ThumpNugget
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Hi everyone.. Just confirming who I have down:
atarimania
atarimac
Fuji-Man
remowilliams
poohbah
allan
tjb (2)
albert
boog
mirage1972
nuy
rdea6
guitarman
bf2k+
shawn jefferson
spookt
mrfish
aland
and then people who have requested via PM somewhat recently but not confirmed here yet:
ibaeza
draugr
holmesa8
iddavis
cyranoj
ggn
ponderosa
user42
mimo
which gives 19 confirmed, another 9 likely, so we are at 28.
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Looks like the Family computing torrent is up now:http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4685169/Fa...ing_(67_Issues)
Great! I finished it just now. It's great to have the whole set. Unfortunately, some of them are in pretty poor shape. Someone used some of them for clip art... lots of pictures cut out, and in some cases I've found that parts of the type-in programs are missing as a result. Oh well, it's certainly better than nothing. Hopefully someday someone can scan some better, more complete magazines to replace these.
Gaaa.. That is too bad that there are missing parts of the magazine. Family Computing was on my list to scan but I only have maybe half the magazines.. Hopefully there is some overlap with the bad ones so I can fill in some of the missing stuff..
The Home Computer Magazine torrent is up: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4690497 ... only the last two magazines have Atari Coverage but still an interesting read. That means Compute! should be next on the list
Also anyone wanting the ANALOG PDF DVDs I'm planning on getting those out next Friday or so.. The request list is here: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=138380
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Greetings people. This post is to gather a list of people interested in getting a copy of ANALOG Magazine in PDF format on DVD. This is the complete series of ANALOG (79 issues) and most of the magazine disks in ATR format (from issue #9 on). These magazines were not all perfect. A couple have waves from water damage, writing and highlighting of some of the code, and mail labels on some the covers. If you have seen the ANTICS these run about the same quality.
This is not done to make money... I like to make a DVD set for myself when I get a complete magazine scan done. Some people also like to have a DVD so I make some extra ones and sell them for material costs only (The CD case, overly expensive printer ink, two archival Taiyo Yuden DVDs, paper, and packaging for the shipping).
There will no doubt be a bit torrent and people putting this up on the web in the very near future (less than a month) so if all you are looking for is the PDFs they will be available on the web soon.
The price for the DVDs will be $7.50 in the U.S. (this includes shipping) and $6.00 + shipping outside the U.S.... I know the shipping for the ANTICS ran about 5.40 to the UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc.. This set will be the same or less (one less DVD).
I want to thank fuji-man for breaking open his sealed issue #1 and scanning it for everyone, luckily I was able to photoshop out the tear stains... Also a gentleman named Mr. Kowatari (yes that is his real name) who has been scanning ANALOG and putting it up on the web. I took several of his issues numbers 40-48 that contained ST-LOGS when I found my ANALOGS were missing them.
The ANALOGs (unlike the ANTICS) have been OCR'd so they can be searched.
One quick word about the pics below: I know they are a bit rough. I am still finishing these up and this was just a quick do-up to get an idea of what it would look like... I know there is stuff that needs to be fixed.. In other words:
The blemish on the front cover is a reflection of my hand....
I know it isn't cut straight, I did it with scissors. My girlfriend has some crafty cutter thing that makes straight cuts as long as I watch desperate housewives with her when she does it....
I know there are misspelled words, missing words, and run on sentences....
I know the shadow on the big "a" is off the page....
I know there is a white ring on the second CD....
The city scene with the Atari symbol as the building will have the city removed (it will just be the big yellow Atari symbol)....
I know I butchered the left edge of the back and cut off poor sally forth, our game, and panak strikes column headers.
... Anyway if you would like a set please let me know (preferably in a reply here) and I will send out and mass PM to confirm and frisk for money
My assumption is that there will be less people that want this than the ANTIC since it is obvious there will be a torrent soon but I'm prepared to make up to 30 sets... My goal is to start shipping these around next Friday (first Friday of February).. I already have Atarimania and AtariMac on the list.
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Looks like the Family computing torrent is up now:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4685169/Fa...ing_(67_Issues)
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If anyone else is looking to get these get them soon.. I am making plans for this hosting account and am going to be cleaning house pretty quickly...
