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try mikes arcade.com they have dk jr boards and high score pcbs and double dkong mods too I would get one there cause you would know it would work.... it would be expensive but not to bad.

I dont know whats wrong w atari age but it would not update posts untill the next day thats why i made multiple posts to a post I already posted to!!!

Pacman Mini Plug play device..

I decided to make a new topic on Plug and Play devices here is some pictures of my plug play pacman and my atari joystick on the pacman Joystick I included pictures of where to hook a 6vdc power pack to pcb... I decided to show the serial # 2194-TN-N its a Pacman Plug and play. also there is pictures of the 1 pl paddle witch i added 2player paddles an original atari paddle set.

I actually bought one of these they are cool I play it a lot it seems its exactly like the regualr pacman ones but smaller and more collectable I havent seen one again so i am glad i got it..

I just used a compaq computer power supply cause i needed 5v for the pong unit steady 5v w no ripple makes the paddles not move around the screen by them selfs and i needed 12v dc for the monitor for my pong unit... you can use any computer power supply on new ones the green wire on the big connector gets gnded to wake power supply up older 286/486 ones come on when you switch the power switch on... I also like the computer power supply cause if it shorts out it can just be unplugged and plugged back in wout damage from quarters rolling around the cabinet.. here is some pics

yeah just buy it then look for a 6v dc power pack and rip apart solder the power pack to the battery terminal input wires and you have a instant plug play atari joystick that actually works i suggest you buy a extention cord so you can actually plug the power pack into the outlet and still have the thing infront of the tv as most power packs are short wired but for $2.95 thats less than the one i got for $4.95 so youres would be ½ off to mee I would get it just to get the built in games..

here is my homebrew desktop PONG unit the unit is made from a normal atari Pong unit the last picture is what it looked like before I modded it although the PONG unit is intact the one inside the homebrew arcade unit is actually a differnt one but was the same exact model!!! I never made a coin door so i have to unscrew drywall screws to get to the $ I dont play very mutch since all my freinds played it ONCE and then said lame but at 1st they wanted to play I had to fork out the 25¢ but didnt mind I was thinking i could sell it but then thought it would make a better peice of furnature than a sellable device besides noone plays pong anymore at least not in the bar .. But I bet if i could have made one of those a long time ago it would have made some real $. the paddles I used came from a local thrift store They used to have a whole box I said hmm I always wanted to make my own PONG unit so i did... the box of paddles has sold out ... I luckally got two before they were gone... the good news is even though i didnt know the compaq power supply was sideways till now is that now i know it is mabie some day i will mount the power supply but since it never moves I dont worry about it to mutch I do however still like the orange screen I was going to put space invaders in it but it wont fit and I didnt have the \keychain when i made the project.. the real reason did it was to use the 25¢ unit.... I got the 2nd pong unit from the same good will in hopkins MN both were less than $10 I think one was only $2.00 how could I pass that up!!!..

sounds like you have a 1st generation maganavox oddsy1 witch had joysticks w two paddles one for up down and one for left right so you could take the joysticks out and either replace the pots or re adjust the wipers on the pots then put the joysticks back in the panel... this would require you to unsolder joysticks modules and fix the pots then replace and resolder wires so i would lable all input wires as to what there connected to now w small peices of tape so you know what wires goto when you remove joystick or paddles to repair or clean them the wipers on the pot variable reistors can be rebent down but be carefull not to break the wiper but if you clean w paper towel and windex then rebend the wiper in the pot then put pots back together then replace to game unit it will work like a new paddle for a atari!!! most joysticks pre 1982 were just two pots one for up down and the other for left right but now they opticle but some computer joysticks still use analog pots!!..

