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Doing some more comparisons, the Harmony Encore has a USB port, USB support chip, a separate 512k ram chip, and a 1MB eeprom chip. Because of the extra hardware, the prices are higher on the Harmony Encore. In addition, the UNOCART for the 2600 does not support DPC+ or CDF bank switching schemes.
To make the Harmony Encore cheaper in price then those extra chips would need to be removed. But then the product would no longer be a Harmony Encore product since it would have less features.
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Doing some more comparisons, the Harmony Encore has a USB port, USB support chip, a separate 512k ram chip, and a 1MB eeprom chip. Because of the extra hardware, the prices are higher on the Harmony Encore. In addition, the UNOCART for the 2600 does not support DPC+ or CDF bank switching schemes.
To make the Harmony Encore cheaper in price then those extra chips would need to be removed. But then the product would no longer be a Harmony Encore product since it would have less features.
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Well then there's the Bad Apple Demo (512kbytes), which HArmony Encore is technically capable of running if only Batari would update the firmware to support it. I imagine it would take a while to flash though.
You can "force format" a FAT32 partition to XDHC cards (using Linux, Mac, Windows command line, or third party format utilities), up to a 2Tb absolute partition limit. File sizes are still limited to 4Gbytes or less however.
Let's not get carried away now. I doubt we will see "Megabyte and up" sized Atari 2600 games (much less Gigabyte sized) any time soon.
SD cards 16MB to 2GB that use FAT are out of production, however SDHC cards that use FAT32 between 2GB to 32GB are in production for now. There is a possibility that in the years to come SDXC cards between 32GB to 2TB might be the only option in retail stores. SDXC cards are native exFAT and some do not work correctly when trying to format them as FAT32. In the ideal world all SD cartridges on the market should support exFAT so that SDXC cards can be used in the native file format.
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It is also the quality of the firmware and software that makes a difference. If one product has better hardware but poorly written software with bugs, then the slower cartridge would be better. I would need to purchase both to compare the software.
So it sounds like the UnoCart 2600 might coexist with the Harmony Encore unless one goes out of production. I am looking for quality first and price second when selecting a multi-cart.
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The largest current homebrew is 64k, so even 256k are way above what you need. But the Unocart has an even more powerful CPU, which might improve ARM based game development in the future.
You mention that the UnoCart 2600 has a more powerful CPU. If that is true then what CPU is being used in the UnoCart 2600 that makes it better then the Harmony Encore CPU?
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That eBay dealer and I are, umm, the same person. I have updated the auction to reflect the new manual text. Thanks for letting me know.
Indeed, no need to take it apart.
Okay. The UNO-2600 cart also has 512k/1024k of flash RAM that can be programmed by developers. So, I am sure this could be developed, but again, two very good products.
The Harmony Encore has a 1MB EEPROM that can be utilized for paging out game data for up to a 512KB game image. So it looks like the Harmony Encore and UnoCart-2600 have the same flash ram capacity.
Is there any plans to offer a firmware update to the UnoCart 2600 so that 32GB to 2TB SDXC cards can natively be supported using the exFAT file system?
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https://www.thebrewingacademy.com/
Your understanding is incorrect. The 2600-UNO supports .3E files up to 256k in size. There is no limit to the size of the SD card that you can use on the UNO. Although, 1G is probably more than sufficient for most collections.
The Harmony Encore is a very excellent product. I do not see the need to force comparisons between two excellent products which have very different price points.
Again, feel free to ask questions before posting incorrect statements,
1. Yes, updates can be done via the SD card. That is the beauty of it: You do not need any additional hardware or software to update the 2600-UNO.
2. You are correct that, unlike the Harmony Encore, the 2600-UNO cartridge does NOT require a firmware upgrade to play PAL or NTSC ROMs, all you do is change a jumper located via a very easily accessed hole in the cartridge shell.
3. No need to disassemble it at all. It is quite easy to change. In fact, it will even run PAL ROMs on an NTSC monitor (albeit in black and white).
You should enjoy using your Harmony cartridge. I have one as well. Again, why the need to cast aspersions? The UNO-2600 will run just about anything you throw at it, can be updated via the SD card and it just as robust as possible for a multi-cart. It is also $40 (plus shipping), so enjoy both.
