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I'm concerned about my "coupons" for the new Atari 2600 games not arriving to me yet.
I got my payment in plenty before May 22nd.
I'm nervous that there was some sort of mixup, as I thought I'd get the reservation confirmation/receipts/coupons...whatever is sent (I think it is coupons).
I sent email to your goat email account, but I'm not sure if you guys got it.
Only a week away, and I just want to make sure that nothing is left to chance.
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It was fun to look at your website, and collection rooms. My goal is to someday have something close to your collection rooms (minus huge arcade games, but it depends).
If I ever get a large enough room, my goal is to have the 2600/5200/7800 all connected to separate TVs (MAYBE), so that they are all hooked up and immediately playable at any time. A couple luxury video game chairs, and posters would make this "dream room" perfect. I have this vision in my mind of what I'm after.
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That is not really true in my case.
Back when I was around 6 years old I had an Atari 5200. I never had an Atari 2600, till now.
My old Atari 5200's controller's rubber shoes came completely off, but they still worked.
Eventually my system completely failed, and my parents apparently threw it ALL in the trash behind my back. It wasn't being played, because of the broken console, but I would never have thrown the cartridges and track ball away! Never.
So I started collecting Atari 5200 because that's what I used to own, and now I'm trying to collect the other ones
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So if the "tramiels" let programmers make cartridges bigger (ram, rom, whatever)...
what was the biggest game then? It terms of ram size.
And if you take the biggest made Atari 7800 cartridge, would any Nintendo cartridges still be bigger than that?
Thanks, it will be important to me once I start collecting for the Atari 7800 to know what the bigger carts are.
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When I said I was "surprised" by the operation part, I was more "frightened" than anything. Now that I think of it, it is a rather spooky, disturbing part in the game.
But that analysis about the "more than one screen" in an Atari game sounds like it holds true.
But then again, what's better:
Asteroids vs. MASH
Astroblast vs. MASH
Space Invaders vs. MASH
Well i'm not sure about Astroblast, but I like it more than MASH, and the others ARE better than MASH, but they are only one screen. So perhaps the two screen thing isn't quite accurate, but it should be.
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I didn't know it was against the rules of Ebay to ask a seller to sell individual items they have up for auction, and then have them relist....
Unless it is against Ebay rules that a seller stop an auction early. If that is wrong, then it is wrong. But it isn't the fault of the person asking the question.
Like if someone asked me to shoot someone else, and then I do it....are they at fault or am I? Um, oops...yeah hiring hitmen is against the law. Um, what was I saying? hehe
Like if a seller is selling 200 Atari 2600 games, but I want like TWO out of the whole mess, I might ask the seller if they would be willing to sell those to me, and then relist.
Not as bad as hiring a hitman, but perhaps I'm starting to see the logic.
So I, therefore, would be as "guilty" as Sylentwulf in asking people to end auctions early. Like the hitman scenario, we shouldn't tempt people to break Ebay's rules (if there are any like this).
Also, one time someone was selling a bunch of Atari 5200 games, but I wanted like 6 out of the 18 being sold. I made him a good offer, and said that he would probably make more in the long run if he relisted. So I was "helping" him make a profit, while acquiring only the games I wanted.
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Wow General Atarian, you made some pretty cool sociological observations about why people collect (not just collecting video games either).
I hate to say this, but that sounds like a dream come true to "have to" work in a thrift store, so they'd give you a rare game. Nothing gets closer to earning your supper does it?
Centuries ago, I'm sure man DID hunt for his food. Today, perhaps collecting is the closest humans have to those innate intincts.
Humans "hoard" things because of this too. The whole packrat syndrome....but the reason is probably because you needed to have some spare food lying around in case you couldn't hunt for days.
In this case, it is cartridges. And perhaps far back in your mind, and in all of our minds we think....will Atari be around tommorrow? Will the carts start to wear out? Will the price become too unbelievable to afford. Then we get that hoarding reflex.
And then I'm not even talking about the fact that games are fun...and since people are "goal driven", games serve that need really well. Always striving for something/a goal. So you strive to find a game, and then you play the game, and strive some more for the goal of winning, or for a high score, or whatever.
So how's that for long winded? I type fast, so it isn't much different than me talking live I suppose.
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Here's my favorite coin ops:
10. Donkey Kong Jr.
9. Mortal Kombat 1
8. Ms Pac-Man (slow speed)
7. Pac-Man (fast speed)
6. Super Pac-Man (watched it on starcade once, but only got to play it live like once, at a Chuck E Cheese)
5. Golden Axe
4. Ghosts and Goblins
3. Kung Fu Master
2. Street Fighter Champion Edition
1. Karate Champ
Fits in no category, or ranking: Dragon's Lair (it can't be ranked cuz I've never actually been able to afford playing this in the arcade, at least the last time I was at one with one of these)
It is fun to even watch others play it.
A couple times I went ALL the way through all the stages of Karate Champ, back to stage one. It isn't "overly" difficult, since you mainly just wait for the opponent to commit himself to a full point move, you block it, and waste him with a lunge punch to the face. It does get harder when they start moving fast after the "road" stage (with the other white background).