I modded a tv to permanltly take a keychain and put a zenith Cable box rf modulator inside the battery compartment pic2 I forgot to post the pictures of my tv mod 1st pic is paddle infront of tv its stealing power from in menu. 2nd is zenith rf mod. 3rd pic is of warlords one of my favouirte games.. even though it does suck compared to the PADDLE jakks version it still is a cool game for keeping the tv instead of throwing the tv away I now have a use for the tv again since the analog tuner inside the tv is useless At least i had a reason to Steal A rf modulator from a cable box... the tv is only b/w but it gets a good picture w the rf mod going directly into the antenna connection soldered plus it still gets regular tv for now at least. SO even though it cost $14 I figured it gave the tv a new lease on life and since the keychain modlue battery compartment steals power from the tv's power pack I dont ever need batteries again. Plus the tv is 12v and i could run off car lighter plug or 1amp hour battery so they are the perfect mod for this tv when and if i find the asteroids keychian/atrari joystick I will post a update picturre to this post the previous post I forgot to opload pictures to so i put them here.. I didnt mean to say I wasnt mad that the games sucked I just figured they were trying to get them out for that christmas season cause in 2006 Atari hype was rampent w the plug play joysticks and the FB II's so I think the keychains must have been relesased to early before they could be rev F instead of rev a witch we all know sucks but since they failed basic fun probably lost money on the whole keychain so they probably wont release a fixed version but that would be cool if you could buy a 1 game keychain for $10 that actually has a REAL game on it I would buy one.. as far as the realistic look of the keychain they look real enough.. what do you expect from a keychain it wouldnt fit into a gumball machine cause of the battery pack so if not for the batterypack crock the game probably would have been a better version but they probably ran out of budget mabie they made the meny 1st and ran out of time before christmas to revamp game versions or the sound emulation jsut wouldnt fit into the small form factor who knows But you can bet it had to do w $ remember if the keychain costed $25 it proibably would have had 10 games in it the fact they had some at target for $14 but the keychains i only saw at wallmart I was happy they had them cause I didnt even know they had even made a keychain so they suck but at least in 20 years i can say i have a working Atari keychain witch actully plays warlords and break out as for the pong w out 2 players why even bother to turn it on..

just do what i did rip off the joystick throw it away and the rubber ring too then take a REAL atari joystick and wire it to the buttons since the atari joystick has a longer cord the wires hanging out shouldnt matter if its for PLAYING then the keychain wont matter I did this w a gemstick a atari compatible knock off atari joystick and it works great the menu and reset buttons are intact and i use it w my b/w tv w the built in zenith rf mod built in so I can change from asteroids w the modded atari joystick permantly soldered to the mini keychain joystick and fire button inputs and swap to the paddle keychain leaving the video /battery pack permantly soldered to the TV's tuner 5v line I stole the 12v for the zenith rf mod from the input power pack for the tv its b/w but asteroids color only makes the rock colored anyway and since the tv signals are going static I figured the keychain would be a good hack/mod for this tv I decided to take some pictures I cant seem to find the joystick but If I find it after my brother remodels his basement I will post picture I did however find a joystick a centipede /yars revenge in the package oh whell at least the tv still has a use now ..

