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  2. Posted

    38 minutes ago, The Historian said:

    I was wrong about the date it's July 24th, 2021. I have a remind in my calendar for July 7th so I can get prepped and that's what I mistakenly posted. 

     

    17 days of prep?

     

    You obviously didn't get that attitude towards deadlines working for Atari. 😀

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  3. Posted · Edited by Matt_B

    5 hours ago, Shawn said:

     

    Atari could fuck up the Lord's Prayer that is why. The device they are gonna be shipping out will surely underwhelm and disappoint (my opinion). Expecting any better from them or speculating on why they do anything they do (or don't do) is a waste of time.

    I can't argue with that.

     

    For what it's worth, I'll take your word for it on the software.

     

    I'm not really expecting any answers on the missing apps, just noting that they are missing.

  4. Posted

    15 minutes ago, Shawn said:

     

    It goes without saying the units are not being held back because they don't have the needed software to use them as you believed. You don't retail package a product before it's completed. Whatever, believe what you want and make up whatever you like to fill in the details you are missing. And yes that was more  fabrication on your part about seeing a system up and running cause I didn't say that either. I don't even know why I would try to engage on this topic. Clearly the facts you found between your ears are much more relevant than anything I could ever add to the conversation. 

    Actually you can retail package a product before its software is ready if you intend to deliver it as an over the air update. Most games consoles have launched in such a state in recent years, even.

     

    Also, let me make it perfectly clear that I have not at any point claimed to know that the software isn't finished or that you've seen a finished unit up and running, so you are very much out of order in calling these 'fabrications.'

     

    For the record:
    1. "I suspect that they've still got issues on the software front" is not a claim that the software isn't ready, merely a supposition.

    2. "You didn't say that you'd seen one up and running yet" is merely a claim that you hadn't said it. You confirmed this, so it's not even wrong!

     

     

     

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  5. Posted

    19 minutes ago, Shawn said:

     

    Maybe you don't. If you have been reading along you would understand that I have been privy to a little more information than the general public like yourself. You are guessing and making shit up as you go, I am not. 

    You've said that the units were complete and in the country.

     

    You didn't say that you'd seen one up and running yet though, so excuse me for conjecturing based on the information available rather than psychically reading your mind.

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  6. Posted

    1 hour ago, Shawn said:

     

    I would think it's something like that, correct. It's not incomplete software as some people are talking out their ass about. Atari are royal fuck ups. Making things up about them and the AtariPOS "unconsole" is a waste of time and effort when the truth about them has a track record of always being plenty bad enough.

    I don't disagree that Atari are royal fuckups. However, this is not made up.

     

    You can watch Jani Penttinen's video and it's quite clear that the only software on the VCS desktop when he launches it is Atari Vault. This is in stark contrast to the videos they showed earlier in the year where there were a bunch of other apps for things like Netflix, Antstream, Disney+, etc. most of which were presumably just mock-ups as there was a disclaimer to that effect.

     

    He's since stated in a YouTube comment that he was under NDA by Atari to only show his own game and deleted all the other apps from the desktop. Can you honestly think of any other reason why Atari would require that from him? I can understand asking him not to show unannounced or unfinished apps, but surely not ones that have already been confirmed and are ready to use. For contrast, it's not like we haven't seen people under NDAs from Microsoft and Sony showing us around the interfaces for their forthcoming consoles for over a month now.


    He also explicitly confirmed that this is one of the earlier dev units and not part of the recent shipment. We still know nothing about those. Sure, they might be sitting in the US with a full OS already installed just waiting for the controller shipment to arrive before being sent on to customers - but their PR people have suddenly become too bashful to show off its features - or there may yet be further shenanigans to come.

     

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  8. Posted

    4 hours ago, Stephen said:

    I have the most amazing idea.  I am going to take this thing that has existed for 10 years (small form PC).  I am gonna put it in a shitty plastic shell.  It will only cost $399.99 (it's under $400 so affordable).  Here's where my totally amazing idea comes into play.  What this device will do, is use other peoples' emulators to: get this shit.  It will actually play classic games!  Now, just because anyone with an IQ > 75 that has had a computer since 1998 has been able to do this easily and for free, does not mean this is a bad idea.

     

    I'll need at least a million dollars to put this idea into play, because the development is gonna be hella though.  If all goes well, I should have something to really show by 2023, but I can come up with renders and brain fart ideas at any time after prodding.

     

    Who wants to go with me on this journey?  We could change the world.

    Shitty plastics aren't enough these days.