As for the Ultimate Cartridge, that is not for the 2600. It never has been. It is for the Atari 800/XL/XE series of computers on have been produced by a number of people. I have been producing it for the creator since 2015. If you have an Atari 8-bit computer, I highly recommend one.
Thanks for the updated information on the official website link. I was getting my information from a UnoCart EBAY dealer that said the following https://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-2600-SD-Card-MultiCart-works-on-2600-7800-plays-most-ROMs/283206485702?hash=item41f06c06c6:m:mAllds0JyCjztYua7dw-uWA:rk:1:pf:0
"The UnoCart -2600 is an Atari cartridge emulator. It supports cartridges with up to 64k of ROM and 32k of RAM."
However you gave me the correct information at 256k in size. However that is half the rom storage space of the Harmony Encore at 512k.
The EBAY dealer also said
"The jumper on the back of the board allows you to select whether the cartridge uses NTSC or PAL/PAL60 for the built-in menu. You can remove the jumper completely if you are using a NTSC TV."
That sounds like one needs to take the cartridge apart on the back of the board. However looking at their updated pictures it looks like the jumper is external and can be accessed on the top of the cartridge shell.
The Harmony Encore firmware is upgradable by SD and USB port. Plus it offers 512k rom bank switching which is twice the storage capacity of the UniCart 2600. However the UnoCart does have the advantage of using a external jumper to change from PAL to NTSC and not needing to change the firmware. Its also a little bit cheaper in price.
I plan on continuing to use my Harmony Encore because of the 512KB of rom capability, USB port, and I heard its currently 100% or 99.9% compatible with all games. However its awesome to see competition in the market that can lead to improvements in products and price.
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I see that there is now a ATARI UnoCart 2600 being offered that is slightly cheaper than the Harmony Encore SD cartridge. However according to the specs the Harmony Encore SD cartridge is a better product. The Harmony Encore SD cartridge has a USB port, can switch between PAL and NTSC with a firmware change (the UnoCart 2600 one needs to manually switch the jumper on the PC board for PAL/NTSC games). The Harmony Encore supports cartridge rom images up to 512KB and with a possible future firmware update would allow for games up to 32GB in size by paging in 512KB at a time from the 32GB SDHC card. However its my understanding that the UnoCART 2600 supports cartridges up to 256KB in size.
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What is the website link to purchase a UnoCart or UltimateCart for the Atari 2600 game system?
I currently own a Harmony Encore SD cartridge for the ATARI 2600. That product appears to be better quality with a built in USB port and the ability to use up to 32GB SDHC cards. The Harmony Encore supports cartridge rom images up to 512KB and with a possible future firmware update would allow for games up to 32GB in size by paging in 512KB at a time from the 32GB SDHC card. However its my understanding that the UnoCART 2600 supports cartridges up to 64KB in size.
With the Harmony Encore SD cartridge one just changes the firmware in the cartridge to switch between PAL and NTSC. It appears that the UnoCart one needs to open the cartridge case and change a jumper on the back of the PC board to switch between PAL and NTSC. Since the UnoCart 2600 has no USB port I am guessing that any firmware updates need to be done by SD card.
Since the specs are better for the Harmony Encore SD cartridge when compared to the UnoCart 2600, I plan on continuing to use the Harmony Encore SD cartridge. What are the specs for the UltimateCart which is suppose to be a better product then the UnoCart? Or is the UltimateCart a product that has no official release planned?
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Hey all,
Due to recent competition and that I have a lot parts sitting around that were already paid for, and people have essentially stopped buying Harmony carts, I think it is time to lower the price and change the pricing structure.
The new price for Harmony will be $39, and the new price for Encore will be $59. For this price you get a bare board and a label. You supply your own cartridge casing and cut the slots in it for USB and the SD card.
If you would like your cart put in a cartridge casing, add $10 to the price.
You may order a printed manual for $1.00, a color manual for $6.00, or a USB cable for $4. You can purchase a SDHC card with some homebrews, Harmony software, drivers as was formerly available in the Deluxe version for $12.
The order pages will reflect this change soon.
