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  1. Posted

    Hi.

     

    I am using Milan060 for years now and I would never give it away! About your scsi-problem: You need a special scsi card driver from Michael Schwingen. This is with hardware key, you can only use it on one Milan. It's looking for the Milan's serial number. No chance to have it work with simply using HDDRIVER! If you have scsi driver installed then you can use HDDRIVER. But you can use ide to scsi adaptor anyway!

     

    Best regards,

     

    Chris

     

    PS: If someone would build new Milans, I would buy one, even in our days!

  3. Posted

    This is what I thought, but I cant save????????????? I'll have a look in the trusty instruction manual, I cant imagine there not being a save option..

     

    You do not need to save. The game does for you. If you finished one (or maybe some) levels, the game memorizes that and you can select that level at startup. That level wasn´t available before (if your game was new) and so it can be called a savegame feature ;)

     

    The only bad thing I can say about AOTMP is that it has no background music. If you complete the game, there´s that rock ´n´roll music playing and they tell you that no animals were harmed while making this game beside... penguins...

     

    :)

  4. Posted

    This may be a bit of an odd offer, but I've got a brand new minty copy of Battlesphere that I think I played all of once (I was never a fan of the game) that I'd like to trade towards a Falcon 030. I've also got some other rare Jaguar related goodies (such as a voice modem and a Catbox) that I can trade as well.

     

    I'm not a huge Jaguar fan (blasphemy, I know), and I've always wanted to play around with a Falcon. This seems like the best way to kill two birds with one stone.

     

    Tempest

     

    Hello,

     

    maybe I can give you what you want! Contact me at falcon<at>debitel<dot>net I have lot´s of falcon stuff, just tell me what you want and I think we could make a good deal for us both!

     

    Best regards,

     

    Christian

  5. Posted

    How is Water Ski anyways? I have never played it but debated picking it up, it is the only Atari Water Skiing game I can think of....

     

    Pretty fun in short bursts. Mitch is right about the controls, they do take time to master. IMO, the entire game is insanely difficult, but it's fun at the same time since yu get to watch the boat and/or the skier buy it whenever you crash.

     

    With 2 players water ski is BIG fun! You can play on one joypad, one is steering the boat, the other controls the ski. Very funny! I love that game!

     

    Best regards,

     

    Chris

  6. Posted

    Hi,

     

    the official scummVM port for atari, available at scummvm.org needs a very fast machine to run, but it provides excellent compatiblity, works stable and has many features. Very fast means, depending on the game you want to run, a ct60 or Milan would be fine, at least if you want to have music, sfx and speech in the game.

     

    On Patrice Mandins website, you´ll find an unofficial port which works fine on my falcon with phantom accelerator (030 with 25 MHz), a little slow, but good playable.

     

    For the official port, MiNT is suggested if you want to have any sound, as routines won´t work with Magic and TOS, yet.

     

    Patrices Port does run under single tos, what makes it a little faster on slower machines.

     

    Indeed there´s no official atari with 68020, but some accelerators did use it (pak2), so compiling it for those makes sense...

     

    Best regards,

     

    Christian

     

    Hi Folks,

     

    On the SCUMM VM Site I see there is an Atari version (68020 and up... never heard of an 68020 atari but ok)....

     

    The 030 is almost the same as the 020. That's why it's referenced like that.

     

    Will this work on my Falcon 030 (ok this has an 68030), and does it work GOOD. Or is it extremely slow?

     

    Might be interesting to add some new games to my Falcon 030 with this Scumm VM.

     

    I'm very interested in user reports.

     

    Thanks

    Marius

     

    Yes, it will work on your falcon, provided you don't have a stock falcon :). I'm not sure but I think that it needs MiNT to function properly, and, mainly, a 040/060 CPU. I have a ct63 clocked at 90mhz and DOTT runs quite nicely on that. I didn't even tried running it on plain 030.

  7. Posted

    hmm, I wathched this discussion for a little while and I am surprised how different the point of views are. I mean, we all like the same system, do we?

     

    At first. Battlespere Gold is worth its money. I mean it´s a great and rare game. I was so happy to get it for much less while buying a whole Jag collection from a friend. Secondly it´s very sad for me to see, that if I go to the small atari meetings, noone else beside me owns it. So no multiplayer fun for me. That´s why I would like to see someone releasing some more copies for a fair price so that others can play with me and on their own of course.

     

    As I am mainly a consumer with very little programming skills, I buy most of the commercial Jaguar homebrews (Songbird and other games included). I am not using another game system, yet, as I see no reason for it (the Jaggy fits nice under my TV and the games are still good today and I have many unfinished so I can play on for years and VLM is still a nice way to watch CDs on TV). So at least I am a potential buyer and as long as there are buyers, there´s a market.

