AtariMan1976

You can't see it in this picture, but there are three enemy ships and a humanoid. My own ship disappears when I fire. The game is trying to murder me, but moves slower than Jason Voorhees' gumless greatgrandfather. With the superchip, I don't stand a chance. The VCS gains consciousness. Humanity is doomed. But epileptics can safely play the game too, during their last hours alive. It is our only comfort.

Anyone on here ever come across Pac-Man cereal boxes or even a pac-man t-shirt?? I would love to find something like that.

Update in my post: I just opened the one in box that i thought was my third 4 switch woody turned out to be a 6 switch light which was nice to find out. I had packed it quite awhile back and forgotten what was in there. I thought it was a 4. So what i have is one atari light 6, 2 atari 4's, one sears heavy 6, and one sears light 6.

Cool. My heavy sixer is from sunnyvale as well and i also have a flashback 2 unopened.

Wow!

How many of you own more than one 2600? Which ones are they. Some may find it strange to have multiples of the same unit, but you can't have too much of a good thing right? i have........ 3 4 switchers, one which is in original box 1 heavy sixer sears model and 1 light sixer sears model. for a total of 5

wow thats cool, what would be the difference between these games and regular ones?

What is it and what does it do?

PM sent!

Great!!

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10 See what? That's one persons OPINION. And I think it's WRONG, MY OPINION. Not that your asking, but if I rated a scale of 1-10, I'd put RF at about a 3, composite at about 5, S-video at 8 and component/RGB at 10. giving a larger difference in the scales between composite and S-video. Oh, and if your refering to me with the "See, just like you said..." that wasn't me. But I'm not trying to start a fight, just saying that I find the jump between the two video inputs to be much larger than you suggest, and if you don't think there's much difference, then whether your eye sight is good or not, it's not as good as mine. but this is just my OPINION with my incredible eye sight. i wasn't referring to you. as for the rating system, whats the difference, were not much different here except you gave rf a 3. i just give it a flat out 1 because its the most basic there is and not all that great. As for eyesight, mines just as good as anyone elses a 20/20. it has nothing to do with that. All i was saying is that i just dont hold as much value to different connections as you do. My main importance is just have the system, and that they all work, and i can play them. As for the many different way to hook one up, i upgrade as i can when i can. I only am using the rf on the jag right now because thats all it came with. If i had my choice, i'd be using s-video at least but i can't afford it right now. I'm sorry if wording my post the wrong way by describing connections all the sudden made you think i'm blind and that my stuff is junk. I'm only here to make friends, chat with other Ataru fans and just have fun. Everyone on here has been very nice and friendly. Again, i'm sorry you think what you do about me just because i said i didnt feel much difference between the two. Sure theres a big difference but its just not that important to me right now. I'm sorry about my choice of words, I don't know what you have, so I can only judge it's quality based on your opinion that there is not much difference between composite and S-video, when I clearly think the difference is significant. I was being sarcastic. I totally understand about using what you have and upgrading as you can, I'm not rich myself. I want to have fun here too, and I didn't mean to insult you. Again, I'm sorry. Hey hey, no problem. i kinda took it the way you were talking that.....well