Rev. Rob

I have to agree. Considering you'd spend close to $300 on the games (a third of that if you skip Daytona) plus the cost of the modem and the Saturn, what's another Ben Franklin? Equipment for fun times, that's what. Last time I saw Daytona Netlink on eBay it sold for over $1100. I am still kicking myself for not ordering 10 of them when it came out. D'oh!

Ahh, that's good to know. I might have to check that out. Ok I disagree with Virtua Fighter, Space Harrier, and Afterburner. VF is amazing for what they did on the 32X, but that doesn't make it a good game (just my opinion there). Afterburner and Space Harrier are nice, but they were ancient arcade games by the time the 32X came out. I mean the Genesis has a great arcade perfect version of Frogger, but that doesn't make it one of the best games for the system. Anyway, you've got 39 released 32X games (counting the JPN and EUR exclusives). If you go with all 10 you've listed (including the two I listed earlier) that only comes to around 25%. So that leaves 75% of the library being crap. if you take out the three I have an issue with then its 82% of the library. Neither one of those numbers is particularly good, wouldn't you agree? BTW I've played more 32X games than I care to admit. I even beat Cosmic Carnage (which I'm not proud of) Tempest I have to really disagree with you on VF, Space Harrier, and After Burner. I think the 32X version of VF was a little better than the Saturn version, and despite their age, Space Harrier and Afterburner were still great - the best home ports at the time by far. Certainly they're not crap. There are 39 games for 32X. Let's divide them into two categories: Crap and Not Crap. Not Crap: After Burner Blackthorne DarXide FIFA Soccer 96 Gekijoban Sangokushi IV DOOM Golf Magazine Presents: 36 Great Holes Starring Fred Couples Knuckles' Chaotix Kolibri Metal Head Mortal Kombat II NBA Jam T.E. Shadow Squadron Space Harrier Star Trek Starfleet Academy Bridge Simulator Star Wars Arcade Supreme Warrior The Amazing Spider-Man: Web of Fire Virtua Fighter Virtua Racing Deluxe World Series Baseball starring Deion Sanders WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game Crap: BC Racers Brutal: Above the Claw Corpse Killer Cosmic Carnage Fahrenheit Motocross Championship NFL Quarterback Club Night Trap Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure Primal Rage RBI Baseball '95 Slam City with Scottie Pippen T-Mek Tempo Toughman Contest WWF Raw Zaxxon's Motherbase 2000 So, that leaves us with 17 games that are total crap, and 22 games that aren't total crap. So, officially, the majority of 32X games weren't total crap. And ya, 32X is better than Jaguar.

Link That's so bad ass. Too bad it's not a viable product. Next time he should make a car with a wider wheel base to avoid wipeouts.

Good to know. While 90% of the 32X games suck, I still play Knuckles Chaotix and Blackthorne on occasion. Tempest C'mon, 90% is a little high.

Bad ass! And, what we're dying to know is, how much did it cost you?

This one sold for only $186. I've seen the Sega module go for $200 alone, and the whole unit for $1000 or more. At that price, who cares about shipping costs?

Promos are not really that rare. There are always a few on Ebay. The question is if it still is originally sealed or has been opened and played but in good condition. I myself wouldn't pay more than $100, but that's just me. Plus, a lot of times, it's impossible to tell if it's a reseal job or not.

While I agree that the question is too complex to answer, you can get a rough idea by pulling the SEC filing of those companies that where publicly traded. Keep in mind that most of them, like Imagic, for example, were privately held.

DROIDARENA

In that article, he says: This is complete BULLSHIT. The best thing about the friggin Netlink is that you DO NOT NEED AN ISP AND YOU DIAL YOUR FRIEND DIRECTLY WITH A MODEM CALL. The ISP is only for browsing, which was completely outside of gaming. It's shameful - absolutely shameful - that they'd get it that wrong on an article about Netlink. They suck. Hmmm... it looks fixed to me. Meant to say "analog phone service."

I have to admit, that thing looks cooler than I remember. However it felt like a piece of junk holding it.

I am going to watch the whole thing!!

Article: Discovering the World Through a Sega Saturn NetLink

Fantastic!

http://www.daniweb.com/news/story301460.html Shit I could've told you when I was 12.

This confusion is sort of what I'm talking about. The people you described are either rich kids, or they are people with jobs, who just happen to be big fans of video gaming, not to mention have a big pile of unplayed games. You can play casually and still be into hardcore games. Like I said, a hardcore gamer is somebody who spends most of their time playing video games. If all the hardcore gamers you know are buying so many games, how the hell do they afford them? In other words, once you're out of college it's dangerous to say you're a hardcore gamer, because you're admitting to being unemployed and that you don't go outside often, because you're too busy playing video games all the time. I own 2 of the 3 systems, and have a DS. I also have a gaming PC rig. Due to other responsibilities, like a job, wife, my daughter, I simply cannot be a hardcore gamer. I have to play my "hardcore" games on a casual basis. So, yeah, it's the people who play casually who have the money to spend regularly on games, because they have jobs and can afford to. You're confusing casual games with casual gamers, and hardcore games with hardcore gamers. There's a difference. Guess what? You're a hardcore gamer. Someone who's "hardcore" doesn't spend most of their time playing games. They may spend a portion of their free time playing games. A hardcore gamer: Participates on online communities like this one Goes to gaming events Like arcades Owns more than one console Plays games as a hobby Plays more than just casual games Is well informed about the gaming industry and gaming history You can't be a causal gamer and play hardcore games. Casual gamers would never play a game like Disgaea. Casual gamers: Play games socially Invest in just one console at a time Don't have a PC gaming rig Only buy and play casual games (sports game, Grand Theft Auto, et cetera) Has never heard of Odyssey, Channel F, or Vectrex, and thinks Atari or Nintendo invented video games Is not well informed about the game industry Sound to me like you're a hardcore gamer in massive denial because you have some bias against what you think a hardcore gamer is. "Spends most of their time playing games..." GTFOOHWTBS!!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0826516017?ie=UTF8&tag=atariage&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0826516017 I was thinking about picking this up. It appears to be a psychological look at gaming nostalgia. I've never heard of it it before, and I wanted to know if anyone had read it.

I played this a lot at E3. I posted some impressions earlier, but meant to give a proper review. Here you go: And here's some video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6pj2U0jB8

PlayStation 2

So, back in June Take-Two and 3DR settled their case and the petition were dismissed with prejudice. The terms of the settlement have not be reveled, but does anyone think there was a deal to finish DNF?

What do you mean? Hardcore gamers, at least all of the ones I know, spend more money than any casual gamer. They each have two, if not all three, of the current generation of consoles, buy at least one new game a week, download a shit-ton of games on XBLA and the like, and have a handheld or two on top of that. The casual gamers I know play nothing but sports games, Rock band, or Wii Sports. They buy one console and maybe three or four games a year. It's not that hardcore gamers don't spend money. It's that games that appeal to only the hardcore crowd, like strategy RPGs and spaceflight sims don't appeal to the casual, so there's a smaller pool of customers for such games, so small a pool that they just aren't worth making. Fortunately, with the advent of XBLA a lot of amazing games that normally wouldn't see the light of day are coming out all the time.

There needs to be a dropjaw emoticon. I can't believe that final price.

Have you looked into an XBLA release?

You really need to take another look at those libraries if you think that's true. That would depend on the games yeah. Something like Unreal sucks on the Dreamcast. It's not the systems specs at fault, but rather the controller which wasn't designed for that type of game. For most games though, unless it was on the Xbox or something I'd like the DC version better though. Most of the really good Dreamcast games were exclusive.

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