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  1. On September 17th 2018 the United States Trade Representative announced a new 10% tariff that went into effect on September 24th 2018 for some Chinese products, including computer power supplies. That tariff rate well increase to 25% on January 1st 2019. This means USA consumers well be soon paying around 25% higher prices for computer power supplies and other electronics.
  2. *** Limited run of only 27 power supplies outfitted with a custom Coleco ADAM wiring harness *** I just recently purchased another Coleco ADAM DB9 power cord from a ADAM Computer dealer for around $20 (it was the last one they had in stock). Therefore the limited run has been officially increased from 26 power supplies to now 27 power supplies.
  3. The following is more detailed electrical connection information on how to connect the Coleco ADAM wire harness to a 20 pin or 24 pin ATX power supply that offers the legacy -5 volts DC feature It is recommend to use the following ATX breakout board mentioned in a prior post at this link. This allows one to test the ATX power supply with the Coleco ADAM wire harness before actually removing the old wire harness and installing the new Coleco ADAM wire harness. On the existing factory installed ATX power supply wire harness there are many different wires that are color coded. For the Coleco ADAM computer the +3.3 volt DC orange wire, the -12 volt DC blue wire, the +5VSB purple wire, and the gray wire is never used. Therefore, never connect anything to the orange, blue, purple, and gray wire inside the ATX power supply when installing the Coleco ADAM computer wire harness. (Step One): The Coleco DB9 power cord pin 1 brown wire is +12 volts DC and is connected to any of the +12 volt DC yellow wires inside the ATX power supply. (Step two): The Coleco DB9 power cord pin 2 red wire is +12 volts DC and is connected to any of the +12 volt DC yellow wires inside the ATX power supply (Since there is plenty of yellow wires in the power supply, use a different yellow wire then what was used in step one). (Step three): The Coleco DB9 power cord pin 3 orange wire is +5 volts DC and is connected to any of the +5 volt DC red wires inside of the ATX power supply. (Step four): The Coleco DB9 power cord pin 4 yellow wire is -5 volts DC and is connected to the one and only -5 volts DC white wire inside of the ATX power supply (This -5 volts DC is a rare feature that does not exist on all or most modern ATX power supplies). (Step five): The Coleco DB9 power cord pin 5 Green wire is a ground wire that connects to any of the black ground wires inside of the ATX power supply. (Step six): There is a bare metal wire on the Coleco DB9 power cable (also called a drain wire). Insulate this wire with either heat shrink tubing or use UL listed electrical tape to wrap and insulate this bare wire. This Coleco DB9 power cord bare wire is connected to the one and only power supplies power on detection circuit (green wire). So after insulating the Coleco bare metal wire, attach the wire to the one and only green wire on the ATX power supply. When every the Coleco ADAM DB9 power cord is connected to the ADAM memory console the power supply well turn on if the power switch is in the on position, however if someone disconnects the Coleco DB9 power cord from the ADAM memory console the power supply well automatically turn off. The above 6 connections are all that is needed to use the Apollo 400 watt power supply with the ADAM Computers Memory Console. If one wants to connect the ADAMNET communication to the power supply for the connection of the original Coleco ADAM printer then read the following section. Connecting the second DB9 cable to the Power Supply for ADAMNET Printer communication The following additional wiring well allow one to connect their original Coleco ADAM printer to the power supply (The power supply in the printer runs cooler since the printer power supply only powers the ADAM printer instead of powering the entire computer system). In addition the bug where the ADAM printer carriage return advances one line space each time the computer Memory Console reset is pulled has been fixed, if one follows the following wire configuration for ADAMNET communications. When one wants to print they just turn on the ADAM printer and pull the Memory Console reset button so that ADAMNET sees the printer (Save any important files before resetting the computer). A Gold plated DB9 28 gauge fully shielded cable can be purchased for $5.45 plus free shipping from Cables Online. This cable is for ADAMNET printer communication. (Step seven): Cut the female DB9 connector off the end of the cable and then strip the wires off that you need. Be carefully and make sure you only cut the female DB9 end off the cable, if one cuts the wrong end off then a replacement cable for around $5.45 well need to purchased. On this cable only the green and blue wires are used. (Step eight): Attach the green wire on the DB9 cable to any of the black ground wires inside of the ATX power supply (Since there is plenty of black wires in the power supply, use a different black wire then what was used in step five). (Step nine): Attach the blue wire on the DB9 cable, to the one and only purple wire on the Coleco ADAM DB9 power cord. Never attach the purple wire on the ATX power supply to the ADAM wire harness. That purple wire on the ATX power supply is never used. (Step ten): The blue wire on the Coleco ADAM DB9 power cord is not used for this project and should be insulated. In fact make sure all cables including the ones that are not being used are insulated with no bare wire sticking out the end so that the Apollo 400 Watt power supply does not go into protection mode from a short circuit. There are several ways to remove and attach a different wire harness to a power supply. Some people might solder the wires directly on the power supply circuit board while other people might use special high quality UL list or approved crimp on connectors. To insulate a bare wire at the end of a cable that was cut off one might use UL listed crimp on plastic connectors that sale for around $6.14 for a bag of 1,000. Many of the crimp on connectors require a tool like the SG Tool Aid SGT18980 crimping tool for around $100 which makes a perfect crimp every time.