     

    You need a special edition with a real shit veneer for $100 extra the very least.

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  12. Posted

    I suspect that they've still got issues on the software front. We've all seen that the dev unit boots up with just the one app - Atari Vault - so what's to assume that they've got any further with the production version? Pretty much all the other videos they've shown so far of anyone doing anything with it were running Windows with extra RAM and storage.

     

    As such, they'll be using every excuse they can to push back the shipping date while they cobble together the remaining apps.

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  13. Posted

    Yeah, it's something to be finally showing off the dev kits that were first mentioned around this time last year!

     

    More generally, every mildly positive announcement is invariably a development that they inferred happened months, if not years, ago so it just serves to illustrate how far reality is lagging behind the hype.

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  15. Posted

    He's posted up a picture of it plugged in and running Atari Vault now.

     

    He's also confirmed that the packaging is not final, so this is presumably one of the units that they said were going out to devs in July.

     

    As such, I suspect there'll be a little longer to wait for the backer units.

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  17. Posted

    On 10/16/2020 at 2:23 AM, mr_me said:

    It's eight core, 1.8 Ghz.  I think that eliminates the 800 and 700 series.  Minus the controllers we're talking about a $100 device.  Should be something in the bang for the buck cost range.  Perhaps 600 series.

    That description is a perfect fit for the aforementioned Snapdragon 460:

     

    https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/qualcomm/snapdragon_400/460

     

    There aren't a lot of current 600 series chips that fit that description but they could be using one that's a few years old.

     

    There are also a few chips designed for embedded applications that fit the description but who'd be insane enough to build a games console around one of those? 😉

     

  19. Posted · Edited by Matt_B

    There's plenty of waggle room in that phrase. They could claim, for instance, to have started shipping by sending out a single unit in October.

     

    Similarly, I'm not sure what the guaranteed delivery by December 24 would entail if they miss it. It's not like you'd be getting a free pizza or anything.

  20. Posted

    On 10/13/2020 at 2:07 AM, Yarzzz said:

    But what snapdragon processor? My phone has one and struggles with youtube video at 720p.

    If they're not saying which, it's probably one of the cheaper ones like the 460.


    Mind you, even that ought to be good enough for the sort of games they're offering. The reasons phones with them feel a bit slow is more down to how bloaty Android has become these days.

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  22. Posted

    5 hours ago, Bill Loguidice said:

    Those are good points, jamm. It's also not always about having a good product either, but also a good product at the right time. Take the Vita, for instance. There was very little wrong with it. It was powerful, compact, attractive, had a great screen, etc., but it just never caught on for a variety of reasons, but arguably most of all because of timing. It was entering a market already saturated with great mobile smartphone and tablet options. The 3DS barely made the cut-off and there's a reason Nintendo is not releasing another dedicated handheld in that vein, and it has little to do with the Switch.

     

    In terms of the VCS, I'm sure it will more or less do what its current modest goal is and that will make some people happy enough, but it's by no means a mass market product. Again, I don't think Atari is expecting it to be. It was a means to a simple end and Atari probably already got out of it most of what they were after (and could reasonably expect).

    The 3DS did a bit more than barely make the cut-off. They sold 75 million of them, mostly of the five models that came after the Vita was launched. Also, the Switch Lite is a dedicated handheld.

     

    The real problem both Sony and Nintendo had was that they were stretched too thin, supporting multiple incompatible platforms in an age where AAA game development has become monumentally expensive, labour intensive and time consuming. If Sony ever make another handheld, it's just going to be one that runs PS5 games so they don't have that issue. Nintendo have already got there.

     

    The VCS won't have that problem because Atari have nothing to stretch. 😀

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  23. Posted

    On 10/5/2020 at 11:34 AM, The Historian said:

    That I can't tell you. I own an Alienware Alpha TO which came with a setup for Kodi with a custom theme to make it more like a console. These were also designed to be SteamOS machines, but they never really gained traction for that.

     

    But there is a contingent of users that don't care about Atari so much as they want a decent gaming device with Linux as the default OS.

    I thought the Alpha was a creditable attempt at a gaming Linux box, although I'm pretty sure that the Windows configurations sold better. Obviously neither of them did well enough though because they discontinued the line without a replacement a couple of years back.

     

    In terms of what you can do with them, they seem a far more capable platform than the VCS. The GPU benchmarks about three times better, for starters, and with the socketed CPU, RAM and 2.5" drive bay there's considerably more upgrade potential. Linux gamers holding out for something better to come along are probably going to pass up the VCS on that basis.

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