that would be cool but if you could figure out how to produce a product for $14 that actually woudl do that then tell them how to do it I like the FB II idea I dont know why they didnt just make a joystick 10 player type w a SD stick hole and a 2nd joystick port or jsut reuse the FB case It would be nice just to beable to buy flashback joysticks even w out games to get the joysticks for my atari collection but to expect a company to produce a product from idea to production using cheap china proccess would probably be way harder then we would think i bet it cost more than it was worth to make those keychain joysticks but on the other hand the sound in fb frogger cart sound same to me so youre all right wtf couldnt they just get more sound into asterioids I think i know why 1st off the joystick breaking whell DUH ITS a keychain about $3 worth of a keychain probably was subposed to cost $20 witch failed mysrably cause we could care less about the keychains cause we snapped up the flashback II's mabie its a good thing i didnt open the 3rd keychain cause its still mint in the package witch is what i bet they expected them to be anyway I bet they ran out of memmory cause they had to make that fuken stupid menu witch i think was the dumest thing they could ever have done they could have just had a game select menu that simply said basic fun then game 1 game 2 to let all extra avalible memmory for sound I bet that that asteroids game is 3k cause its not the same you cant have as many rocks on the screen at the same time and the sound never stops the sound emulation is just lame mabie if they picked a game not so suckky like milipede witch used a little more memmory than asteroids mabie they could have used the FB asteroids version witch i know is 8k cause my bootleg REal cartridge can be swapped and it dont even lock up.. so I agree the games could have had more better sound and the joystick could have just as easly had a namco pacman mini type joystick witch not the same as a real atari joystick would have worked better but I think they were just what they were subposed to be a desk item paper weight or keychain the joystick should have just had a long rubber peice instead of the plastic witch just breaks off in pocket at least the paddle can be used as a keychain at 1st i thought the paddle was cool untill i had to plug it into the battery pack witch i had to take apart and fix the switch and I even had to replace some of the crappy china wires witch broke and needed soldered again I did however like the battery design witch would be good for a camping trip but didnt like the crappy asteroids game they could have just put adventure in there its only 4k but mabie the paddle and keychian games are actually nes ports!!!!!!!!!!!!! chomped onto the F/b menu system as a playable menu game instead of loading stella into a nes cart memmory hole witch explanes the crappy sound and the lame game play..... why didnt they at least get the sound right for asteroids and not have 2 games I would have been satified w asteroids if it was REALe emulation and yars revenge on the FB II the other yars game locks up all the time and deluxe asteroids flips on some of my tv's anyway I just like the keychains for modding purposes and got exactly what i expected a puny keychain w a puny game.. I didnt even expect the games to be as crapy as they were But the asteroids game is kind of fun HMM i wonder what the crappy original atari pacman would have sounded like.. I bet you could pass threw the ghosts.. I think basic fun should just let us download a emulator for the keychains as a reward for having to settle w more games instead of real emulation AT least the FB II lets you put a cart hole and even gives you the pin outs and it actually works the sound even sounds right.. but what do you expect from a $10-15 keychain you have to remember they had to design the thing prototype it make the custom chip blob and then make the button menu reset button and the battery/video pack and they also had to make pal/ntsc too I was amazed the product even made it to production let alone survived wall mart long enough to actually be a product.. whell i guess ET did the same thing but I wouldnt buy et even if you paid me to..

You're right ... those of us who care that these are poorly-made and untrue to the original games have already made up our minds not to buy. But even those who don't care about those things should still refuse to buy them because of the unfair comments Jacob Rose cited above. Any company that spreads lies like that doesn't deserve anyone's hard-earned money, even if it is only $15 to $20. True, but people are being ripped off, and I still think it's only right to do as much as possible to get the word out. Fortunately, nobody has to scour the AtariAge boards to be duly warned: if you do a Google search for the words atari keychain right now, this thread shows up at the top of the list. It's possible that those who don't even know about AtariAge can find their way here just by doing a little research. wow i cant belive youre actually giving them crap think about the fact that the chip that they fit into the keychain is so small the i was impressed they actually got it to work PLus the fact that have you ever made a product and got it to production and then sold it to wallmart I bet that would be harder than you thought anyway I like the mini paddle game I know the sound sucks for asteroids but hey its a $14 keychain what do you expect from a single chip blob besides i needed a small video game to put inside my 4 inch b/w tv witch will be useless after june cause the tuner is now worthless I decided to put a Zenith cable box rf modulator inside the battery compartment and then hook a keychain battery compartment permanantly into the tv so now i can just plug the paddle into the tv and it steals power from the tuner and I also took a crappy gemstick atari compatible joystick and fixed the crappy asteroids joystick witch broke 10 minnutes after opening the thing my brother broke it instantly I basicly knew that would happen and actually expected it I think they thought they would be more of a collector item than thinking someone would actully play the thing or even open it thats why my other paddle is mint inside the plastic not opened and i plan not to open it the asteroids joystick I ripped appart to see the blob and was not impressed exept that they got the whole thing onto that mini chip I did however find two test jumpers one just makes it go black or PAL mode and the other one makes orange and brown rainbow pattern so i decied to hook the joystick keychain to the bootleg real atari gemstick SO now it has a regular sized original type joystick and it is actaully easyer to play the game is slow as hell and has no difficulty settings and millipede sucks and centipede would have been a better game to choose you would have think they would have just used adventure witch at least would have made the keychain worth buying I only bought mine cause wallmart was remodling and i thought they were clearing them out and thought cool mabie those would be cool to hook to the b/w tv I dont play them anymore and probably wont uness i get super board.. I do like the paddle version cause the break out game is kind of fun