you know.....Anyway no hard feelings here. I consider you and whoever else talks to me to kinda be like a friend you know? We're all here for pretty much the same reason. I've been into Atari stuff and video games in general as well as collecting for a very long time and its really all i got besides my wife and daughter. Its my hobby and it keeps me going. My only regret is selling anything i ever sold related to gaming. Kinda wish i'd kept it all. But now worries, i'm getting back up there. Anyway, i'm always open to suggestion. Sometimes i miss things myself.....especially how i word things sometimes. I should have said it a different way beside there being not much difference. Really when i said that, i was just thinking, once you get away from those rf switchboxes everything else is much clearer no matter what it is. I knew s-video was better but i never really just sat and anylized it other than that component beats even that. but your right, there is a big difference. Its just that i don't get much chance to use it, like said other than movies, things like that. I'd definitly like to upgrade some systems. Right now, this jag rf is driving me up the wall The problem is that the Jaguar's RF is pitiful compared to even RF on other systems. They just used a real cheap RF modulator that is much more succeptable to interference. Once again, the Tramiel's and their cost-cutting. What should have been done was built in RF (with a better modulator), and built in composite, stereo and S-video jacks like the 3DO. The edge connector for cables is yet another corner cut for costs. But I could go on and on about the cut corners...like only 2MB of system ram when it was designed for 6-8MB...Atari Corp. always managed to get great engineers working for them, whether in-house or via contract, but when it came to actual manufacturing, they screwed it all up...that and marketing. Yeah i know Jack didn't a whole lotta good for Atari that i know of. It is said tho, that he was the one that got Atari on the Fortune 500 but oh well. Some people refer to him as Jack "The Jackass" Tramiel. To me, he just screwed everything up when he delayed the 7800 from 84 to 86. By then, it was too late....the nes was already taking over.....even tho the 7800 has better specs in areas. By the way, what is the H and L on the jag? it's the 3-4 channel switch for RF, God only knows why they used H and L when every other console (including ATari's others) in the world uses 3-4 as far as I know. I don't know of any TV's where the channels go 1, 2, L, H, 5, 6, etc., do you? LOL. I had a feeling they meant 3 and 4. I noticed and even crappier reception with it being on 3 but i put it on channel 4 and it was a big improvement. See i don't have this problem with other system. I'm going to have to get a cable whether i like it or not. Channel 3 is notorious for bad reception/interference, whether it's a console, VCR or another channel, 3 is always the one that picks up the most interference, from the neighbors or whatever can possibly interfere with it does, even toasters and remote control cars interfere with it. It's got something to do with the FM band it's on, but I don't know the technicals. I can even have my Jaguar on, with a video cable, and if I leave it on and switch to channel 3 to watch TV, I can see the interference from the Jaguar. 3 should never have been the common channel for RF, 2 and 4 are always better(some consoles use 2&3 instead of 3&4) yeah, like the 2600 yep. Also, I revised my above reply, but you quoted too soon. which one? the post is too cluttered now you qouted me before I got the edit/revision done, so it's not going to show up here, you have to go back and look at the original reply about RF channels I made, you can't see it in this clutter becuase it's not there. Oh ok, i'm sorry

