Mr.Amiga500
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This thread came in handy. I just ordered a "new in box" 800XL with a "type 1" keyboard!
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Yeah, well check out the never-released "Monkey of the Beast":
(combination of Monkey Island & Shadow of the Beast)

(from my Game Combinations thread)
I was so disappointed this one never made it.

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I'm using an A500 in original case. See some screenshots.What kind of accelerator do you have in there? Also what version of Amiga OS is that? The last I had was 3 and it didn't look that slick! I remember using Ibrowse and Aweb and Amosiac but they were all REALLY slow on my stock cpu A500 (altho it had 8 megs of ram, 1 meg of chip ram, and a hard drive...).
I've got the Viper 520 with 33Mhz 68020 and 8Mb RAM. This is Workbench 3.1 (3.0 ROMs). I made all my own graphics, GUI elements and fonts - optimized for 16-colour.
Notice my "Games" folder. It has the Psygnosis owl from Beast. Shadow of the Beast is the main reason I bought my Amiga in the first place. The colours, music and speed blew me away.
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@Jetboot Jack
Ahhh... now I see where the confusion came from. You were taking my comments personally because you were personally involved in the A8 Shadow of the Beast. I didn't know that and was naturally surprised by your reaction. Sorry if my comments sounded harsh.
Me, i wouldn't have actually played it but i didn't play the Amiga one after a couple of very frustrating hours and i own the C64 version on cartridge and it's only booted once in a blue moon.I played Amiga Shadow of the Beast to death. I played it backwards and forwards. There's a bug if you take the laser gun out of the castle where the main character runs backwards and punches with a dislocated fist in the wrong direction. I completed whole areas with my guy backwards like that.
Seriously, what kind of an Amiga setup are you using to post here?I'm using an A500 in original case. See some screenshots.
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More like you believing in ultra-conservatism... Of course it won't look as good as on the Amiga but why would it necessarily suck?Read my post! I said "it would absolutely suck compared to the Amiga version". How could it not? Shadow of the Beast even pushed the Amiga's capabilities, so how could it possibly get close on an A8?
Why do so many people STILL think all the A8 needs is games with primitive gameplay and graphics? Is there some kind of law preventing coders to try new things and go beyond four-color programs with 1980-looking graphics?Did I say the A8 needs primitive games?? Holy Sasquatch, people!! Read what I bloody wrote. I'm saying the loss of A8 Shadow of the Beast is no great loss because it exists on Amiga - the platform it was meant for. It's not a game that was completely lost. How many times do I have to say that?
With no progress, a platform dies and reactions such as yours are one of the causes of the A8's demise.OK, yes. It was me. I caused the A8's demise.
Let me inform you: The A8 is dead. The C64 is dead. The Amiga is dead. Even I know that and I'm using an Amiga to type this.
You people need to lighten up.
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Always encouraging to hear positive things, really inspiring...If no ports were ever done stuff like Beef Drop or Castle Crisis would have never made it out - or do those comments not apply to those games
Perhaps if you looked at Harelquin's proposed catalog you would see that there were both original games (Plastron, Project Xanthien, Paintz) as well as conversions planned...
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You're overreacting. I didn't say I don't like ports. My point was that Shadow of the Beast is not a game that has been lost forever. It exists in the format it was designed for.
It's not like those many tragically nearly-finished original games that we'll never see. Besides, even if Shadow of the Beast was somehow released for the A8, it would absolutely suck compared to the Amiga version because the A8 (awesome computer it was for its time) is a decade behind Amiga technology. That's like me wishing for Half-Life for my A500.
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Even though Shadow of the Beast is a "Game that wasn't" on the A8, I don't feel that it's any great loss because it's just a failed port of a game originally written for the Amiga. If you want to play it that badly, play it on the Amiga where it was meant to be played. It would be a different story if it was an awesome A8-designed game that never made it.
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My poor wife. She's married to a man stuck in the 1980's!You're not alone.
I'm stuck in the 1980's too. Actually, I'm stuck pre-1985. I think 1985 was the turning point where things started to suck. It went downhill after that. That's my theory anyway. 
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Does Canada have an airforce?If so, then I'm worried about you guys bombing your own hangers
We bomb our own hangars in Canada because our airplanes are so old, this is the only way we can get government funding for new ones. -
Just go to atari.online.pl, dowload all the archive (~255MB after unpacking), and it's probably there.Happy hunting!

Well, I'm using an Amiga on dialup. I don't think I'll be downloading 255Mb anytime soon.