From what you've described, I agree that the potentiometers in the paddle are in need of cleaning. Take a look around this site for the keywords "paddle" and "jitter" to get some ideas on how people go about cleaning potentiometers in the Atari 2600 paddle controllers. Your potentiometers are likely to be very similar. If youre very carefull you can use a snippers to bend the cover off the pot then whipe ring w paper towel be carefull then carefully bend the whiper down a little more then wipe this off carefull not to kink metal then when you put back to gether use a large needle nose to bend tabs back this will work like at least one time and make pot tight as new mabie better than new... this will definanlty fix the gitter problem.... mostly the wipers get carbon gunk on them making it slip cause the grease they use to make wiper spin more easly gets on the wiper and all over the pot ring making a carbon mess and making the pot gitter I have done this with my atari paddles and some volume pots before and it always makes it work way better just dont bend wiper to far as it will scrape and break then you are sh out of luck although you could always just get a atari paddle off ebay and take the 1meg ohm pots out and use them in the pong unit witch would probably work just as good as the ones it came with..

It would seem in minnesota In the summer and other times of the year the atari joysticks disspaier but near christmas they mysterously re appier . ALSO I have actually done a hack to the one player paddle and the menu in the game says p2 not avalible but since i soldered the p2 jumper and added a real atari paddle to both inputs and unhooked the built in one it works in 2 player games its cool all i did was remove the fire button and use that hole for the 2nd player and the p1 inputs there is also a PAL jumper.. anyway most of the games are original atari games and you can get insturction from those from atariAge also the orignal 2600 warlords game seems to be more fun than the arcade version .. circus atari works way better w REAL atari paddles... also i noted the plug play paddle uses reverse connections and solderes the two connections on the pot together witch normal atari's use only the two with out soldering the end of the pot leaving one connection on the pot unconnected.. I didnt notice a differnce but decided to leave it like they had it .. using a repaired atari paddle makes the games way more fun than the crappy paddle that comes w the plug play noting the one they used was not even a 1meg ohm pot witch makes all the difference in playing atari Paddle(0) games you always want REAL thing not a 500OHM but a real atari 1meg ohm pot... I bet you could swap out hardware and solder a real atari paddle to the connector the one you have and you would notice a REAL performance inprovement... .. anyway the color/bw option works as is the diff switches too ...

I have a COLECO PACMAN AND A FROGGER the pacman uses batteries and the frogger has a power pack soldered to it I do remember as a kid having a pacman (coleco) i got from good will it lasted for 1 year normal w a power pack and a 9v clip soldered into motherboard and lasted a while then p1 joystick failed now remember the top part was broke off for a long time and battery case either so it was basicly a flat device w the bottom of the circut board exposed and only the pizeo speaker dangling under the black electrical tape i coverd the bottom w then one day the speaker was broken off by a kid and they gave it back saying it still works you can still hear the ghosts I said no way then i listened my self HMM coooooool you can HEAR The ghosts inside the TUBE IT SELF this was cool no it was not hearing the ocean but actually hearing the speaker input going into the 70volt tube heater lines witch is cool cause you could actually hear pacman.. I stole p2's joystick connections and fixed p1 as i never played p2 games very mutch since it takes 4 c batteries I knew it took 6v so i just decided to use a 9v to see what happened as i thought it just made it brighter but the 9v died to fast so got a lithuim 9v witch lasted longer but to get hours of play just use a lantern battery or you could use nickel hyryied c's I dont like c's cause they die to fast an I prefer the power pack option I have since lost the old pacman pcb but I do have a crappy original pacman pcb complete w no battery cover but the rest is intact the stickers are pealing and its a little dirty but the plastic screen is still clean and i have a sound switch in the back to mute the annnoying sound if needed although i think the sound is the best part of the game.. The frogger cabinet has a small crack in the plastic screen but doesnt hinder play to mutch . the pacman has no connections to the battery terminals now but does have the blue and red wires sticking out of the battery hole i think the red one is + and the blue one is (-) ... SO if I was you i would just steal the bottom case part for the battery connections or just solder a 6v to 9v power pack into the pcb you could also take a broken device witch has a good power pack and break the plug off the pcb and just solder that to the motherboard then you could plug the power pack in and make a super small whole so you could put the battery cover back on and if using batteries you just put connector under the cover in the butt of the batteries.. GOOD LUCK..