they are hard to come by buddy,i collect them too,their is an official one and a plain case that is the same except for the jaguar logo one was sold on ebay for $150 and another was sold for about $70 i believe,they are around,keep looking on ebay and eventually one will appear im sure,unless you find somebody willing to sell theirs,goog luck and welcome to Atariage buddybuddies Does anyone have a pic of one. Heck i would like to pick one up too.

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10 See what? That's one persons OPINION. And I think it's WRONG, MY OPINION. Not that your asking, but if I rated a scale of 1-10, I'd put RF at about a 3, composite at about 5, S-video at 8 and component/RGB at 10. giving a larger difference in the scales between composite and S-video. Oh, and if your refering to me with the "See, just like you said..." that wasn't me. But I'm not trying to start a fight, just saying that I find the jump between the two video inputs to be much larger than you suggest, and if you don't think there's much difference, then whether your eye sight is good or not, it's not as good as mine. but this is just my OPINION with my incredible eye sight. i wasn't referring to you. as for the rating system, whats the difference, were not much different here except you gave rf a 3. i just give it a flat out 1 because its the most basic there is and not all that great. As for eyesight, mines just as good as anyone elses a 20/20. it has nothing to do with that. All i was saying is that i just dont hold as much value to different connections as you do. My main importance is just have the system, and that they all work, and i can play them. As for the many different way to hook one up, i upgrade as i can when i can. I only am using the rf on the jag right now because thats all it came with. If i had my choice, i'd be using s-video at least but i can't afford it right now. I'm sorry if wording my post the wrong way by describing connections all the sudden made you think i'm blind and that my stuff is junk. I'm only here to make friends, chat with other Ataru fans and just have fun. Everyone on here has been very nice and friendly. Again, i'm sorry you think what you do about me just because i said i didnt feel much difference between the two. Sure theres a big difference but its just not that important to me right now. I'm sorry about my choice of words, I don't know what you have, so I can only judge it's quality based on your opinion that there is not much difference between composite and S-video, when I clearly think the difference is significant. I was being sarcastic. I totally understand about using what you have and upgrading as you can, I'm not rich myself. I want to have fun here too, and I didn't mean to insult you. Again, I'm sorry. Hey hey, no problem. i kinda took it the way you were talking that.....well you know.....Anyway no hard feelings here. I consider you and whoever else talks to me to kinda be like a friend you know? We're all here for pretty much the same reason. I've been into Atari stuff and video games in general as well as collecting for a very long time and its really all i got besides my wife and daughter. Its my hobby and it keeps me going. My only regret is selling anything i ever sold related to gaming. Kinda wish i'd kept it all. But now worries, i'm getting back up there. Anyway, i'm always open to suggestion. Sometimes i miss things myself.....especially how i word things sometimes. I should have said it a different way beside there being not much difference. Really when i said that, i was just thinking, once you get away from those rf switchboxes everything else is much clearer no matter what it is. I knew s-video was better but i never really just sat and anylized it other than that component beats even that. but your right, there is a big difference. Its just that i don't get much chance to use it, like said other than movies, things like that. I'd definitly like to upgrade some systems. Right now, this jag rf is driving me up the wall The problem is that the Jaguar's RF is pitiful compared to even RF on other systems. They just used a real cheap RF modulator that is much more succeptable to interference. Once again, the Tramiel's and their cost-cutting. What should have been done was built in RF (with a better modulator), and built in composite, stereo and S-video jacks like the 3DO. The edge connector for cables is yet another corner cut for costs. But I could go on and on about the cut corners...like only 2MB of system ram when it was designed for 6-8MB...Atari Corp. always managed to get great engineers working for them, whether in-house or via contract, but when it came to actual manufacturing, they screwed it all up...that and marketing. Yeah i know Jack didn't a whole lotta good for Atari that i know of. It is said tho, that he was the one that got Atari on the Fortune 500 but oh well. Some people refer to him as Jack "The Jackass" Tramiel. To me, he just screwed everything up when he delayed the 7800 from 84 to 86. By then, it was too late....the nes was already taking over.....even tho the 7800 has better specs in areas. By the way, what is the H and L on the jag? it's the 3-4 channel switch for RF, God only knows why they used H and L when every other console (including ATari's others) in the world uses 3-4 as far as I know. I don't know of any TV's where the channels go 1, 2, L, H, 5, 6, etc., do you? LOL. I had a feeling they meant 3 and 4. I noticed and even crappier reception with it being on 3 but i put it on channel 4 and it was a big improvement. See i don't have this problem with other system. I'm going to have to get a cable whether i like it or not. Channel 3 is notorious for bad reception/interference, whether it's a console, VCR or another channel, 3 is always the one that picks up the most interference, from the neighbors or whatever can possibly interfere with it does, even toasters and remote control cars interfere with it. It's got something to do with the FM band it's on, but I don't know the technicals. I can even have my Jaguar on, with a video cable, and if I leave it on and switch to channel 3 to watch TV, I can see the interference from the Jaguar. 3 should never have been the common channel for RF, 2 and 4 are always better(some consoles use 2&3 instead of 3&4) yeah, like the 2600 yep. Also, I revised my above reply, but you quoted too soon. which one? the post is too cluttered now