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Adjust the color pot wheel until the colors are correct. That is the little hole on the bottom of the XL, insert a plastic flat tip into there and turn, or open the case and turn the dial by hand.Thanks for the tip! I was wondering what that little thing was. I'll test it when I get a chance. I noticed that the tint doesn't stay consistent, but occasionally flips back and forth. Maybe I've got a loose connection on that wheel. At least now I know where to look.
Don't be worried about removing the chips from their sockets, they're not that easily damaged. Just make sure that you remove them and also reinsert them evenly. You can use an ic removal tool which basically hooks onto each side of the ic so that it gives even force when it's removed. Even if you bend some pins, they should bend back straight again without breaking. The ic legs can take quite a bit of abuse before they break so if you're careful you should have no worries at all....Well Atari chips must be sturdier than Amiga chips because about half of the socketed Amiga chips I removed got their pins warped. I was being extremely careful and I had an IC puller. No matter how carefully I bent the pins back into shape, some still broke or were too weakened ever to remove again without breaking. I tried different methods too - slow enough to make a three-toed sloth look fast, the "gentle wiggle", the fast vertical pull. Results were always the same.
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I have the same problem. I bought an 800XL off eBay and the description said that it "powered on", but they didn't have the cable to connect to TV and fully test it. I thought as long as it "powered on", it'd be fine. I plugged it in and nothing happened. So I bought a second 800XL and tried the power supply from that one in the first 800XL. The light came on, but the screen stayed black with vertical interference bars. So that means that the seller lied. The power supply and the computer were dead and it couldn't possibly have "powered on". It's a pity because the 800XL is in excellent shape. Maybe it's in excellent shape because a dead computer doesn't get much wear from use.
I opened it, checked that all the chips were seated and so on. I guess the only way to find out what's wrong is to swap chips with my working 800XL, but I'm too scared of breaking the pins. Chips usually come out with a jerk which bends the pins and when you bend them back, they break.
My "working" 800XL has a weird tint problem where I have to turn the TV's tint way down to get the right colours.
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What about the CTIA/GTIA difference? Aren't there games that would look weird if trying to run something designed with 256-colour GTIA palette with 128-colour CTIA in the 800?
Hmm... I wonder If I could get away with using only my 800 then. I just can't get into the 800XL or 130XE's looks...I can understand not getting into the 130XE's look, but the 800XL is a thing of beauty. I think it's the best looking 8-bit computer ever made (or maybe the 1200XL). The 800 looks like an old electric typewriter. The fact that it's solid metal is nice, but it's not sleek enough for me. (...sleek computers with aerodynamic shape cut down on that dreaded wind drag when typing at over 200km/h
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@dwhyte
It looks like you've got a disk shortage yourself, so don't worry about it. Thanks for the thought though.

@walter_J64bit
Thanks for the link. Yes, I know about myatari.com, but as I said, I was trying to avoid buying from the US because of customs, exchange, etc..
@gtkakega
Excellent.
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That's it! It was BASIC! The character was the cursor and the flashing was when I turned off the computer.
(uh...now I just need to remember if it was standard BASIC or BASIC XL.)No, I still can't find it. I think I'll give up now before somebody suggests that the game I remember wasn't actually an Atari game, but drug-induced hallucination of a big-headed midget jumping around with a flashlight.
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Crumble crisis?Domain of undead?
Drol ?
Polar Pierre ?
Bristles ?
Captain cosmo ?
Countdown ?
Crumble's Crisis and Domain of the Undead are 1986 and UK. It's not Drol, Polar Pierre, Bristles, Captain Cosmo or Countdown. (all those games have screen flashing?)
It's not Biffdrop, Gateway to Apshai or Caverns of Khafka.
Hey, are you REALLY sure that it wasn't some AMIGA game?My memory is not that bad. Even if I was semi-insane (...and now that I think of it, I might be...) I still own all the Amiga games I ever played so it's not possible to forget them.

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No, it's definitely not Montezuma's Revenge. That's my all-time favourite 8-bit platformer, so I certainly remember that one.
I think I already checked out Mr. Robot, but I'll check it again.
Edit: No, it's definitely not Mr. Robot.
It might not be a "pure" platform game. I don't know if the character had to stand on platforms. For some reason I have a vague idea that it's something like Cloak & Dagger in the movie, where the character can move anywhere on the screen. Maybe my memory is screwed up. I don't think so though because I found a couple other obscure games like Zwark and Sinistar with extremely limited information. This is the last one I have to find and it's driving me crazy.
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Nope, it's not Whirlynurd and it's certainly not Boulderdash or Spelunker. Spelunker does have flashing, but as I said, the flashing is on the actual play screen, not a title or text screen. The character does look a bit like the one in "Journey to the planets", but with shorter legs and longer "torso".
Yeah, I forgot all about atarimania.com for some reason. I just found that site a few weeks ago. It's a great site.
(...except I have to disable custom colours in my browser because background is black and so is some text)Thanks for the help guys and keep those suggestions coming.