This offer is for a limited time only, while supplies last. I have enough to make a few hundred carts, I think. When the supplies are exhausted, that will be time to release the source for Harmony, and I will decide then if I want to make more. Give me some time to change the order page. It is currently down.
It is my understanding that the Harmony Encore SD cartridge and the standard Harmony cartridge are the only in production SD cartridges on the market for the Atari 2600 system. You mention recent competition. Is there some other company that is selling a USB or SD cartridge for the Atari 2600 that is comparable to the Harmony Encore?
I do hope that you decide to continue to manufactory the Harmony Encore SD cartridge, it’s a great product and the best I have seen so far for the Atari 2600 compatible systems. A lot of people are using free 2600 emulators on desktop and portable devices and are no longer using classic 1977+ videogame consoles (Which results in less demand for the Harmony Encore SD cartridge).
The Harmony Encore SD cartridge use to sale for $89.24 shipped ($84.99 + $4.25 S/H). Also for $89.24 one only got the cartridge inside the case and no accessories. With the new $16 price drop, a brand new Harmony Encore SD cartridge in a cartridge case with no accessories sales for $73.25 shipped ($69 + $4.25 for shipping). I like all the new ordering options you are now offering at checkout (color manual, USB cable, SD card, etc).
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The last I heard is the Harmony Encore SD cartridge is the best version on the market for North American consumers. Is there any other USB or SD ATARI 2600 cartridges that are currently on the market besides the Harmony product line? According to this Flashcart and Multicart link the Harmony Encore and standard Harmony are the only SD cartridges that are currently available for the Atari 2600.
That is my understanding as well. It was the successor to the older, legendary "cuttle card" long unavailable.
I have one for sale that I've never used if anyone is interested.
I'd prefer to sell it direct to an Atari Age member and avoid the 10% ebay markup + 3% paypal markup.
If anyone's interested, $67 shipped? PM me please. Matthew
$67 shipped would have been a excellent price since the Harmony Encore SD cartridge use to sale for $89.24 shipped ($84.99 + $4.25 S/H). Also for $89.24 one only got the cartridge and no accessories. However back in October 2018 the Harmony Encore SD cartridge ended up getting a price decrease of $16 ($15.99 after shipping). A brand new Harmony Encore SD cartridge in a cartridge case with no accessories sales for $69 + $4.25 for shipping. This $16 price drop is either a clearance price to move inventory or a new price even if the product is still being manufactured. https://mkt.com/erstwhile-technologies/
However your price of $67 shipped s still $6.25 cheaper when compared to the new $73.25 shipped price. I am guessing that you are selling the Harmony Encore SD model with the cartridge shell in place.
Yea those EBAY fees can be between 10-16% and the PayPal fees can be over 4.25% (depending on what plan one is on).
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I have been using the latest BIOS version 1.06 and Harmony Programming Tool version 1.3 for a few years. However it sounds like people are making unofficial changes to the software and then not changing the version number. It is common practice for programmers to always change the version number of a software program hat has been updated. I guess one needs to go through some type of official channels to get the version number changed when there is improvements in the Harmony Encore software.
The last I heard is the Harmony Encore SD cartridge is the best version on the market for North American consumers. Is there any other USB or SD ATARI 2600 cartridges that are currently on the market besides the Harmony product line? According to this Flashcart and Multicart link the Harmony Encore and standard Harmony are the only SD cartridges that are currently available for the Atari 2600.
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The latest Harmony computer software is hosted on GitHub. *
Versions for Win, Mac, LINUX, UNIX, and source are here:
https://github.com/sa666666/harmonycart/releases
This is fixed and updated by StephenA — same member who maintains Stella (an Atari 2600 emulator).
This is the Personal Computer software program that communicates with the Harmony Cart or Harmony Encore Cart connected with a 4-wire USB Data cable (most are 2-wire Charging cables).
As of this post, December 2018, it is Version 1.03.
(Not to be confused with Harmony BIOS 1.06, eeloader version, or Harmony hardware version 1.09.)
Thank you StephenA for doing this!