why dont you just use the original joystick and just use some dry wall screws to attach to a hole in cabinet so you cant see anything exept the stick and ball!! this way you can KEEP THE TWIST FEATURE I assume the twist feature is just a left right switch .. GOOD LUCK..

On the controlers they are easyer to play w cause they have more reliable rubber buttons but are actually 6 times thinner plastic take one apart and compare the thickness of the plastic !!! .. PS . did they hook up the color/bw switch I used a old 2600 to mod mine and put it inside then used the power supply I modded the color/bw switch for the built in and cart games switch then i used the existing diff switches and the ch3/4 switch for bw/color since the FB has no rf and composite out i used the ch3 switch for the FB's color/bw switch!! also i used the broken 2600 board that i put the fb into to solder the cart connector onto the Fb this was a major pain in the but for soldering cause i had to scrape all of the pins off the motherboard from the original 2600 then I decided to use the existing switches and the joystick ports witch was a nother pain in the but .. It does work and i am happy w my mod.. I also tried it w a non b version fb and totally screwed it up so now i have 2 FB shells cases one is in good condition and the other one has the sticker for the buttons peeled the other one looks ok so if you need a case witch hasnt been butchared pm me and I might part w it for cheap.. My flashback works now does youre flashback built in and cart button hook to a real 2600 switch like mine does cause this can make for some real cool FLASHING NOT the power button cause that can be bad but i mean flashing from cart to built in games If you pick built in 1st then goto cart it works better I do this w missile command cause its cool cause its the same game you can switch between built in and cart w not mutch noticed but if i do it w my cart modded asteroids cart i made my self its cool the rocks simply change from rocks to the aw rocks the best flash is to pick a game like caverns of mars on the flashback built in memmory on 1st then switch to a game like missile command. it works best if you use a 2600 color/bw switch double pole double throw with single inpute i mean scratch pcb so both sides of the switch are seprate this causes a glitch in the switch making it possible to move the switch at the bottom color mode up just nudge it and I think one side disconnects leaving the other side on witch is werid but if you move it just right it goes between both built in and say missile command and is like pushing flash button in stella I once saw a screen that said this space intent;ionally left empty i noted they spelled the word intentionally wrong witch was funny to me I wondered if they planned a extra game and or i had flashed between builtin and cart so many times before it locked up i made it think the built in memmory was empty... mabie they were planning a game key and decided to make a FB instead...

I noticed this the other day when watching tv on my laptop i noticed it has a LAGGGG a delay worse than a lcd tv it even makes the audio on the computer delayed so you miss frames on the atari I loaded descaler and it helped a slight bit but not enough It did how ever let my play a pal game cause i could select japan pal for the tuner type witch helped stop flipping good luck I cant remember weather i fixed the issue but since i got a nother tv in my room i unhooked the tv tuner I dont have cable so there is no reason to even use it I only used the tv tuner to change channles fast and never thought of using it for atari I always just used a vcr then would use the computer tv tuner with the VCR on pause or kept rewinding it this way i could snap a pic on computer easyly you could use a computer camera too... I do remember when i had paltalk i switched to the tv tuner and had atari in my private room I never played cause my tv tuner is old and the lag is to mutch GO DLUCK THOUGH... my card had no adjustments for 29.999 I had a hauppauge witch was old.