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Hmm, look here: http://ekranownia.atari8.info/ - maybe you find this. This is a web page with only atari games screenshots.Thanks, but I think I need more than just a screenshot to help me find it. I was hoping somebody would remember the screen flashing at completion of each screen.
@Rybags
I can't even find a screenshot of Whirlynurd. There are plenty of hits in Google, but they're all those annoying "fake hits". I've visited about 30 sites that claim to have "Whirlynurd cheats, info, screenshots", then when I get there, it says "game not found" or "become a member to view this game" (...and I bet if I became a member, it would say "game not found"!). Those crap sites are the curse of the internet!
Have you got a link?
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I have identified every single Atari game I ever played except one. This is a tricky one because I don't remember many details.
I saw this game in Canada in early 1985, so it was probably made in the US in 1984 or earlier. It was a commercial game on disk (probably pirated) and ran on the 800XL. I vaguely remember the main character was sort of a "bubble-headed" thing with a blocky body - like a circle on top of a square (size was slightly smaller than the Miner 2049er character). I can't remember what the goal was, but I remember the screen flashed (colour cycling of current screen, not new screen) when the mission was completed. New mission was a different screen.
Does anybody have any ideas? I know it's not much to go on.
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Currently got it set up in the lounge, which won't last long, as the GF isn't too pleased!How could anyone not be pleased? The 800XL is beautiful. Are you sure this girl is right for you?

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Here's my problem:
Background:
A few years ago I bid on a 1050 drive and 800XL on eBay (same seller, separate auctions). I won the 1050, but lost the 800XL in the final seconds (d'oh!!). So, for years I just had the 1050. I finally got an 800XL last month. I naturally wanted some disks to go with my 1050, so I started bidding on eBay auctions that had disks. I lost them all. The one I most wanted I thought I won, but lost in the final 7 seconds!
Proposal:
I'm tired of eBay. I could buy some disk software from a store in the US, but I still don't even know if my 1050 works and don't want to waste money on exchange & customs. I just want to throw a bit of Canadian cash in an envelope and get a few 5 1/4" disks with interesting Atari stuff on them so I can test my 1050. OR, if you've got an Amiga, I can also trade Amiga 3 1/2" disks with interesting stuff on them.
Is there anybody in Canada who can do this?
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Ooooh, I love the 800XL and this does remind me of it. I wish it could run OSX. It would be an abomination to run Windows on an XL-look computer. (Linux is not much of a thrill, either)
I was thinking of making a custom XL-look case for my Amiga 500. I was going to call it the 500XL.

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I totally agree that modern electronics, computer hardware and media are crap compared to the 1980's.
I use a 20-year-old Amiga 500 as my primary computer and have used it just about every single day for an average of 4 hours/day for the last 5 years (previous 10 years in storage, first 5 years average 2 hours/day). The only thing that ever went wrong was a broken plastic floppy eject button in 1992. I replaced it with a broccoli tab and had no problems since. The Windows notebook computer I was forced to used at work completely died and had to be replaced after only 2 months! The replacement computer had to have the harddrive replaced three times because of failures. In 2002 I briefly owned a Windows sub-notebook, but it also died within one month and had to be returned.
I use a 1989 Commodore 1084 monitor with my Amiga (so it's also used every single day) and have had no problems. I bought a new TV in 2005 and after only one month it started screwing up and became totally unfocused and blurry.
Of my many original DD 3.5" (880K) Amiga floppies, I think only one has a read error in one block (affecting one file). The rest of the data can still be read. Of my 20 or so CD-ROMs, I get read errors about 20% of the time - and it's totally inconsistent. Some discs aren't even recognized. My DVD player constantly gets read errors and I have the torture of watching a corrupted movie with the painful knowledge that it will only get worse. The DVD player eventually crashes and I have to unplug it to "reboot" because it won't respond when you try to turn it off.
Yes, modern technology sucks.

Shadow of the Beast & Menace for A8
in Atari 8-Bit Computers
Posted · Edited by Mr.Amiga500
Thanks. I don't want to go too much off topic here because this thread is supposed to be about A8 Beast, but with your A500+ specs you should be able to have a Workbench setup that blows mine away. The two things I need (well, besides more colours) are RAM and speed and you've got more than me. I'm just using the standard enhancement programs like VisualPrefs, Birdie, TitleShadow.
In that case, your ASS is probably bigger than my ASS.
I've got about 1400 Amiga floppies, but besides using them as frisbees, they're not much use. All my stuff is on HD and I can download anything I don't yet have.