*The latest (best) versions of software with bug fixes, added features, etc., are not all in one place for many reasons. The main reason being that the AtariAge community creates “Unofficial” versions, shares them somewhere, and having no formal way to have them incorporated into “Official” versions, they end up in different places.
quote from website
"1.3: (Aug. 13, 2013)"
So the latest version for the Harmony Encore is still version 1.3 which came out a little over 5 years ago.
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One would think converting RGB to HDMI or component would give a much better picture than composite or S-video...
S-Video is better than composite video since Y/C is separated, however one should only use S-Video if their old tube TV does not have component video inputs. In addition, the problem with S-Video on the Genesis is it requires an internal modification for native S-Video. One can purchase a external $200 component video to S-Video converter that well give one the full advantage of S-Video, however one can purchase a new flat panel display for $200 and use the native RGB or component video feature on the Genesis.
If I was going to internally modify the Sega Genesis video output, I would make it native HDMI similar to what NES owners did to their 1985 Nintendo systems. However as far as I am aware know one has developed a HDMI upgrade for the Genesis which would be better then a external scaller since native HDMI would be synced with the CPU and have no delay.
Maybe a hardware developer could develop an external graphics card with a HDMI port that would plug in the side expansion port of the original Genesis system. That’s what the system needs. I would also like to see a ColecoVision expansion module that plugs on the top or the side of the Genesis system. Then existing ColecoVision owners could use their classic game library on a Sega Genesis.
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Some people have old tube TV’s where the composite video input is their best connection. When playing Sega Genesis games (when I actually have the time to do it and not working on a project), I would prefer HDMI, VGA, RGB, or component.
In the future if I have time I well be looking at some of those options for the Sega Genesis. RGB and component video uses advanced cable designs that are harder to construct and that is why consumers pay more for those cables.
I am glad Sega made RGB for the Master System and Genesis system. With my Coleco ADAM I am only limited to composite video unless one does a internal modification.
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High-end video/audio cable options for the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis system one
Both the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis system one have a high quality RF modulator when compared to some earlier 80’s systems. However, RF output is the lowest quality video and audio connection. Composite video and audio is better than RF. The best video output for the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis system one is the game systems native RGB output or component video output. HDMI output would require internal modification to the original Sega game consoles.
For people that do not have a RGB monitor, and have no component video input on their display, then the composite video output is the best choice.
Cables Online makes high-end video and audio cables for videogame systems (their first system they supported was the Coleco ADAM computer, then later on many other systems). The Cables Online ADG-300 and ADG-506 is for both the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis system one. Both of these cables use high grade professional oxygen free cables, Gold plated on both the RCA connectors and Gold plated on the 5 pin DIN connector.
The Cables Online ADG-300 sales for $20.95 and is a 6 inch cable adapter that allows one to connect up to a 100 feet RG-6 RCA style cables to their videogame system. The Cables Online ADG-506 sales for $24.95 and is 6 feet in length.
While the Sega Master System is a native mono videogame system, the advantage of the Sega Genesis system one videogame system is that it is a native stereo videogame system. However the Sega Genesis system one has a hardware limitation and does not offer stereo sound from the DIN jack, instead one needs to use stereo headphones or a stereo to RCA adapter. For people that own a stereo system or have a stereo TV the ideal adapter to use with the Cables Online ADG-300 is Monoprices gold plated 7 inch 3.5mm stereo Male to 2 RCA Female adapter for $2.32 (part #5611). In addition, for setups that use the 6 feet Cables Online ADG-506, the Monoprice 6 feet Gold Plated 3.5mm Stereo Male to 2 RCA Male cables for $2.97 is ideal (part #5598).
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High-end Gold Plated composite video and audio cables
It has been verified that the $20.95 Cables Online ADX-300 6 inch Gold Plated 5 pin DIN plug that works with RG-6 RCA style cables up to 100 feet is 100% compatible with the Spectravideo SV-318/SV-328, Sony HB-10, and Yamaha CX-5M computers. The same is true for the $24.95 Cables Online ADX-506 6 feet Gold Plated 5 pin DIN plug.
Composite video output was the best quality output for these classic 80’s computers without doing some type of internal modifications.
