bonafide Cult Classic!!! -Ray

Yeah, same here. This is definately an example of a game that was just WAY more complicated than a 2600 game should have been. I think fans of the film would have been just as happy with something more action oriented like Pitfall, Montezuma's Revenge, or Tutekahn. But, HSW just really wanted this over-zealous game and I was no good at it then and i'm no good at it now. When I was a kid I swear once you left the first screen you'd fall to your death every time. -Ray

EC Comic's Jack Davis? Very cool. I always wished we could have seen more classic comic book artists on game art. Davis would have been a good choice to do an updated Haunted House cover. -Ray

I played one today that may or may not be from that era called Robot Fight and it was the most hideous Missile Command Hack, that I've ever come across. Was this phenomena only associated with the 2600? Did Intellivision and Colecovision also have a flood of crap 3rd party titles as well? -Ray

This version has all the levels...but it is no longer for sale: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...312&hl=Gorf That's OK, I don't own a Jag. I'm still kind of hoping someone hacks a 2600 version. -Ray