     

    On the other hand, I can hardly understand why I should pay more than 100 bucks for a Jaguar release, when I could get the same, or better similar game, for much less on PS1,2,3 or other console. Beside that, I still do spending that money for jag releases, as I want some more to be released.

     

    I like that CF thing very much. Not because I can rip someone off with it. I still will buy the originals, but it´s nice to have the possibility to put more games on one cartridge. I have not that much place in my living room and my wife is killing me if I left my whole Jag collection lying around. On the other hand it´s more easier for programmers to release their games. As I sold my alpine board to someone who could use it better, maybe I would do some (poor *g*)Jag releases, too, as it´s easier to test them, then. And for people who don´t have cd,it´s great that in theory cd cames could be stored on CF card.

     

    For the Atari 7800 a card like that exists and there are stillhomebrew releases on cartridge, too, although one could theoretically download the games and put it on sd-card.

     

    So I see no reason why it should be different with cf-card for the Jag.

     

    Stay Atari!

     

    Chris

  11. Posted · Edited by Atari060

    I don't see the point, really. After all, the cartridge would be doing most of the work. Heck, the Atari 7800 couldn't even make good video game music unless you added a POKEY chip to the games you were designing!

     

    totally not true TIA can do some really amazing things, even full songs of real speach you just gotta know what your doing.

     

    Yes, but for such a cartridge you won´t even use TIA. As far as I understand, the c64 decoder is hardware based. The decoding isn´t done by the c64, just the title select, etc. This would in theory easyly be possible on the 7800... with the better aspect that you could use the original audio throughput (mono of course) and make it look like the 7800 is playing mp3s...

     

    From the horsepower point of view none of the 8-bit machines has the power to realtime playback mp3! My Milan060 (Atari ST clone with 68060 CPU 50 MHz) can not do this at all (only some light compressed ones in poor quality).

     

    But I´d like to see a hardware to make the 7800 look like it can play mp3s... maybe a cartridge with usb to coonect an ipod and show the menu via 7800 on TV?

     

    Best regards,

     

    Christian

  12. Posted

    hmm... the Panther would have been a really nice piece of hardware. IMHO Atari had mostly image problems. Here in Germany if you say Atari, you mean the 2600 VCS. They sold this "crap" until 1991!!! Man, this is hardware from the 70s! I loved my 2600 jr, but while I was still playing Pitfall and Pacman in 1990 (and later the ugly looking version of Xenophobe) my friends got their first SNES. As I had the Lynx around these days, I could show some of them what "Atari" was able to do, but the Lynx was very hard to get while the 2600 was everywhere... So even if they did release Panther in 1991 and Jag in 1993, they couldn´t be blamed for dropping hardware too early... 13 years of 2600 VCS is enough I think... Not to mention that most 7800 games were (good) adaptions from the arcade/2600... I wonder if they would have releases Asteroids Deluxe II on Panther ;)

     

    That´s why people first thought the Jaguar couldn´t play musix and sound at the same time... They remember the 7800 with great looking and awfull sounding games...

     

    What Atari was also missing, was a killer app, like Sonic or Mario... Bentley Bear was in the speech one day... Sure AvP was one on the Jag, but could you really imagine small children wearing AvP or Wolfenstein T-Shirts?

     

    2nd problem was money... they didn´t make any and two consoles were more than they could take... Even if they did release the Panther and it would have been bought, it would have taken a good time until they made money with it... That would have delayed the Jag or if they failed, made it impossible... so they did choose the technically better console. The Atari Falcon had the same fate around that time... it was very hard to get and no marketing for it.

     

    Technically it would have been better to wait till the Jaggy´s bugs were fixed, but financally they had to release it or not release it at all... as you already said, the 3do was there and Saturn, PSX and N64 on the way. If the Jag was released the same time as the PSX a lot less units would have been sold, if not other games would have been finished...

     

    If Rayman would have stayed exclusive for the Jaguar, maybe it would have become the NES of the 90s like Atari later wanted.

     

    I also heard about a contract that allowed Atari to convert Sega games for the Jaguar.... daytona USA would have been nice ;)

     

    The 68K was a fault... or not... for me (2600 player, you remember?) it was the first console to play 16-bit games on, so I don´t care about them... but I am a die-hard Atari fanatic... for others, who already owned a 16-bitter it was at least funny to see a 64-bit game system stumbling when a few sprites are on the screen (Zool2, Bubsy, etc.). They didn´t care that there were more colors, they just thought it cannot play 16-bit games better than my SNES. On the other hand, if you would leave the 16-bit titles away, there´s not much left... so the mass is what counts...