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10 See what? That's one persons OPINION. And I think it's WRONG, MY OPINION. Not that your asking, but if I rated a scale of 1-10, I'd put RF at about a 3, composite at about 5, S-video at 8 and component/RGB at 10. giving a larger difference in the scales between composite and S-video. Oh, and if your refering to me with the "See, just like you said..." that wasn't me. But I'm not trying to start a fight, just saying that I find the jump between the two video inputs to be much larger than you suggest, and if you don't think there's much difference, then whether your eye sight is good or not, it's not as good as mine. but this is just my OPINION with my incredible eye sight. i wasn't referring to you. as for the rating system, whats the difference, were not much different here except you gave rf a 3. i just give it a flat out 1 because its the most basic there is and not all that great. As for eyesight, mines just as good as anyone elses a 20/20. it has nothing to do with that. All i was saying is that i just dont hold as much value to different connections as you do. My main importance is just have the system, and that they all work, and i can play them. As for the many different way to hook one up, i upgrade as i can when i can. I only am using the rf on the jag right now because thats all it came with. If i had my choice, i'd be using s-video at least but i can't afford it right now. I'm sorry if wording my post the wrong way by describing connections all the sudden made you think i'm blind and that my stuff is junk. I'm only here to make friends, chat with other Ataru fans and just have fun. Everyone on here has been very nice and friendly. Again, i'm sorry you think what you do about me just because i said i didnt feel much difference between the two. Sure theres a big difference but its just not that important to me right now. I'm sorry about my choice of words, I don't know what you have, so I can only judge it's quality based on your opinion that there is not much difference between composite and S-video, when I clearly think the difference is significant. I was being sarcastic. I totally understand about using what you have and upgrading as you can, I'm not rich myself. I want to have fun here too, and I didn't mean to insult you. Again, I'm sorry. Hey hey, no problem. i kinda took it the way you were talking that.....well you know.....Anyway no hard feelings here. I consider you and whoever else talks to me to kinda be like a friend you know? We're all here for pretty much the same reason. I've been into Atari stuff and video games in general as well as collecting for a very long time and its really all i got besides my wife and daughter. Its my hobby and it keeps me going. My only regret is selling anything i ever sold related to gaming. Kinda wish i'd kept it all. But now worries, i'm getting back up there. Anyway, i'm always open to suggestion. Sometimes i miss things myself.....especially how i word things sometimes. I should have said it a different way beside there being not much difference. Really when i said that, i was just thinking, once you get away from those rf switchboxes everything else is much clearer no matter what it is. I knew s-video was better but i never really just sat and anylized it other than that component beats even that. but your right, there is a big difference. Its just that i don't get much chance to use it, like said other than movies, things like that. I'd definitly like to upgrade some systems. Right now, this jag rf is driving me up the wall The problem is that the Jaguar's RF is pitiful compared to even RF on other systems. They just used a real cheap RF modulator that is much more succeptable to interference. Once again, the Tramiel's and their cost-cutting. What should have been done was built in RF (with a better modulator), and built in composite, stereo and S-video jacks like the 3DO. The edge connector for cables is yet another corner cut for costs. But I could go on and on about the cut corners...like only 2MB of system ram when it was designed for 6-8MB...Atari Corp. always managed to get great engineers working for them, whether in-house or via contract, but when it came to actual manufacturing, they screwed it all up...that and marketing. Yeah i know Jack didn't a whole lotta good for Atari that i know of. It is said tho, that he was the one that got Atari on the Fortune 500 but oh well. Some people refer to him as Jack "The Jackass" Tramiel. To me, he just screwed everything up when he delayed the 7800 from 84 to 86. By then, it was too late....the nes was already taking over.....even tho the 7800 has better specs in areas. By the way, what is the H and L on the jag? it's the 3-4 channel switch for RF, God only knows why they used H and L when every other console (including ATari's others) in the world uses 3-4 as far as I know. I don't know of any TV's where the channels go 1, 2, L, H, 5, 6, etc., do you? LOL. I had a feeling they meant 3 and 4. I noticed and even crappier reception with it being on 3 but i put it on channel 4 and it was a big improvement. See i don't have this problem with other system. I'm going to have to get a cable whether i like it or not. Channel 3 is notorious for bad reception/interference, whether it's a console, VCR or another channel, 3 is always the one that picks up the most interference, from the neighbors or whatever can possibly interfere with it does, even toasters and remote control cars interfere with it. It's got something to do with the FM band it's on, but I don't know the technicals. I can even have my Jaguar on, with a video cable, and if I leave it on and switch to channel 3 to watch TV, I can see the interference from the Jaguar. 3 should never have been the common channel for RF, 2 and 4 are always better(some consoles use 2&3 instead of 3&4) yeah, like the 2600