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Two high-end BETA RF TV cables for the Spectravideo SV-318/SV-328, Sony HB-10, and Yamaha CX-5M
Some older 20th Century tube TV’s and even some modern 2018 flat panel screens do not have a composite video input. Instead the only way to connect ones Spectravideo SV-318/SV-328, Sony HB-10, and Yamaha CX-5M is by using the built in RF modulator connected to the TV’s NTSC RF antenna input.
One negative feature of the Spectravideo SV-318/SV-328, Sony HB-10, and Yamaha CX-5M is that the standard female RCA jack was not used for the built in RF modulator. Instead, one needs to have a special DIN cable that accesses the RF modulator on pin number 5.
I had Cables Online make up a special state of the art BETA RF cable for the Spectravideo SV-318/SV-328, Sony HB-10, and Yamaha CX-5M. Pictured below is a ADR-300 6 inch 5 pin Gold plated RF cable with a female f connector that allows one to connect up to a 100 feet RG-6 Quad shield cable. Also pictured below is an ADR-506 6 feet 5 pin Gold plated RF cable with a gold plated male f connector that uses 18 gauge QUAD shield RG-6 cable. These cables have not been released on the market yet. However the ADR-300 has a suggested list price of $20.95 and the ADR-506 suggested list price of $24.95.
However on my Yamaha CX-5M computer that has a built in AC power supply, I have discovered that on some of the Yamaha CX-5M computers that pin 5 was not connected because a built in RF modulator was not offered on a select few Yamaha CX-5M computers. Plus after several decades the internal RF modulators are sometimes defective.
Therefore since I do not have a Spectravideo SV-318/SV-328, Sony HB-10, and Yamaha CX-5M computer with a working RF modulator I am unable to successfully test Cables Onlines new ADR-300 and ADR-506 cables. So the cables pictured below are BETA cables that might never be released. Also the composite video and audio output cables that people are already using with their Spectravideo SV-318/SV-328, Sony HB-10, and Yamaha CX-5M computers are better quality then a RF cable.
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Making ones own Spectravideo power supply
It’s extremely hard to find a working or broken Spectravideo power supply. I do not see any pinout information for the Spectravideo power supply. If I could measure a working power supply then I would know which pin or pins are ground, and which pin or pins is used for 16 volts AC and 9 Volts AC. The USA version of the Spectravideo power supply are so rare that pictures do not exist online. Every picture that I have seen so far for the Spectravideo power supply is for the European model. It is my understanding that both the USA NTSC SpectraVideo SV-318 and SV-328 and the Europe PAL Spectravideo computer power supplies output 16 volts AC at 0.8 amps max and 9 volts AC at up to 1.5 amps max. However since I have never seen a USA Spectravideo power supply that information needs to be verified.
Since we know for sure the European power supply specs. Then if one wanted to use a European PAL Spectravideo system in the United States, then one could de-solder the power cord from a broken Spectrvideo power supply and make their own power supply. The following is not the ideal solution, however it should work and this solution is legal for resale since it uses two level VI energy efficient wall transformers. For North America consumers only since the two power supplies are 120 volts AC at 60Hz: Purchase a 16 volt AC Traid WAU160-750T-S UL listed and efficiency level VI adapter for around $14 and a 9 volt AC Triad WAU090-1200-S UL listed and efficiency level VI adapter for around $14. There is also the 16 volt AC WAU160-750T-SG that has the grounding terminal and the 9 volt AC WAU090-1200-SG that has a grounding terminal.
Grab the power cable that one de-soldered with the special 4 pin connector on the end. Then one screws the two bare 16 volt AC wires on the two 16 volt AC terminals of the 16 volt AC power supply and the ground wire on the ground terminal of the 16 volt AC power supply, that is if the ground wire is used (have to see the pinout information). Then one takes the two 9 volt AC wires and screws those wires on the 9 volt AC terminals of the 9 volt AC power supply and the ground wire to the ground terminal of the 9 volt AC power supply if the ground wire is used (have to see the pinout information). I have not tried this but it might work, however it is not the ideal solution since it uses two wall transformers instead of one. One other issue is that the 16 volt AC adapter mentioned above is only 0.75 amps and the original Spectravideo adapter outputted 0.8 amps. In addition, the 9 volt AC adapter mentioned above is only 1.2 amps and the original adapter is 1.5 amps. Therefore this would need to be tested to verify that it works, however it might work if the Spectravideo system does not draw the full current of what the original Spectravideo AC adapter puts out. However, for under $30 for two power supplies and a 10 year warranty that well be attractive for some Spectravideo owners.