Hopefully if someone puts them up they can mention it here...
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He keeps a web page of magazines he has scanned and where they can be found: http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/magazines/What's annoying is that updates aren't available seperately.
Like I notice on his Run torrent, that this one is updated with all 5 special issues. Just got done downloading the old set that was missing the first special issue. Why on earth couldn't that issue be tormented as a separate issue as well, rather then just as a complete archive. Why do I, along with everyone else who has downloaded the old set, need to fight with damned torrents to download 4.5 gigs of stuff we already have just for 1 additional 60 meg file?
You can do that with these Torrents... Because they are broken down by file you can simply mark the files you want to get.. In your case you want "Run_Issue_Special_1_1985" so when you download the torrent and the file list pops up, highlight the entire list of files, click "unselect all" then check the box by that magazine only... 94 megs later and you are a proud owner of that file... Well... that file and usually a few K of the file directly before and after it in the list since what you are actually doing is selecting the blocks to download.. But you don't have to download the entire thing again.
This doesn't work of course if the files are in an archived zip/rar file(s).
If bandwidth was not not an issue I am sure his site would probably offer the ability to grab an entire magazine run or just click on the magazine thumbnail for a particular issue. There is no perfect (cheap) solution right now... What I would hate to see is ten different torrents each with various pieces missing or requiring people to get multitudes of them to get an entire run.. I really like that he is keeping track of what he has done and publishing it in a centralized place. He can't host them but he makes sure that people can find them.
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...Which reminds me: Scanned a K-Power a couple of days ago and found this little GEM (it was a small picture so the quality is bad)
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You don't have long to wait for Compute! .. The guy that has been scanning it only has one more issue to go. I can't imagine the size it is going to be though... 159 magazines with some running into several hundred pages.. That will run what.. 25,000 pages? (I have no idea how large the later issues were) I noticed he compresses his scans a little more than I do (about 60% of the size) but still that will be 15-18 Gigs I would think.Do you know where we can find these scans?
None of the Compute! scans are available yet. From what I understand the run will be split into four torrents.. Issues 1-41, 41-80, 81-120, 121-159. They should be up by the end of next week though the guy that is putting them up is also putting up the (i think complete) run of Family Computing magazine and a good chunk of the Home Computer magazines so who knows what order and how long that will take... I did not ask where but so far everything he has done has been on piratebay and also posted to alt.binaries.emulators.cbm so that is a pretty good bet
I am sure once they are available the link will pop up here in short order and we can all participate in a PDF torrent orgy.
He keeps a web page of magazines he has scanned and where they can be found: http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/magazines/
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Also here's a vote for Compute magazine. I used to love reading it. I know it covered more than just the Atari, but that was part of the beauty. You could keep an eye on everything.You don't have long to wait for Compute! .. The guy that has been scanning it only has one more issue to go. I can't imagine the size it is going to be though... 159 magazines with some running into several hundred pages.. That will run what.. 25,000 pages? (I have no idea how large the later issues were) I noticed he compresses his scans a little more than I do (about 60% of the size) but still that will be 15-18 Gigs I would think.
Many of the Compute! magazines that were lent to be scanned were put up on eBay as a BIN today... nearly complete set: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=370149964418
$100 to ship.. Ouch!
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This still has a lot of peers
, but is seriously in need of a seeder 
.Looks like the seeder has spooled out to 85% (as of 9:30pm MST) so 15% away from going gangbusters
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As I look into my crystal ball, I see (whatever you call that effect that happens when you point a video camera at a mirror - looks trippy with a web-cam!) and I see people trading these "original copies" of antic/analog pdf cd's on the auction site that took over ebay for jacking up their fees. So if your would 'oh great raider of the star' please, for the sake of prosperity, tell us how many were made in total - so that we may document it on this primitive tablet we call "a thread"
I can't imagine it would be too difficult for someone to print a bunch more of these
For the record I made 30.. I kept two for myself and gave one to my brother.... Of the remaining 27: 19 in the USA, 3 went to the U.K, 2 to Canada, 1 to Greece, 1 to New Zealand, and 1 to Australia. I accidentally sent NuY my first copy with the only difference being that the cover page used was light gray instead of the light tan. One person bought two copies, everybody else just bought one.Shawn Jefferson started a torrent for these: http://thepiratebay.org/user/sjefferson22
... and the dbug guys are planning to put them on the web here: D-Bug a8 Archive
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Thumpnugget, are you going to offer some discs of the Analog magazine as well? I'd be interested and will post it up as a torrent like the Antic ones.As far as the ANALOGS.. They should be ready to go here pretty quick.. Another week or so. I'm still waiting to get the OK from ANALOG folks as well. I noticed they gave a guy from Japan the OK to put the ANALOG PDFs up on the web a few months back so I am optimistic
Can you give a link to where you saw this mentioned?
