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Tizoc -
Why all the hate man?
1.) If someone can fit save mary on a 2600 cartridge.. go for it.
2.) I can do my own graphics, thanks. I did Klax very very simply. Much easier than what I had to do for Save Mary, Shooting Arcade. Need instructions to make your own? Its a sinch... step one, scan a PAL 2600 Klax box, ...step two, scan a standard 7800 box of your choice. Voila! Believe me, I dont plagerise art work.
3.) We have made our own instructions from the PAL 2600 instructions.
Why must everybody be so damn hostile about this? I'm not forcing you to buy any games, or to even like them. Do as you wish. Just stop flaming us for working hard, on our own, to get some new stuff out for the system we like. That's what its all about.
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Once again, it appears as if I have to mention that Save Mary! and Shooting Arcade were designed for the 2600 as 2600 Super Games and we could not get them out on the 2600 without alot more time and expense. It worked alot better on a 7800 board, so thats what we did. Would you rather we advertise it as a 2600 game so that people purchase it thinking its going to work on a 2600 just to find out it wont? That would be pretty upsetting to alot of people. We're lucky to have been able to do this at all. If you dont want the cartridge, you dont have to buy it. I'm sorry that its 45 bucks but that barely covers the cost to get these made and to make it worth while. In the meanwhile, I've got some soldering / glueing / packaging to do.
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I'm wondering if you would have a service like they do with Sentinel (replace the PAL rom with an NTSC one) for Impossible Mission...I wouldn't mind sending mine for that.Honestly, I have my fingers in so many different pies right now, I don't know if we would have time to do that... but that's another thing I will look into if there is an interest in it. One thing that we will have for sure is a "collectors edition" verson of Impossible Mission... I have about 20 Impossible Missions, brand new and shrinkwrapped in the box. It took a bit of effort to collect these, but I'd like to think I have a nice stockpile of them at this point. We will most likely open them up, heat the labels, switch out the boards, seal it back up, and sell it in its original packaging, brand new, with original box, instructions, etc. But that is a bridge we will cross when we get to it.
Any other interesting ideas anybody would like to contribute?
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Justin, just out of curiosity. Are you going to make your new 7800 PCB boards available for 7800 homebrew titles, if someone wanted to purchase a small quanity of them? And if so how much would they run?Mitch -
Ya know, that's not a bad idea. I will ask the other guys involved about this and see if this is feasable. I have a feeling the boards might be rather expensive. The only problem is that there is a handfull of different boards made for the 7800 cartridges. The ones we had made up were not the same boards that might be required by homebrewers... but if they are made available to homebrewers, then that's just one more step closer to more new 7800 games being released. I will certainly look into this and get back to ya on it! Another GREAT source for boards for simple homebrew games (Senso DX?) would obviously be the Pole Position II cartridge. It's the Combat of 7800 games. There's an abundance of them out there, and all you need is a screwdriver, a soldering iron, and a bit of initiatiave!
Best,
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Okay, now that I am home and have the time to address all of these curiousities, I will try to answer all of the above questions.
I don't understand... what's with Save Mary for the 7800? Is this just the same 2600 game, except put on a 7800 board or something? If I snapped off the sides of the connector, would it work on a 2600? Something about this doesn't sound right.--Zero
Save Mary! is a 2600 game, simply put. However, there were problems getting it to run on a regular 2600 PCB, and it didnt seem to like the 7800 very much at all. There were flickering problems, invincibility problems, etc, so we found that if you put it on the 7800 board, and run the game on a 7800 operating in 2600 mode (not accessing the maria chip) the game works beautifully. There is no flickering, the colors look nice, and its just an all-around better game on the 7800 board. We haven't run into any serious problems playing the game on the 7800. However, since it is on a 7800 cartridge, we cannot sell it as a 2600 game, because well it wont fit in a 2600 series system. So this is why we say it is a "game for use on the Atari 7800 operating in 2600 mode." The same applies to Shooting Arcade.
I hope they don't run into any 7800 incompatibility problems like I did. My Save Mary prototype doesn't like my 7800 at all. It would paly weird tricks on it like making Mary invincible. Of course prototypes are normally a little more finicky than regular carts...Tempest
Nope! Not when you put the game on a 7800 PCB!