I wanted to mention Baby Pacman...it was in a Godfather's Pizza once in Alexandria, MN, but I've never seen it again. It was mad fun to play the pinball game, and have it attached to the video game, and the two were together.
It would be the ultimate to get something like this, very very unique.
[ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: KAZ ]
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God, what about Dragon's Lair? Doesn't ANYONE like this game? I see everything but this game in like the last 1000 posts I've read.
Maybe it isn't a "modern" enough game, and you don't interact much beyond pressing a direction every now and then or a button.
It would have to be in the top 5 of my favorite coin-op games of all times.
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Here's what I got, can you help me figure out an approximate price of it all?
1 Atari 2600 (Darth Vader)
2 regular joysticks
1 pair of Atari paddles
2 different third party Atari 2600 controllers
62 unique loose cartridges
4 brand new shrinkwrapped Atari 2600 games
1 Atari 5200 (4 port)
2 non-working controllers
2 refurbished perfectly working controllers
2 Wico Joysticks with Y-cables
Atari trak ball with Box
29 unique loose cartridges
4 sealed or shrinkwrapped games
About $100 for all the games, if it was at $1 a piece...tho I'm sure I'd get more for it. The trak ball and Wico controllers together would probably fetch at least $150
The two consoles could fetch another $100
I'm being conservative here, of course.
At even $5 for each game the pricing would go up like crazy....
5 times 60=$300
5 times 30=$150
The shrinkwrapped games would probably get me a little more too.
So I don't know, but I'm sure that I paid more than I might get for all of this, but perhaps not.
It doesn't matter as I'm likely not to sell my stuff anytime soon.
[ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: KAZ ]
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I found a classic gaming store somewhat near my area about a week ago (it is called: Cedar Cliff Collectibles).
When I first stepped foot in the store, I immediately knew I was at somewhere special. Screw Pawn America and Goodwill, Pawn America doesn't even have super nintendo stuff anymore, and after I leave Goodwills I feel the grime won't ever come off.
It was like a kid in a candy store, at first I saw an entire bin full of nintendo, super nintendo, and genesis games.
Behind the counter there it was, a whole boatload of intellivision, 2600, and 5200 games.
And then I saw a 7800 up close for the first time, and God it was cool. And then I saw a colecovision. Tho I never had one myself, I remember playing it several times at a friend's house. I think I played donkey kong jr. several times on it.
It is all a blurr tho, I can't quite remember if he had a commodore 64, and if we played some games on his computer. And what kind of computer it was. Maybe IT was a commodore 64, are they computers too?
Those were the good days, back when everyone shared my interest in games.
I agree with the disease thing, but usually diseases are unpleasant, whereas collecting games is VERY fun.
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I bookmarked your selling page.
Wow, you've got alot of new shrinkwrapped games, that is awesome.
And all those loose games.
Eventually, I'll probably be buying some stuff off of you, if you still have some of it for sale later.
Eventually, one of my "obsessive" goals is to get a good amount (maybe at least 10) games in which I have
1. The loose cartridge and manual
2. A shrinkwrapped game
So for Pitfall! for example, it would be neat to have a NIB shrinkwrapped version, and a loose cart with insructions.
Maybe another alternative would be to get two shrinkwrapped games, and open 1. Harder to access games that are in their boxes tho for playablity, so having just loose games is probably the best. The other would be for display, or for "time capsule" type fun (saving it for like decades, and opening them moments before you breathe your final breath) hehe
[ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: KAZ ]
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Several of my games came from Sylentwulf. I don't think relations between him and I are good at all.
He's got great communication and very fast shipping on his auctions. Being from a "collector's" point of view, his auctions were perfect for me, since just about every game that was on my "to get" list he had. Since I was buying several at once, to save on shipping costs, I failed to view alot of the pictures. Had I done that, I would've seen some cartridges that were in horrible shape.
When I took Q-tips and isopropyl alcohol to all the carts he sent me, there seemed to be a mound of dirt inside the cartridges. Not a biggie really, but I think he should CLEAN some cartridges instead of running them through mud on a farm, before selling them. Some were VERY dusty. I don't fault him much at all, since he sells so many cartridges, it simply isn't realistic to clean each and every one.
If I bid on one of his auctions again in the future, which I probably wouldn't, he'd probably cancel it anyway.
I know he's on this message board from time to time, and I'm sure he'll read this too.
[ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: KAZ ]
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I'm having this unusual problem, but maybe it happens to others.
I live in a one bedroom apartment, with one TV, kind of a small living room, and one bedroom (medium size, but my bed takes up alot of the room).
Whenever my friend stops over to play games, we play on the Playstation. I usually just take the console I'm using, and put it on my bed. The other is on a towel, on the floor.
I switch off frequently between the two, since I've been collecting for both at the same time.
I have all the 2600 cartridges in a plastic tub thing, and all my 5200 cartridges on my dresser.
For now everything is pretty good, I can probably indefinitely collect a more Atari carts provided I have tubs. But I'm almost at my limit for consoles
What I want I can't quite fit in my place.