You have to successfully complete the first cavern to gain access to the second. if you wait in the lower cavern the long up down one wait for ballons then you can get the ring the cat and the diamond witch you have to Take a leap of faith like indiana jones i think its the 2nd one from the top on the right side then jump from almost the edge to the diamond room then its a pain cause you have to go up the left side to get to the wiggly cat guy then a door opens up harry jumps like more than 5 times then door opens he goes threw and you are on level 2 witch to me would seem to take a nother week to finish mabie 5 months.. level 2 is harder...

you cant jump the squrell you have to go under all the way around but if you were to get on the other side then you can pass this is impossible unless you cheat ... witch you cant do w out w atatri800 ... wish you luck ...

You got that right. I still haven't made it very far in the second cavern. This is mostly due to those bats that fly very eratic patterns. I just can't seem to figure them out. if you walk off screen the bats reset! this can be teadus and a pain in the but I now remember the 2nd cave from the 800 witch is exactly the same rom as the 5200 as a 5200 is just a 400/800 w out keyboard!!....

can you explane this w a video if possible or push prt screen w stella and save some snaps I know you cant get the squirel rodent from the right side but you can from the left also do you mean stay on the bottom and take balloon directly across..???.. did you get the diamond on the atari800 and get to level II???

I love pitfall II I just finished II on the atari 2600 emulator I kind of cheated using a hackmatic version i hacked so the head on pitfall harry was shorter this helped when confronting bats and birds although the birds couuld still hurt you .. I figured out that on the 2600 there is a whole level II missing as it locks up when you finish game!!!!!! so if you want to play more download pitfall II for the Atari800 and play past the diamond and the stick guy and get diamond and all other things and a level opens up to a nother level where frogs dont just jump they move across screen this is defantly where a emulator could come in handy especally where you could use the save state feature I remember playing pitfall II on the atari800 for 7 days straight I never finished it I assume it would take a month or 2 2 finish pitfall II 8bit I still like the original atari 2600 version of pitfall cause it brings back memmorys and is still fun I didnt know till today that the 2600 version only had the 1 level I never thought of using hackomatic to hack pitfall but the idea came to me and i said hmm I wonder if the 2600 version has 2 levels whell it dont that didnt take from the fun of trying though I think i still have some save states in my stella on my big machine with the hack it only took me 15 minnutes with out the hack it probably would have took me 2 hours just to climb the left latters where the bird/bat bird/bat bird bat level is anyway I love both games I am glad activision decided to make the 2600 version almost exactly like the 800 /400 version exept the music in the 800 is slight better . \\\ PS Note when playing atari 2600 Pitfall II if you increase the power going into the atari the music speeds UP.!!! oh before i forget On the atari 800 I used to cheat!!! I had a drywall screw in the door switch then i would unplug the cart to the left leaving the right side slightly unhooked then I would push forward and I could walk left then FALL threw the walls then the music would go haywire it was cool although it had a sence of perfection to the haywire music and if you got a gold bar it would correct the music sometimes you would be swiming where there was no water above and below a level then you could goto the middle of the screen and kind of pop up and jump on latter witch was not there then fall back down in the water moslty you could swim left and the game would correct it self I did the cheat cause i DIDNT know when i got game from goodwill at 1st that the balloon level even existed then one day somone told me to wait for the ballon I said what balloon then i finnaly figured out the balloon and was able to play not having to cheat I was kind of mad i never had a manual for the game but it was still fun to play. ALso Once i got to deliver a package to Activision on bury drive in Eden Praire MN one day I told one of the employees I loved Pitfall and I also told them I loved Pitfall II and played the game till i got to the 2nd level I also told them about the cheat and they said HOW did yo do that I told them I didnt know about the balloons untill somone told me about them they said wow I didint know people still used atari's anymore I said I still use my 800 a lot,.. I asked if there was a 3rd level and she said youll just have to Play to find out .

Thank you its cool . any info on what kind of file to send to burner is it bin2hex.exe at 7,1,none in intel hex then switch burner to binary and push program I am confused. or i dont know how to erase the ram in burner cause i keep getting the last chip i copied 1:1 HMM mabie i should e2 erase a chip then read it then try downloading from computer cause i would be filling empty ram ..