     

    In my personal opinion the Jag is a very fine piece of hardware which really CAN compete with the playstation one if it´s well programmed... Missile Command 3D e.g. is a nice gfx demo to show... a cd version with more textures would have been great... but still no Sonic or Mario :(

  14. Posted

    Jaguar has the best version of Raiden. Only downside is the fairly large info-panel on the right that takes up way too much of the playing field IMO.

     

    Yes, but it´s only because the height of the original arcade monitor, so you do not have to turn your TV to the side :)

     

    The Lynx version is also very nice... on the Atari Falxon exists a beta of Raiden which is close to the Jaggy one.

  15. Posted

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    How good is the game? How does the Jag version rate?

     

    (row 1: SNES, Genesis/Megadrive, PSX/Arcade)

    (row 2: Jaguar, Turbografx/PC Engine, Lynx)

     

    In my personal opinion it´s the best version I erver played, beside the arcade. It was there before the psx version came out and was really stunning. Although a little more paralax scrolling would have been nice...

     

    Beside that i´s very big fun on the jag, even more if you are two players!

     

    Best regards,

     

    Christian

  18. Posted

    I forgot to tell that if you really compare the 1993 falcon with the jaguar, the jag sure is the more modern system for games. I do not think that the development of the falcon had anything to do with the of the jag and vice versa. Atari simply bought the jag, so could nintendo and any other.

     

    If you compare the jag with other next gen consoles from it´s time, the jag sure is the winner as it has less users but compared to that more new software than any other system of that time...

     

    Sure, if you produce a cartridge that could not be free... 35 $ for Gorf is more than okay... unfortunately I couldn´t get a copy :( :( :(

     

    What I miss are free games on cd which could easyly be realised (Diamjags, e.g.).

     

    Beside that I hope to complete my jag games collection one day and most of the games are really good games.

     

    I also like that jagpad. Nothing wrong with it. Because of the numpad I like it more than others (syndicate is crap on other systems without keyboard).

     

    The jag has had some killer apps the falcon never did reach (beside acceleated with ct60)... AvP, Doom, Skyhammer, Battlesphere, Iron Soldier I,II... The Falcon´s graphically best games were crown of creation which can be compared to Battlesphere and Running - a doom clone.

     

    I do not know what could have been done on both machines and I hope that some coders still will break their limits. For the falcon you have a demoscene which often shows what could be done, unfortunately the jag hasn´t.

     

    But both systems are definately modern enough to still kick asses ourdays!

  19. Posted

    Ok,

     

    first of all, let me say I like both. The Jag and the Falcon. As I am mainly a gamer, I was first really impressed what the Jag could do. But as I like racing games best, the Falcon, even a plain one without acceleration, for me is the better choice. Except Super Burnout, Atari Karts and maybe World Tour Racing, the Jaguar sucks for this kind of games, as the first two are bitmapped based and so outdated, even Need4speed on 3DO looked miles better. On the falcon you have moongames (like f-zero) and the upcoming Reeking Rubber and No 2nd Prize (3D Hang On) and the hopefully upcoming Falcon Racing Game Project (Flying High), not to mention the working ST racing games.

     

    Now as my falcon is accelerated with ct60, I can even play Quake, Heretic and Hexen on it, it sure is the "better" gaming plattform from the technical potential. Before that, I liked AvP most.

     

    I also agree that in the falcon scene you have lots of good software for free, while the jaguar scene is more profit orientated, although atomix and diamjags proof the opposite.

     

    On the other hand, if I could get a "killer app" racing game for my Jag, I also would pay a hundret bucks ;)

     

    Cheers,

     

    Chris

  22. Posted

    New games could also have a built in battery to save games like the latest lynx homebrews have... or am I wrong?

    Certainly, anything is possilbe given time, money & effort. But why expend any when reasonable alternatives already exist?

     

    Oh really, DO they exist? I have never seen a highscore cart or anything like this for sale, so this is not an alternative (only for people who already own one).

     

    Best regards,

     

    Christian

  25. Posted

    For the majority of games the cartridge only contains ROM so externally powering the cartridge will not maintain the built-in RAM. And even carts with onboard RAM the games still use the built-in RAM. (Having two separate power sources also makes things difficult.)

     

    New games could either use the HS Cart or the AtariVox/SaveKey/MemCard.

     

    New games could also have a built in battery to save games like the latest lynx homebrews have... or am I wrong?

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