  4. Thank you very much for the information. I could not find that information online about the Amiga 600 and 1200 having built in RF modulators. Thanks for the information about the Amiga 1200 using a external power supply (I thought it was just the 500 and 600 with external power supplies from some online information I read). I am guessing that all or most Amiga models were offered in both a NTSC USA version and a PAL Europe version.
  5. I had a question about the Amiga computers. I realize that the RGB and composite video output is much better then RF. However looking online at the Amiga computers I noticed that some Amiga computers have a built in RF modulator. Which models of Amiga computers have the built in RF modulators? I noticed that there was an external RF modulator that came with all Amiga 520 computers that plugged into the RGB port. But I am curious which Amiga models had a RF modulator built in. In addition, I noticed that the Amiga computers except for the Amiga 500 and 600 have a built in power supply that accepts a standard AC cord. That is a real nice feature. Sometime in the future I might get an Amiga computer for the first time in my life and I would mainly use RGB and perhaps once and awhile RF for a low priced TV. However, most likely only RGB and composite video for most hookups. I am new to the Amiga forum on ATARIAGE and to my knowledge I have never posted here before. The following information is new to people in this Amiga thread but contains some repeated information for people that follow me on ATARIAGE. I am comparing other computers to the first computer system that I have owned in my life. Back around August of 1982 my first videogame system was the ColecoVision, then in October of 1983 I purchased the Expansion Module #3 ADAM computer for the ColecoVision. The ADAM computer had advanced videogames like Buck Rodgers the Supergame, Donkey Kong the Supergame, Donkey Kong Junior the Supergame, and Zaxxon the Supergame. Between 1983-1985 the ADAM computer offered the best quality videogames for the titles mentioned above when compared to other videogame and computer systems. In fact, some of the ADAM games used up to 256KB space which was really awesome back in 1983. Then in January of 1985 Coleco stopped making videogames and computers. When the Nintendo Entertainment system was released in October of 1985 in the USA it was more powerful than the ColecoVision/ADAM system for some game titles. In addition, Nintendo had 64 sprites which gave NES an advantage in late 1985. I actually used the Coleco ADAM computer for videogames and word processing between 1983 to around 1993. Which is a good ten-year period. I liked the quality of classic videogames the ADAM offered. Also in the 80’s we had BBS systems and there was no Internet with information overload when one googles. Instead, one had to call on the phone and subscribe to magazines to find out new information about computers and videogame systems (and if one did not know about certain computer magazines they were out of the information loop). Anyways sometime around 1993 or 1994 I switched to a IBM compatible computer using the Windows 3.1 operating system. I like the 80 column display with Microsoft Word with modern better spell checking features when compared to the ADAM spell checker. Since around 1993 or 1994 I have upgraded my computer system about once every 5 years. I now own a computer with a modern X99 motherboard that I built in 2015. However I am realizing that starting in mid to late 1985 there were some much more powerful computers that came out that used 16 bit processors and I guess the reason why I used my one and only ADAM computer for 10 years was because I had some favorite videogame titles I liked on that ADAM computer system. The ADAM computer has a Z80 3.58Mhz processor with 4 expansion slots on the motherboard (3 internal and 1 external). This year I purchased a Commodore 128 computer for the very first time. The Commodore 128 uses a Zilog Z80 2Mhz processor which means according to the specs the computer is slower than the ADAM’s processor. However, the Commodore 128 does have some advantages over the ADAM computer like 128kb memory with true 80 column color output. The Basic program has some advantages over SmartBasic, however I prefer the classic arcade games on the ADAM computer versus the Commodore 128 games. However to be fair many of the games out their were created for the Commodore 64, I would need to try some exclusive games made especially for the Commodore 128 RGBi 80 column color mode. Now the Amiga and Atari ST computers are much more powerful when compared to the ADAM computer in terms of specs. Coleco when they stopped making computers in January 1985 never came out with a 16 bit computer system. The Amiga 1000 that was released in July 1985 has a 7Mhz CPU with native RGB output. Plus some of the Amiga’s have internal expansion slots on the motherboard with a detachable keyboard just like the ADAM computer and the 1991 Atari Mega STE offers. Sometime in the future, I would be interested in purchasing one of Commodores Amiga flagship computers to give it a try to see what kind of high quality games were made for that system.