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10 See what? That's one persons OPINION. And I think it's WRONG, MY OPINION. Not that your asking, but if I rated a scale of 1-10, I'd put RF at about a 3, composite at about 5, S-video at 8 and component/RGB at 10. giving a larger difference in the scales between composite and S-video. Oh, and if your refering to me with the "See, just like you said..." that wasn't me. But I'm not trying to start a fight, just saying that I find the jump between the two video inputs to be much larger than you suggest, and if you don't think there's much difference, then whether your eye sight is good or not, it's not as good as mine. but this is just my OPINION with my incredible eye sight. i wasn't referring to you. as for the rating system, whats the difference, were not much different here except you gave rf a 3. i just give it a flat out 1 because its the most basic there is and not all that great. As for eyesight, mines just as good as anyone elses a 20/20. it has nothing to do with that. All i was saying is that i just dont hold as much value to different connections as you do. My main importance is just have the system, and that they all work, and i can play them. As for the many different way to hook one up, i upgrade as i can when i can. I only am using the rf on the jag right now because thats all it came with. If i had my choice, i'd be using s-video at least but i can't afford it right now. I'm sorry if wording my post the wrong way by describing connections all the sudden made you think i'm blind and that my stuff is junk. I'm only here to make friends, chat with other Ataru fans and just have fun. Everyone on here has been very nice and friendly. Again, i'm sorry you think what you do about me just because i said i didnt feel much difference between the two. Sure theres a big difference but its just not that important to me right now. I'm sorry about my choice of words, I don't know what you have, so I can only judge it's quality based on your opinion that there is not much difference between composite and S-video, when I clearly think the difference is significant. I was being sarcastic. I totally understand about using what you have and upgrading as you can, I'm not rich myself. I want to have fun here too, and I didn't mean to insult you. Again, I'm sorry. Hey hey, no problem. i kinda took it the way you were talking that.....well you know.....Anyway no hard feelings here. I consider you and whoever else talks to me to kinda be like a friend you know? We're all here for pretty much the same reason. I've been into Atari stuff and video games in general as well as collecting for a very long time and its really all i got besides my wife and daughter. Its my hobby and it keeps me going. My only regret is selling anything i ever sold related to gaming. Kinda wish i'd kept it all. But now worries, i'm getting back up there. Anyway, i'm always open to suggestion. Sometimes i miss things myself.....especially how i word things sometimes. I should have said it a different way beside there being not much difference. Really when i said that, i was just thinking, once you get away from those rf switchboxes everything else is much clearer no matter what it is. I knew s-video was better but i never really just sat and anylized it other than that component beats even that. but your right, there is a big difference. Its just that i don't get much chance to use it, like said other than movies, things like that. I'd definitly like to upgrade some systems. Right now, this jag rf is driving me up the wall The problem is that the Jaguar's RF is pitiful compared to even RF on other systems. They just used a real cheap RF modulator that is much more succeptable to interference. Once again, the Tramiel's and their cost-cutting. What should have been done was built in RF (with a better modulator), and built in composite, stereo and S-video jacks like the 3DO. The edge connector for cables is yet another corner cut for costs. But I could go on and on about the cut corners...like only 2MB of system ram when it was designed for 6-8MB...Atari Corp. always managed to get great engineers working for them, whether in-house or via contract, but when it came to actual manufacturing, they screwed it all up...that and marketing. Yeah i know Jack didn't a whole lotta good for Atari that i know of. It is said tho, that he was the one that got Atari on the Fortune 500 but oh well. Some people refer to him as Jack "The Jackass" Tramiel. To me, he just screwed everything up when he delayed the 7800 from 84 to 86. By then, it was too late....the nes was already taking over.....even tho the 7800 has better specs in areas. By the way, what is the H and L on the jag? it's the 3-4 channel switch for RF, God only knows why they used H and L when every other console (including ATari's others) in the world uses 3-4 as far as I know. I don't know of any TV's where the channels go 1, 2, L, H, 5, 6, etc., do you? LOL. I had a feeling they meant 3 and 4. I noticed and even crappier reception with it being on 3 but i put it on channel 4 and it was a big improvement. See i don't have this problem with other system. I'm going to have to get a cable whether i like it or not.