I'm eventually going to want to collect an Atari 7800, an Atari Jaguar, a Colecovision, a 2 port Atari 5200, and a Heavy Sixer 2600.
Not to mention some accessories like a VCS adapter.
Course it'll take me 5 years to get it all (at least), but even if I had some money to use, I couldn't fit it in my place. Well maybe not 5 years, classic systems are frickin' cheap compared to modern systems that cost $200. Perfect for collecting!
Can anyone offer me any suggestions for storing several systems? Alternatives short of actually getting a larger place?
These tubs I have are very easily stackable, but I don't know if it is realistic to put consoles in tubs, but maybe.
Also, has anyone else had the problem where they might have the money to collect, but no space?
Thanks for responding!
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I just finished my Atari 5200 collection site. I think the photos turned out pretty well.
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Ok, if this helps anyone "diagnose" this problem Super Pac-Man apparently has with some models of Atari 5200's...here it is:
On the back on my console reads something like this:
223 0250869
Ok, I think this is the older of the 4 port models. It does not have a * which I think I've read means that it would be a later 4 port model.
Also, it may be true that someone removed a "shield" from the inside of my system, as I did not have to remove anything besides the cover to get at the "color pot".
I'm 100% it is not the cartridge's fault, but rather the model of Atari I'm attempting to play it on. It works on 2 ports, that is certain. It may also work on the later 4 port models.
I still think it is silly that they had a 4 port but only like one game (super breakout) that actually used 4 controls. And then when they changed it to 2 ports, they didn't make sure it worked with all games. Silly Atari, but I still luv em.
[ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: KAZ ]
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Yeah, that sounds like a great idea, maybe they SHOULD go back....it's been a "couple" years.
I don't know how to build a space shuttle, so me going there isn't gonna happen too soon
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I think the surgery part is actually pretty interesting. It suprised me enough when I first played it, that I actually played it for a while (which means about a minute).
It kinda reminded me of that "Operation" board game.
It doesn't quite fit into the crappiest Atari 2600 games, but it is maybe worse than at least half of all the Atari 2600 games.
Kinda bugs me that the label doesn't have the name of the cartridge on the front side, so you can't display it very well.
When I saw it at the Goodwill, it definitely was unique enough that I wanted it. I didn't even know the rarity of it, and was was hoping it would be. It has a rarity of 3, which is pretty "good" in my book, especially for being in the wild.
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That's some major advanced tactics.
I once heard the phrase "You need money to make money".
It sounds more that true in this case.
You use your intelligence and determination to actually make yourself money.
But as another has pointed out before...
Consider if you spend 4 hours a day looking for a GREAT bargin Buy It Now price for 2600...Eventually you're going to find someone who doesn't know much about classic gaming, and you're going to get an awesome deal, saving you mega bucks...
However, you could hypothetically spend 4 hours working and make that much or maybe more.
The time, therefore, it takes you to package, sell, and buy this stuff might match the rewards you are getting out of it. You are, in a sense, WORKING, but you are working at collecting, and you are good at it.
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Yeah I did read that...
If we went more than once than that does weaken my argument quite a bit, maybe alot even.
Each time they supposedly said they went to the moon makes it more likely they did actually.
Why they haven't gone in the last 15-20 years is still a little wierd. But oh well.
"E.T. Cartridges".
Ok, I said it. On topic like always
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I believe you, and that is incredible.
Yeah perhaps if I WERE holding a swordquest waterworld or a Quadrun, it would distract you from the actual picture.
Or maybe a Mystique Cartridge would've been more in keeping with "the theme".
It was pretty funny when I first logged on to the forum earlier today. I got alot of email notifications that people responded to my post, and I clicked on the link to it, and it said something like "the post has been removed". At first I thought it was moved to a different forum, like "off topic, or maybe marketplace". Then I read what you wrote Chris, and put 2 and 2 together
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It was my own fault for being stupid, it was late at night (early morning) when I got those 2600 pictures done. I just transferred them to my Geocities, and thought all was well
Sorry about the "rude awakening" Atarinvader.
The problem has been "fixed", so you won't be seeing any of that anymore.
I AM curious myself what people wrote in the forum about me tho. They deleted the whole topic before I read anything (there was like 9 responses, some negative I can be sure).
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I like what you wrote above in the "edited post", That's pretty funny.
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I hadn't realized that, or that it could be done. No wonder my topic was later deleted.
I guess I just didn't think enough people would even visit my Atari 2600 site, or do what you suggest they did.
Looking at my site statistics, this is what did happen.
I guess I should be embarrased or something, but my link was correctly put in.
I should've been alot more cautious, and not so careless about it.

Money Order Problem....
in Auction Central
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I can't believe this came up.
I bought a bunch of Atari 2600 games from this guy, and created a postal money order, and mailed it to his address.
He says he hasn't got it yet....
This is a most impossible situation. I already withdrew this money from my account. If it in fact got lost in the mail (which I somehow doubt), does this mean my money is gone completely?
If given a reasonable amount of time, is there anyway to reverse this money order, assuming the person I'm paying doesn't receive it? Like some sort of retraction to get the money back?