  6. Thanks for the information on the Mega ST having internal expansion slots. If I do buy one of these used ATARI ST's it looks like I am limited to the 1040ST and the 520ST. The Mega ST and Falcon are almost impossible to find. They must have been made in lower QTY's. Thanks everyone for the useful information.
  7. The IBM PC was more of a business machine then a home computer. There were not that many home computers that had a separate keyboard away from the memory console, ATARI offered that feature with the MEGA ST. Also the motherboard on the ADAM in 1983 had 4 hardware expansion slots. Clearly the XBOX and Playstation systems with BD-ROM drives are better videogame systems, I was referring to the year 1983 to 1985 time frame that the ADAM had better videogame quality. The NES in October of 1985 clearly beat the ColecoVision and ADAM computer in videogame quality. All ADAM computers shipped with Buck Rodgers the Supergame in the retail box starting in October of 1983. The OPCODE Games expansion module you are talking about was required for ColecoVision owners. I do prefer ATARI's PACMAN for the ColecoVision versus the ATARI 8 bit version. It was made in 1983 and just because it was not released until the 21st Century as a prototype sample does not change the fact that the game was developed around 1983 and shows what the quality of a ColecoVision game can do. Everyone has a favorite computer that they grew up with. People that first purchased the ATARI 800 in 1979 love the nice features on it. The 1979 ATARI 800 has native Y/C that the ADAM computer that is 4 years newer lacks. Back in 1979 many people enjoyed the ATARI 800 and that was many peoples first computer system. There are many pluses and minuses to most computer systems including the ATARI computers. The more I learn about the ATARI ST series computers the more respect I have for that top of the line series of computers. It just appears to be missing some expansion module interfaces on the motherboards that IBM, ADAM, and some others have.
  8. I realize that the ATARI ST is a more powerful computer then many others including the ADAM computer. However looking at the pictures of the back of the computer I do not see any large expansion module interface. For example I am guessing that it is not possible for a hardware developer to make a ATARI 2600 adapter or ATARI 5200 adapter. Instead some type of software emulation would need to occur to play ATARI 2600 or ATARI 5200 games on the ATARI ST computer.
  9. The Coleco ADAM was my first computer system and I am using that computer to compare it to other ATARI computers. The 4 expansion ports and 16 device ADAMNET feature were state of the art for a 1983 home computer. Just curious if the ATARI ST offered any type of hardware expansion interfaces. Every computer has pluses and minuses.
  10. I wonder if the 32 bit Falcon and the 16 bit Atari ST computers are powerful enough to have a software emulator created that would run all or most of the classic ATARI 8 bit computer games and programs. The built in serial and parallel printer port on the very first June 1985 Atari 520ST computer is nice. However is there any master expansion module interface on the ATARI ST computers where one could create hardware devices like a USB interface, Atari 2600 adapter, etc? The ADAM computer has 4 expansion module interfaces (one external and 3 internal) that allow many add on devices to be attached. In addition, the ADAM computer allows up to 16 hardware devices to be connected at once using the 6 pin ADAMNET cable.