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10 See what? That's one persons OPINION. And I think it's WRONG, MY OPINION. Not that your asking, but if I rated a scale of 1-10, I'd put RF at about a 3, composite at about 5, S-video at 8 and component/RGB at 10. giving a larger difference in the scales between composite and S-video. Oh, and if your refering to me with the "See, just like you said..." that wasn't me. But I'm not trying to start a fight, just saying that I find the jump between the two video inputs to be much larger than you suggest, and if you don't think there's much difference, then whether your eye sight is good or not, it's not as good as mine. but this is just my OPINION with my incredible eye sight. i wasn't referring to you. as for the rating system, whats the difference, were not much different here except you gave rf a 3. i just give it a flat out 1 because its the most basic there is and not all that great. As for eyesight, mines just as good as anyone elses a 20/20. it has nothing to do with that. All i was saying is that i just dont hold as much value to different connections as you do. My main importance is just have the system, and that they all work, and i can play them. As for the many different way to hook one up, i upgrade as i can when i can. I only am using the rf on the jag right now because thats all it came with. If i had my choice, i'd be using s-video at least but i can't afford it right now. I'm sorry if wording my post the wrong way by describing connections all the sudden made you think i'm blind and that my stuff is junk. I'm only here to make friends, chat with other Ataru fans and just have fun. Everyone on here has been very nice and friendly. Again, i'm sorry you think what you do about me just because i said i didnt feel much difference between the two. Sure theres a big difference but its just not that important to me right now. I'm sorry about my choice of words, I don't know what you have, so I can only judge it's quality based on your opinion that there is not much difference between composite and S-video, when I clearly think the difference is significant. I was being sarcastic. I totally understand about using what you have and upgrading as you can, I'm not rich myself. I want to have fun here too, and I didn't mean to insult you. Again, I'm sorry. Hey hey, no problem. i kinda took it the way you were talking that.....well you know.....Anyway no hard feelings here. I consider you and whoever else talks to me to kinda be like a friend you know? We're all here for pretty much the same reason. I've been into Atari stuff and video games in general as well as collecting for a very long time and its really all i got besides my wife and daughter. Its my hobby and it keeps me going. My only regret is selling anything i ever sold related to gaming. Kinda wish i'd kept it all. But now worries, i'm getting back up there. Anyway, i'm always open to suggestion. Sometimes i miss things myself.....especially how i word things sometimes. I should have said it a different way beside there being not much difference. Really when i said that, i was just thinking, once you get away from those rf switchboxes everything else is much clearer no matter what it is. I knew s-video was better but i never really just sat and anylized it other than that component beats even that. but your right, there is a big difference. Its just that i don't get much chance to use it, like said other than movies, things like that. I'd definitly like to upgrade some systems. Right now, this jag rf is driving me up the wall The problem is that the Jaguar's RF is pitiful compared to even RF on other systems. They just used a real cheap RF modulator that is much more succeptable to interference. Once again, the Tramiel's and their cost-cutting. What should have been done was built in RF (with a better modulator), and built in composite, stereo and S-video jacks like the 3DO. The edge connector for cables is yet another corner cut for costs. But I could go on and on about the cut corners...like only 2MB of system ram when it was designed for 6-8MB...Atari Corp. always managed to get great engineers working for them, whether in-house or via contract, but when it came to actual manufacturing, they screwed it all up...that and marketing. Yeah i know Jack didn't a whole lotta good for Atari that i know of. It is said tho, that he was the one that got Atari on the Fortune 500 but oh well. Some people refer to him as Jack "The Jackass" Tramiel. To me, he just screwed everything up when he delayed the 7800 from 84 to 86. By then, it was too late....the nes was already taking over.....even tho the 7800 has better specs in areas. By the way, what is the H and L on the jag?