There might be another way to power the Spectravideo computer system since internally the computer system converts AC to DC. On the ColecoVision game system, when the Expansion Module #3 ADAM computer is plugged into the front 60 pin expansion module interface the 4 pin ColecoVision power supply is no longer used since the ADAM computer powers the ColecoVision over the 60 pin expansion edge connector. According to the Spectravideo pinout information online , pin 1 is + 5 volts DC, pin 3 is +12 volts DC, and pin 4 is -12 volts DC. With an ATX power supply and a specially made 50 pin Male edge connector cable the Spectravideo computer system in theory could be powered by the 50 pin male edge connector (However the pinout information claims those voltages are output only, however those voltages might be bi-directional just like the 60 pin ColecoVision expansion module interface).
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The Coleco ADAM appears to be much more popular in the United States when compared to the Spectravideo computer system. At ATARIAGE there is a dedicated ColecoVision/ADAM forum since a minimum of 500,000 Coleco ADAM’s were sold and a minimum of 2 million ColecoVisions were sold. How many Spectravideo computer systems were sold worldwide or in the USA? I am guessing 100,000 or less.
Its extremely hard to find a working NTSC Spectravideo with a working power supply.
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Someone needs to get a third party cable manufactory to make a 6 foot black cord with this special connector on one side and 4 pair wires on the other side. There are some third party ATX power supplies on the market that have a Coleco ADAM computer wire harness which is a unique DB-9 style connector and a ColecoVision power cord wire harness. Those power supplies work very well at 220 and 120 volts for the Coleco ADAM and ColecoVision systems. Making a TI-99/4a and Spectravideo power supply that works at either 220 volts or 120 volts is possible, however it is a little bit more involved since one needs either a dual AC transformer, two separate AC transformers, or a single AC transformer with a voltage drop down circuit (Also the power supply would be made from scratch). However, before one can consider making a power supply for the many systems that use this special 4 pin connector we need a company to start making a high quality 6 foot black 18 gauge or 20 gauge cord again with the special connector on one end.
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High Quality Sega Genesis System one regulated 9 volt DC power supplies that operate worldwide between 100-240 VAC at 50-60Hz
When searching for a power supply for the Sega Genesis System one, the most difficult and time consuming issue was trying to find an external adapter that was legal to import into the United States per the February 10th 2016 Department of Energy level VI energy efficiency laws. All manufactories of external power supplies inside and outside the United States are required by law to manufacture their external power supplies so that the power supplies are level VI energy efficient as of February 10th 2016. In addition, any external power supply imported into the United States as of February 10th 2016 has to be level VI complaint. Existing resellers in the United States that have old power supplies that were manufactured and imported into the United States before February 10th 2016 are allowed to continue to sale their old inventory.
The problem is there are many Chinese power supply companies that are not following the level VI DOE law and are shipping old level IV and level V stock into the United States in 2018. While I realize USA dealers are allowed to have old stock that was imported prior to February 10th 2016, the problem is there are many USA power supply dealers that are advertising Chinese power supplies as level VI efficiency and instead shipping out level IV and level V power supplies since they have old stock. To make matters worse when ordering from some USA dealers the power adapters are shipped directly from China to ones USA address and some of these Chinese companies are shipping out level IV and V power supplies in 2018 which is in violation of the Feb 10th 2016 DOE law. While it is nice to have power supplies and other products that use less energy, the problem is unless this law is enforced it becomes very time consuming hassle for resellers and consumers that are trying to follow the law, since some Chinese power supply companies are not following the DOE level VI law.
There is several 9 volt DC power supplies I ended up returning from several different companies since I paid a premium price to get the advertised level VI efficiency level and instead received old stock of level IV and V efficiency.