  11. Coleco in 1984 started placing important notice stickers on the Memory Console cover right above the area where one inserts a Digital Data Pack that said things like "DO NOT TURN POWER ON OR OFF with Data Pack in unit". "Note: Failure to observe these precautions may cause Data Pack Damage". In theory the Coleco ADAM would have been much more successfully if the developers would have launched the system in 1984 instead of 1983. A 1984 launch of the ADAM could have been bundled with a disk drive and the Digital Data Drives could have been eliminated. However I do not have a time machine to change the past and I could not say for sure if the ADAM launched in perfect condition if it would join IBM and Apple as the big 3 computer companies. Some of the designs like ADAMNET and a separate detachable keyboard were state of the art concepts for 1983 that started appearing on 90's computers. Third party hardware and software developers had fun making products like a dual serial/parallel interface for the ADAM computer, 3.5 inch 1.44MB ADAMNET disk drives, ADAM hard drives, 2MB memory expanders, and other neat inventions. Eve Electronics, Micro innovations, and others developed some very nice hardware add on devices for the ADAM computer. MicroFox developed a microSD drive. ATARIMAX developed the Ultimate SD Wafer Drive (Also called the Ultimate SD cartridge). OPCODE Games developed the Super Game Module with a advanced sound chip. Thanks for the information about some of the Atari STE computers not having the RF modulator built in. This means one really does need to look on the back of their Atari ST computer to see which ones have the RF modulator. As I was saying before in a earlier post one cannot tell by the model number. Now I am wondering if the (M) at the end of the model number really means 100% RF modulators built in. I prefer RGB and composite video, however having RF is a bonus if one were to run into a very old cheap TV with no video inputs.
  12. According to this website the Atari Mega STE was released in 1991. "The Atari Mega STE was Atari Corporation's last ST series personal computer, released in 1991." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_MEGA_STE Also this year I purchased a used ATARI 130XE computer and every duplicate exact same game title so far that I have compared, the ColecoVision/ADAM version is better quality. Now that completely changes when the release of the ATARI 520ST in mid 1985. The Dragon's Lair and some other games are so much better on the ATARI ST. Yes the ColecoVision/ADAM has some exclusive games that were never released for other systems. However with the 16 bit processor and graphics power of the ATARI ST a talented and skilled programmer could make all or most the ColecoVision/ADAM game titles on the Atari ST with better quality graphics and sound. I wonder how many ATARI ST games used native stereo sound.
  13. I purchased the ColecoVision around August 1982 and then I purchased the Expansion Module #3 ADAM computer in October of 1983. The reliability issue at launch gave the ADAM computer a bad reputation. The first generation of Expansion Module #3 ADAM computers at launch had a defective built in Smartwriter that locked up the entire computer when someone entered the Smartwriter mode. The Digital Data Drive worked for SmartBasic and worked fine for the amazing Buck Rodgers the Supergame but the Smartwriter was defective. I had to exchange my ADAM computer a minimum of 3 or 4 times before the Smartwriter bug issue was fixed. The issue was so bad that Montgomery Wards sent the entire batch of ADAM’s back to Coleco or Honeywell because of the bad Smartwriter issue. A person could come out with a conspiracy theory rumor that maybe someone at the Coleco assembly line was on purpose sabotaging the Smartwriter program so the ADAM would fail (The quality control should have caught the fact that the built in Smartwriter rom locked up the computer when going from electronic typewriter mode to word processing mode). The Digital Data Drives were automatic high speed 256KB tape drives that were much faster than a manual tape drive, but slower than a disk drive. Yes the ADAM computer would generate a very small EMP that would destroy data on DDP if someone by mistake turns the computer on or off with a DDP in the drive. In addition, both the first generation Digital Data Drives and printers had issues. The ADAM got better in 1984 when a Disk Drive came out. When the R80 ADAM computers came out in 1984 all the major problems were fixed and only minor problems remained. The latest generation of Digital Data Drives were more reliable and worked much better as long as one did not turn off or on the computer when a DDP was inserted. I do agree with the computer power supply being built into the printer is a bad design decision, but in later years third party companies came out with external power supplies for the ADAM computer. The funny thing is that people that were paying around $800 for their ADAM computer in October 1983 were getting the ADAM’s with the most bugs in it, however the people that purchased their ADAM computers after Coleco stopped making them in January 1985 were getting the best quality ADAM’s at the lowest prices. Some people were buying ADAM computers in 1986+ for under $200 which is way below the manufacturing costs. ADAM was unique back in 1983 since it had a square box form factor with a separate keyboard. Atari did not offer that until 1991 with the Mega ST computers.