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10 See what? That's one persons OPINION. And I think it's WRONG, MY OPINION. Not that your asking, but if I rated a scale of 1-10, I'd put RF at about a 3, composite at about 5, S-video at 8 and component/RGB at 10. giving a larger difference in the scales between composite and S-video. Oh, and if your refering to me with the "See, just like you said..." that wasn't me. But I'm not trying to start a fight, just saying that I find the jump between the two video inputs to be much larger than you suggest, and if you don't think there's much difference, then whether your eye sight is good or not, it's not as good as mine. but this is just my OPINION with my incredible eye sight. i wasn't referring to you. as for the rating system, whats the difference, were not much different here except you gave rf a 3. i just give it a flat out 1 because its the most basic there is and not all that great. As for eyesight, mines just as good as anyone elses a 20/20. it has nothing to do with that. All i was saying is that i just dont hold as much value to different connections as you do. My main importance is just have the system, and that they all work, and i can play them. As for the many different way to hook one up, i upgrade as i can when i can. I only am using the rf on the jag right now because thats all it came with. If i had my choice, i'd be using s-video at least but i can't afford it right now. I'm sorry if wording my post the wrong way by describing connections all the sudden made you think i'm blind and that my stuff is junk. I'm only here to make friends, chat with other Ataru fans and just have fun. Everyone on here has been very nice and friendly. Again, i'm sorry you think what you do about me just because i said i didnt feel much difference between the two. Sure theres a big difference but its just not that important to me right now. I'm sorry about my choice of words, I don't know what you have, so I can only judge it's quality based on your opinion that there is not much difference between composite and S-video, when I clearly think the difference is significant. I was being sarcastic. I totally understand about using what you have and upgrading as you can, I'm not rich myself. I want to have fun here too, and I didn't mean to insult you. Again, I'm sorry. Hey hey, no problem. i kinda took it the way you were talking that.....well you know.....Anyway no hard feelings here. I consider you and whoever else talks to me to kinda be like a friend you know? We're all here for pretty much the same reason. I've been into Atari stuff and video games in general as well as collecting for a very long time and its really all i got besides my wife and daughter. Its my hobby and it keeps me going. My only regret is selling anything i ever sold related to gaming. Kinda wish i'd kept it all. But now worries, i'm getting back up there. Anyway, i'm always open to suggestion. Sometimes i miss things myself.....especially how i word things sometimes. I should have said it a different way beside there being not much difference. Really when i said that, i was just thinking, once you get away from those rf switchboxes everything else is much clearer no matter what it is. I knew s-video was better but i never really just sat and anylized it other than that component beats even that. but your right, there is a big difference. Its just that i don't get much chance to use it, like said other than movies, things like that. I'd definitly like to upgrade some systems. Right now, this jag rf is driving me up the wall

Pardon? I clearly wrote that there can be a big difference, depending on the TV: I was going by your scale of 1 to 10 where composite is a 7 and S-video an 8 or 9, not much difference between 7 and 8 is there? I didn't see this comment you wrote above, but your scale contradicts it in my opinion. That scale was from Is650. not me. and as far as the difference, i don't have s-video for anything right now but my dvd player so i couldn't tell you how it would look on each system and i'm surely not going to mod my systems seeing as i want to keep them original. If i had 2 of everything, i might consider, but i doubt it. It is an interesting idea if your big on that sort of thing. I've always believed in higher end equipment but usually the only time i was really concerned with how things were connected is on my home theater. Fiber optic for dolby digital and dts and s-video for the movies. thats about it other than i try to keep at least composite on my games to get rid of the static rf interference.