For the Sega Genesis System which requires 9 volts DC with a negative tip, only the TRIAD Magnetics brand meets the level VI energy efficiency requirement and power output requirements
The second hardest issue when selecting a power adapter for the Sega Genesis system one is finding a 9 volt DC power adapter that is both negative tip with level VI energy efficient. The selection of 9 volt DC power adapters is a lot larger if one is looking for a positive tip instead of a negative tip. According to Digi-key’s database there is only 17 in production power adapters that are level VI, 9 volt DC, and a negative tip. Out of those 17 adapters less them 10 of the Triad Magnetics models has enough power to be used with the Sega Genesis system one and has the correct plug size.
While some of the spec sheets claim 5 feet and 6 feet cords for the TRIAD Magnetics 9 volt DC adapters, after measuring 3 different models the actual cable length of the adapters is around 5.5 feet.
In addition, the original Sega Genesis system one requires a negative tip that is 2.1mm x 5.5mm x 11mm. All Triad 9 volt DC power supplies are either UL listed or conforms to UL Standards, they also are FCC certified, and have Canadian standard CSA safety, and with CE certification for Europe.
Triad Level VI compliance Notification
The following TRIAD power adapters also come with a 5 year warranty.
The top of the line adapter to use with the Sega Genesis System one is the TRIAD WSU090-3500-R
Triad Magnetics makes nice regulated 9 volt DC power supplies that is smaller and better quality when compared to the original Sega Genesis unregulated power supply. TRAID power supplies also operate between 100-240 volts at 50/60Hz. For example, the Triad Magnetics WSU090-3500-R has a 3.5 amp capacity and can power anything that I hooked up to the Sega Genesis System one (Power adapter plug makes a perfect fit on Sega Genesis System one). I connected the Sega Master System Power Base converter that worked fine. The Genesis 32x and Model 1 Sega CD use their own separate power supplies, however with 3.5 amp power supply capacity and the correct y adapter this Triad Magnetics power supply should have no trouble powering all 3 components at once. This TRIAD WSU090-3500-R power supply costs around $20 each. What was really disappointing is that after several samples from several different USA dealers that advertised this adapter as level VI energy efficient, every adapter I received was only level IV energy efficient because of old stock.
The Sega Genesis system one 2.5 amp TRIAD WSX090-2500-R with international worldwide plugs and with verified VI energy logo code on adapter
The TRIAD Magnetics WSX090-2500-R comes with North America plug, European Union plug, United Kingdom plug, and Australia/New Zealand plug. This adapter allows one to use the Sega Genesis system one anywhere in the world. With 2.5 amps of power everything worked fine with the Sega Genesis (Power adapter plug makes a perfect fit on Sega Genesis System one). I purchased this adapter TRIAD WSX090-2500-R for around $15.77 with free shipping from Arrow.com and the two samples I received were both energy efficiency level VI.
The 2 amp TRIAD WSU090-2000-R works with both the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis System One
The advantage of the TRIAD WSU090-2000-R is that its 100% compatible with both the original Sega Master System and the Sega Genesis System One. The Sega Master System does use a 2.1mm x 5.5mm x 11mm plug which is the same size as the Sega Genesis System One plug. The reason why the 3.5 amp TRIAD WSU090-3500-R power supply and the 2.5 amp TRIAD WSX090-2500-R does not work with the original Sega Master System is because the plastic base where the metal tip is attached at the end of the cord is too large. On the TRIAD WSU090-2000-R the plastic base is thinner and makes a perfect fit on both the original Sega Master System and Sega Genesis System One. This 2 amp TRIAD WSU090-2000-R power supply can be purchased for around $12 each. However so far all my samples are only energy efficiency level V and not the claimed VI that is advertised. I am waiting for one more sample from another supplier to see if they have stock that is level VI energy efficient per their claimed online advertisement specs. If I do receive level VI energy efficient 2 amp TRIAD WSU090-2000-R power supplies I well post which supplier is selling them (but I have my doubts that I well get level VI power supplies).