Allan
Here is the email he has posted on his site. I thought the date was 2008, looking at it now I realize it is 2006 *eek*:
From: Lee Pappas <leehp[at]leepappas.com>
To: "H.F.KOWATARI" <hfkowata[at]n03.itscom.net>
Cc: Jon Bell <xxxxxxx[at]xxxxxxx.net>, Tom Hudson <xxxxxxxxx[at]xxxxxx.com>, Brian Moriarty <xxxx[at]xxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [ANALOG Computing] Scanning the Magazines --- asking for your permission.
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:02:58 -0400
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2)
Hello Hidehiko,
Thank you for contacting me. If you would to scan the issues of
ANALOG and post them on the web, that is OK with me. Thanks for
keeping the ATARI & ANALOG dream alive!
Is this the site you spoke of?
www.cyberroach.com/analog
Also check out:
Regards,
-Lee
If you do a google search on "kowatari pappas" it pops right up.. This guy has about half the ANALOGs already up for download though he doesn't seem to have any plans on doing the first 30 issues or so... He has been scanning them one page at a time by hand for some time..
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Thumpnugget, are you going to offer some discs of the Analog magazine as well? I'd be interested and will post it up as a torrent like the Antic ones.As far as the ANALOGS.. They should be ready to go here pretty quick.. Another week or so. I'm still waiting to get the OK from ANALOG folks as well. I noticed they gave a guy from Japan the OK to put the ANALOG PDFs up on the web a few months back so I am optimistic
I'd like to see the ROMs scanned... I've yet to run across any so unless someone want to cough some up....
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Quick plug: The Analog scans are done.. While I am finishing up the disk ATRs, etc. I want to get ready to scan the next magazine. I am hoping to do AtariUser magazine (The American version) next. I still need two of the magazines to make it a complete set.
Details: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19385
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Well don't ever say I can't resurrect a dead thread
I am looking to complete a collection of AtariUser magazine (the American version) to get it scanned.. I have 19 of the 21 issues:
1 May-91 Yes N/A Good 40 First Issue
2 Jun-91 Yes N/A Very Good 40
3 Jul-91 Yes N/A Very Good 40
4 Aug-91 Yes N/A Very Good 40
5 Sep-91 Yes N/A Very Good 40
6 Oct-91 Yes N/A Very Good 40 Sticker On Front
7 Nov-91 Yes N/A Very Good 32
8 Dec-91 Yes N/A Very Good 32 Sticker On Front
9 Jan-92 Yes N/A Very Good 36
10 Feb-92 Yes N/A Very Good 32
11 Mar-92 Yes N/A Very Good 36
12 Apr-92 Yes N/A Very Good 30
13 May-92 Yes N/A Very Good 32
14 Jun-92 No
15 Jul-92 Yes N/A Very Good 32
16 Aug-92 Yes N/A Very Good 28
17 Sep-92 Yes N/A Very Good 32
18 Oct-92 Yes N/A Very Good 32
19 Nov-92 Yes N/A Very Good 32
20 Dec-92 No
21 Oct-93 Yes N/A Good 26 Last Issue (21 issues total)
I am looking for the Dec-92 and the June-92 issues.
Anyone want to sell/borrow/scan these two issues so this magazine can be archived forever?
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Just got mine today. Awesome package. Here's a disk directory in WinXP of the issues:Sweet! I like the thumbnail view.. I do everything with text only so I had not viewed it like that..
Finally finished up scanning these today
This is the full set thanks to Fuji-Man who broke open his Analog issue #1 and scanned it! Thanks thanks thanks!