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10 See what? That's one persons OPINION. And I think it's WRONG, MY OPINION. Not that your asking, but if I rated a scale of 1-10, I'd put RF at about a 3, composite at about 5, S-video at 8 and component/RGB at 10. giving a larger difference in the scales between composite and S-video. Oh, and if your refering to me with the "See, just like you said..." that wasn't me. But I'm not trying to start a fight, just saying that I find the jump between the two video inputs to be much larger than you suggest, and if you don't think there's much difference, then whether your eye sight is good or not, it's not as good as mine. but this is just my OPINION with my incredible eye sight. i wasn't referring to you. as for the rating system, whats the difference, were not much different here except you gave rf a 3. i just give it a flat out 1 because its the most basic there is and not all that great. As for eyesight, mines just as good as anyone elses a 20/20. it has nothing to do with that. All i was saying is that i just dont hold as much value to different connections as you do. My main importance is just have the system, and that they all work, and i can play them. As for the many different way to hook one up, i upgrade as i can when i can. I only am using the rf on the jag right now because thats all it came with. If i had my choice, i'd be using s-video at least but i can't afford it right now. I'm sorry if wording my post the wrong way by describing connections all the sudden made you think i'm blind and that my stuff is junk. I'm only here to make friends, chat with other Ataru fans and just have fun. Everyone on here has been very nice and friendly. Again, i'm sorry you think what you do about me just because i said i didnt feel much difference between the two. Sure theres a big difference but its just not that important to me right now.

If i were you, i'd try to hang on to all that stuff. atleast for now. I hate to see people sell their collections. we work hard to accumulate that kind of stuff. I've been there myself, selling alot of my stuff just to regret it way too much later. Now i only buy stuff anymore, never selling. Either way you choose, good luck and i hope you at least get what you want for it.

Theres a far bigger difference between s-video and rf than s-video and composite. I wasn't saying it wasn't better. Its just not a real real big deal when going from composite to s-video as it would be if you were using an rf box, then when to s-video. Real big change there. Right now, the only thing i have using s-video is my dvd player, the rest is mostly composite and like 2 rf boxes. I'm not loaded with money to go out and replcae all my cables or go modding everything i got. Theres no way i could handle doing all that right now. I'm sorry if you think i don't know the difference but i do.

It depends on your TV. I can see a significant difference between AV and SVideo on my set: sharper edges, richer colors, etc. On a scale of 1 to 10, if RF is a 4 or 5 and AV is a 7, I'd give SVideo an 8 or 9. See, just like you said if av is a 7, then s-video is only an 8 or 9 above that, then component video is a 10

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time. I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use... S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it. Your vision must not be the best(or your TV sucks), becuase the S-video gives a MUCH sharper image than composite, and all the edge-crawl disappears and color is richer too! I refuse to even use composite, let alone RF, after using S-video, it's that much better. I have actually installed S-video circuits in my VCR, LaserDisc and RCA Selectavision CED players (which only had composite or RF out) becuase I couldn't stand watching them with composite, after getting used to my other equipment like consoles and DVD that had S-video. I've upgraded every item I own with RF or video output to S-video if it didn't already have it! It's THAT much better, IMHO. And it's no easy task to do all that, you HAVE to know a LOT about electronics to do such modifications and the circuits are relatively complicated. Hey i didn't ask for criticism here. For one my tv's don't suck because they are both $1500.00 tv sets and are very clear when used with the right equipment. Two, There is nothing wrong with my vision, i don't know why you have to say things like you did. Anyway, all i was saying, is its no real big deal, i mean i know s-video is better and it does give the better quality. Why do you think i said it was better in the first place? I should know. I've been working on and using video equipment for years.

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time. I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use... S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it. Your vision must not be the best(or your TV sucks), becuase the S-video gives a MUCH sharper image than composite, and all the edge-crawl disappears and color is richer too! I refuse to even use composite, let alone RF, after using S-video, it's that much better. I have actually installed S-video circuits in my VCR, LaserDisc and RCA Selectavision CED players (which only had composite or RF out) becuase I couldn't stand watching them with composite, after getting used to my other equipment like consoles and DVD that had S-video. I've upgraded every item I own with RF or video output to S-video if it didn't already have it! It's THAT much better, IMHO. And it's no easy task to do all that, you HAVE to know a LOT about electronics to do such modifications and the circuits are relatively complicated.

Which gives the better picture? I've been using a set of composite cables for the longest time. I do have an S-video cable here that I don't use... S-video gives the best signal over composite, but to the eye, its not much difference. I'd be interested in which ever one you want to get rid of if your interested and not using it.