In theory the 1.3 amp TRIAD WSU090-1300-R that sales for around $9 in theory should work with both the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis System one. However, I have not personally tried this low cost model and have no plans to try this model, but the specs claim the adapter should work. Yes its $3 cheaper and all one really needs is 1.3 amps to power one Sega game system. However, the advantage of the 2 amp TRIAD WSU90-2000-R for $3 more at around $12 each is that one has extra power capacity for possible future use.
What every TRAID adapter one chooses to use with the Sega Genesis System One, it is awesome that there is a big selection of adapters that well work with the Sega game systems. However receiving an actual TRAID 9 volt DC power supply at the end of 2018 with an energy efficiency level VI rating is the biggest challenge since most people instead get old pre 2016 stock that is either level IV or V.
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I have all the North America (USA) releases for the 12 inch Lasaeractive system for both SEGA and NEC, however if there is any exclusive Japanese games on 12 inch Laserdisc I do not own any of those. I also have all 4 pacs. The computer and karaoke pack were the hardest to find back in the mid 90's.
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The only advantage of owning the NEC Turbo Grafx PAC from the Pioneer Laseractive system is if one wants to play the exclusive 12 inch NEC Laserdisc games. There were more 12 inch Laserdisc games made for the Sega Genesis PAC. There were so few of these Pioneer CLD-A100 sold that it became a expensive collectors item that went up in value. It is estiamted that only around 10,000 CLD-A100 were sold. I do not know the numbers of NEC pacs sold, however there s a possibility that instead of 10,000 being made, maybe only 5,000-7,000 NEC pacs were made. Some people that purhcased the system did not buy any game pacs and only used the CLD-A100 to play music CD's and Laserdisc movies. The SEGA pack was much more popular and maybe 10,000 or 7,000 were made. The computer PAC and karaoke PAC are extremely rare and maybe only a 1,000 of each were made (Even in the 90’s it was hard to find the computer pac and karaoke pac). However I am just tossing out numbers and it could be 5,000 were made of each.
It costs to much sometimes to have a real game console, sometimes its better to download a free emulator for a Windows PC (The 12 inch Laserdisc games to my knowledge have not been emulated but most likely the SEGA Genesis system and NEC system for the normal cartridges and CD-ROM’s have been emulated in Windows).
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Poor quality third party Sega Genesis controllers on the market
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Posted · Edited by HDTV1080P
I am having major problems trying to find a Sega Genesis game controller that matches the quality of the original official Sega Genesis controller. Since Sega no longer makes brand new game controllers for the Genesis system, my goal was to find a Sega Genesis compatible controller that matched or beat the quality of the original official Sega Genesis controller. I might have to settle with a used official Sega controller.
I have tried at least 3 or 4 different brands of controllers and they all have problems. I ordered 3 Sega compatible controllers directly from China with free shipping, and instead of getting compatible Sega controllers that I ordered, the Chinese company ended up sending me counterfeit Sega controllers with the official Sega logo printed on the controller (I get upset when some companies ship me counterfeit products). To make matters worse the controllers did not operate correctly and ended up in the trash since the 8 directional control pad broke off.
I also tried a brand new Sega compatible controller in the retail box from a USA dealer. However the quality of the controller was poor and the 8 directional control pad broke off and the controller was smaller than the original. Therefore, I returned that Sega compatible controller.
I also tried a brand new in the retail box Sega Genesis Hyperkin controller which is double the cost for around $10 each. However even though that controller was almost the same physical size and feel of the original Sega controller, the problem is when playing Ms. Pacman, especially during the start of the game, the controller eight directional pad would not respond to up or down actions. In addition, the original Sega controller worked perfectly fine during Ms. Pacman but so far I have not found a third party controller that works ok with Ms. Pacman.
What is the deal with the third party Sega controllers? It is like everyone or almost everyone is only interested in making a cheap quality Sega controller and not interested in the actual quality of the controller.
I have tried around 4 different brands of controllers now, and nothing beats the original Sega controller (The Pioneer Laseractive Sega controller is the same quality but no longer available). Has anyone ran into any third party Sega controllers that matches or beats the quality of the original Sega controller?
If the answer is no to the above question then I am going to need to purchase a used Sega Genesis controller or find a rare new one. It looks like there is no third party Sega Master system controllers being sold, and instead one just uses the Sega Genesis controller on a Sega Master system.