  14. Thanks for the information. So if I want RF both the (M) and (E) at the end of the ST model number have RF modulators. Plus the E has stereo RCA output jacks. I like the fancy built in power supply design using a standard 3 prong AC power cord. If I do purchase one of these systems sometime in the future I would most likely go with the ATARI Falcon030 Computer System with a 32 bit processor and 32Mhz CPU. That is if I could find one. quote "The Falcon was the ultimate version of the Atari ST line. In comparison to previous models of the ST series, the Falcon included the 56000 mostly for sound processing, and the new VIDEL programmable graphics system, which greatly improved graphics capabilities." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Falcon
  15. I am glad your replacement Coleco ADAM power supply is available now for $99.99 fully assembled. You must have located some spare Coleco printer power cords. However when I click on the link you made it actually takes people to my power supply at the beginning of this thread. Here is the correct link to where people can purchase your power supply. http://retrosystemrescue.com/product/rcap-replacement-coleco-adam-power-supply/ Its nice that ADAM owners have a choice between at least 2 different third party power supplies. I use to offer converted PC power supplies with a ADAM wire harness back in the late 80's for the ADAM community. This is just a updated improved design.
  16. I do like the look of your plastic case better however all desktop style power supplies use metal cases which I prefer over plastic (The label is full color vinly and waterproof, it is the best quality and most expensive that the printer company had). Also this Apollo 400 watt power supply is super small when compared to a full size ATX power supply, since it uses a micro SFX design, it is only ATX when it comes to the ATX style of wire harness used before it received a Coleco ADAM wire harness. Before you entered this thread I mentioned in detail how people can build their own Apollo 400 watt power supply with ADAM wire harness, and the parts including power supply is around $70.45. Therefore both of our power supplies are the exact same cost.
  17. Thanks for the information. So any ATARI ST computer that has a (M) at the end of the model number means that those computers have a built in RF modulator. Does the ATARI ST computers with the built in RF modulator option have a switch somewhere on the console so that the RF modulator can output on a different channel? How about the two stereo RCA output option on some ATARI ST computers. Are you saying that the models with a E at the end have that feature? Now when it comes to power supplies. Some ATARI ST computers well accept a standard 3 prong AC power cord that modern day ATX power supplies use while other ATARI ST computers (most likely older) only have a DIN style power input. Most likely without looking on the back of the computer there is no other way to tell the difference.
  18. When comparing the Commodore Amiga and the Atari ST 16 bit computers, yes the games were better quality for those systems. However when I used a 8 bit Atari 130XE and a Commodore 128 I preferred the quality of the games that the ADAM computer system offered. The 1983 ATARISOFT Pacman on the ColecoVision and some others are better quality then when I play the ATARI Pacman cartridge for the ATARI 8 bit computers. Back in 1983 Buck Rodgers the Supergame was reference quality on the ADAM. Some of the ADAM games use up to 256KB space which is really awesome for 1983 and 1984 time frame. Now by 1985 it is understandable that the game quality for the ColecoVision/ADAM went down hill. The reason is that Coleco stopped making both computers, videogame systems, and actual videogames in January of 1985. The ATARI and Commodore have a massive library of computer software and videogames that most likely is 20+ times the amount that the ADAM computer has. Another issue is that in the 20th Century there was hardly any third party company making Coleco quality videogames and computer software for the ColecoVision/ADAM system (Walters Software had some Coleco quality software like ADAM Desktop and others). The videogame development for the ColecoVision system all changed in the 21st Century when companies like OPCODE Games, CollectorVision, and Team Pixelboy started making games that are beyond the typical ColecoVision/ADAM quality with a new OPCODE Supergame module and supergame cartridges that can hold up to 8MB of space (Plus there is now a 32GB SDHC wafer drive that a programmer can make a game as large as 32GB if they had the time and supercomputer tools to do so). Check out OPCODE games Pacman Collection for the ColecoVision it is the best version of Pacman and Ms Pacman that I have every seen on any 8 bit videogame or computer system.
  19. I know RGB and composite video is better quality then RF. However I was reading online that the first Atari 520ST’s did not have a RF modulator, and then later on in late 1985 the RF modulator was added. Also I have read that the 1040ST (F) does not have a RF modulator. However the Atari 1040ST (FM) does have a RF modulator. It appears to be confusing which Atari ST’s have the RF modulator and which ones do not (also there is no visible channel selector switch on the back so the RF modulator either works on one default channel or there is a hidden way to change the channel). It appears that some Atari 520ST’s have native stereo RCA output jacks with a standard 3 prong AC power cord while other Atari 520ST’s have no RCA stereo outputs and require a special DIN style power adapter. There appears to be to many variations that makes things complicated. The best and finial ATARI ST computer was the 32 bit Falcon that was released in 1992 and discontinued one year later in 1993.