I'm just guessing on the dates for issues 4-9 as they only have the year.. I Don't suppose anyone knows the actual dates?
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I'm using ABC 2.6.9. Very old, but works.Anywho, I just tried BitComet .70, and it's exactly the same. 2 seeds, 5 peers, about 2k/sec. Ah well....
Obvious question but are you sure you have your firewall set to allow *incoming* connections from peers on say ports 50,000-60,000 ?? I tried the RUN magazine torrent with the ports blocked and was getting next to nothing.. Turn them on and I'm not blazing fast but currently averaging 90 kB/s on the RUN mags and about 150 kB/s on the Gazette magazines... If any of the seeds/peers block incoming request (router default) and your router firewall does as well you can never exchange any of the content data with that particular seed/peer... at least one side has to allow it.
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I could never do that to my magazines. I'm doing the same thing with my ST magazine collection, but I'm not chopping the binding off, so all the scans have the binding shown. This is one case where magazines like Atari Explorer (which are held together by staples instead of a glued binding) are better since they are easier to place on the scanning bed. I scan 11x17 (2 pages at a time) since it's less scanning work. One road bump in my scans is that they are all in JPEG because the high-speed scanner I use only saves color scans to JPEG. Black and white scans are saved in TIFF. I guess it's to not overload the network. 
I don't have every issue though so my library is full of missing issues. However, I still feel these articles, ads and everything should be archived for safekeeping. I mean, we can still buy computers and stuff from Best, B&C, eBay, etc, but not magazines which have a lot of great info.
I understand how you feel... But looking at the material for Atari magazines and books you are talking at least 35,000+ plus pages to scan them all (never mind the magazines like Compute!, Softside, Family Computing, etc). Any hope of making a dent in getting that much scanned requires a system that requires as little work as possible.
Having each sheet in a separate page protector in a large folder makes it really nice to read anyway.. I can lay down on the carpet and not have to hold pages down or worry about damaging the magazine. This way not only are they being preserved they are being enjoyed
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I enjoy reading the real thing much more that viewing them on a computer... I've been putting each page in a page protector as I've been scanning these and putting them into 3 inch D ring binders. It is so nice to be able to grab a folder and thumb through the pages and know I'm not damaging them.. It does take up a lot of space and costs a bit and is (so) boring to do (4500 sheet protectors for ANTIC - The magazines just pile up until there is a football game on and I'm in front of the tv) but the end result is worth it.
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They are all gone.
Thanks everyone.
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I've sent PMs out to everyone that has expressed interest this time around.. I have *two* left unless I've missed anyone..
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Thanks.. you people are giving me a big head
I'm going to move any talk of pushing out the rest of the Antic DVDs over to the marketplace forum before it gets done for me! -
I, for one, think It'd be great to see the archive(s) hosted on the web. They are such an important part of 8-bit history.Agreed.. I would love to see a site set up like Atarimania does software for archiving printed material like magazines, books, newsgroup letters, manuals, etc..
A great solution would allow a person to thumb though the magazine (with 1920x1200 side by side pages is possible) and also allow some community editing ability to say.. indicate an area on a page and put in the meta data for that area if it is an advertisement, editorial, review, etc.. and also add the content.. That way as the archive grew you could search for any pages from all magazines... Say if I wanted to see all ads from Activision.. Out would pop up a timeline of all pages containing advertisements from Activision.. just scroll the thumbnails with the picture of the page and underneath have the magazine and date... It would be great for doing some interesting research... I'd love to see the "Blackpatch" or "Electronic One" ads in chronological order and see how prices changed overtime.. and other dumb stuff like that
Basically a way to better handle the digitized older printed media that is searchable by eitehr meta-data or content but still has a way to nostalgically (is that a word?) view the material and take in the content.
I've received many emails about getting copies of the ANTIC sets.. I do have 12-15 left. I'll get an exact count and get back with those that emailed sometime this weekend.
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Posted · Edited by ThumpNugget
Hey there... I don't have plans to do more ANTICS... There is a torrent of them out there and they are also now on the D-bug website: http://atari800archive.dbug-automation.co.uk/.
I've given myself about a year to complete what I can of my collection and get it scanned... so I try to get one series complete, scan it, make a DVD, and move to the next one...