  20. Coleco stopped making videogame and computer systems in January of 1985 and there was never a second generation 16 bit ADAM computer made. That Atari ST computer has really awesome graphics with its 16 bit processor. I know the Atari ST Dragon’s Lair is around 7 years after the ADAM Dragon’s Lair was released. However when one compares the ADAM Dragon’s Lair to the Atari ST Dragon’s Lair, the Atari ST Dragon’s Lair is so much better quality, (The original Laserdisc version is still better than the Atari ST version). The best version of Dragon’s Lair is the Blu-ray disc version that plays on any Blu-ray player. Thanks again for the videos, Atari had a real nice 16 bit computer that was comparable to the Amiga and according to the specs Atari’s first Motorola processor was 1Mhz faster than the Amiga. I now have some more respect for the Atari computers, I thought the Atari 130XE was all they had, but the Atari 130XE was only their best 8 bit computer system. Something happen in computer history that resulted in Atari and Commodore stopping the manufacture of computers around the mid 90’s and Windows with IBM clones and Apple taking over.
  21. Thanks for the video. According to the copywrite that Amiga version of Donkey Kong was released in 1993 which is around 10 years after the ADAM version was released. The Amiga version looks very nice. I would have to play both versions side by side to see which one is better.
  22. I went into details on how you can make your own for $70 for those that do not want to purchase one with the wire harness installed. I was never complaining about the price of the wire strippers, I was just letting people know where to get a very good quality automatic wire strippers.
  23. When I purchase power supplies, I always purchase the best quality available. For example I have built Desktop PC’s using the top of the line EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 watt T2 for around $400. However the problem is absolutely no fully modular ATX power supply exists on the market with -5 volts DC. The reason why I picked Athena Power’s Apollo 400 watt power supply is because it’s the absolute best ATX power supply on the market that has the legacy discontinued -5 volts DC feature. The MTBF on the power supply is 100,000 hours. There are over a dozen ATX power supply manufactories that I had to eliminate because all or most manufactories no longer offer -5 volts DC feature for the ATX power supply. I went into details why the price is $130 and I also mentioned how ATARIAGE readers can get a 20% discount off that list price. I also went into details on how someone can install their own wire harness on their own Apollo 400 watt power supply for around $70 including power supply if they already own the proper tools. So one can make their own power supply for around $70 if they want too. Both your custom power supply and the Athena Power supply with ADAM wire harness are the exact same price. Offhand I do not know what power supply you are using, however most people are using a $15 50 watt Mean Well RT-50 power supply and making their own custom neat looking plastic case. That is really amazing that you are giving your customers a lifetime warranty on your power supply which is way beyond the official manufactories warranty (if you are using a $15 power supply that is very economical replacement). Even the $400+ top of the line EVGA power supplies only have a 12 year warranty. This $35 Athena Power supply I am matching the manufactories warranty of 1 year. Just about everything I sale has a 60 day return policy, plus this power supply has a 1 year warranty directly from the dealer. After the 1 year warranty if the power supply breaks, I may offer the option to repair the power supply for a repair fee. All ATX power supplies have fans. There are advantages and disadvantages to having fans.
  24. The 1982 ColecoVision and the 1983 ADAM computer had the absoulte best videgames when compared to any other system (When the Nintendo NES was released in October of 1985 in the USA it had better quality graphics when compared to the ColecoVision/ADAM). Check out some ADAM exclusive games like Buck Rodgers the Supergame, Donkey Kong the Supergame with all 4 screens, and Donkey Kong Junior the Supergame with all 5 screens. Those last two games are such good quality that they even beat the NES version that does not have as many screens. But overall the NES is better for most games since it has 64 sprites instead of 32 sprites for the ColecoVision/ADAM. But even when I compare the ATARISOFT Pacman game for the ColecoVision and other games they look and sound better then the ATARI 800. It would be interesting to see some of the games created for the ATARI ST series and Amiga series. I am guessing there is no Donkey Kong for those two computers.
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