The game is fully compatable with the 7800 working in 2600 mode.A mindlink game? Who's going to play that? AFAIK, the mindlink sucked as a peripheral.Well... then dont buy it. We want to bring something new out for the Atari home systems so that everybody may enjoy something that was not readilly available before. We dont expect everybody to like every game we put out, but we want to make new items available nevertheless.
Note that I will be posting my Impossible Mission bugfix ROM info later today, so people can play it on emulators. I was planning to save it until I did some publishing, but now... what's the point?Feel free to post this ROM so that everybody may enjoy it. It's your work and you should be damn proud of it. If you guys can get an eprom made of your fix, the trick is to use the same style board as found in Jinks cartridges. If you dont mind hacking it appart, it can be a fun project. For people who want to purchase one on a brand new board (not from a Jinks) with a box and instructions, that is what we intend to put out. The boards are costing us an arm and a leg right now, not to mention that we spend about $7.00 to $10.00 on full-color packaging and manuals, so the cartridges aren't very cheap. If there is an interest, we will make available a cartridge only package of Impossible Mission, and all of the other games, for a lower price. Sorry John if you feel like we crowded your space man. It's a hobby and it is supposed to be fun, we're not trying to put the kibosh on anybody's work. We just wan't to help bring out things that werent available previously.
Got any side by side screenshot comparisons? I would find that very interesting.Tempest
We will have some screenshots available fairly soon. They will be available on the same webpage as the rest of the information regarding these games. www.atari7800.com/new
For about 8 months now, I knew that Lance at Video 61 was creating 3 Atari 2600 SuperCart titles.Lance knows we have these games available. How so? Because Lance and I were working on similiar projects at the same time, and we had decided to collaborate our efforts to get out a decent product. Every new 7800 title that we have available on our site will also be available from Video 61. If you like Lance better than you do us, then by all means, buy from Lance. They will be the same games with the same artwork and packaging that I did.
I recently got a look at some COMMON 7800 carts they sent to Joe Santulli and they have removed the labels and replaced them with their own 7800.com label which is nothing more than an advertisement for their site.Actually this is very misleading of what our intensions were. I believe if you had looked into this, you wouldnt be quite so critical.
Yes, Joe Santulli has common cartridges with new labels on them, produced exclusively by Atari 7800.com. No, it is not just an advertisement for our site.
These cartridges are from our "refurbished cartridge" collection. Instead of just selling the same old dusty used cartridges with torn and sticky labels and bad contacts, we have begun a process of taking apart every used cartridge (which requires the removal of the label) and completely refurbishing them. This means the entire cartridge shell is taken appart, sanitized, rinsed, and the board is completely cleaned as well, including maticulously cleaning the contacts and testing the cartridge.
Once the cartridges are reassembled, we have to put on new labels obviously, and instead of just making copies of the original black and grey 7800 labels which were featured on the common cartridges, we tried to go above and beyond. I personally created 10 high-resolution (600dpi) labels for the common cartridges featuring full-color prints of what should be on the respective game label. Lastly, they are shrinkwrapped and given a 2-year limited warranty with 24-hr customer service should you need it for whatever reason. (seriously, I have had calls at 4 am asking which way the cartridges go into the system... it was kinda funny
) So in the end, instead of getting a dusty used cartridge with the same ole', same ole' for the label, we tried to think out of the box and do something new and creative. Why? We thought you guys might like it. Does it say "Atari 7800.com" on the labels? Yes, at the bottom it has our logo. Why? Im damn proud of our work, both the physical cartridge, and the artwork. It's a cartridge label, a nice, full color, cartridge label at that. It's not an advertisement for our site. What's more, is that its not as if we try to doop people into purchasing these common titles from us, and then pulling the ole' switcheroo on them by sending them one of these color cartridges. We fully state on our used 7800 cartridge webpage, that these common cartridges have been refurbished and feature our new labels on them. We even show pictures of what these cartridges will look like, so that people dont get confused or mislead along the way. If people dont want them, then they just dont have to purchase them and they can get one with an original label at almost every other place that sells 7800 games. Guys, it's not a big deal. Why get all up in arms because we put something out thats creative, interesting and new? Anyways, if you guys want to know more about what these color cartridges are, or why we make them, we have a webpage for them at http://www.atari7800.com/catalogue/pg8.htm Hopefully that should clear things up a bit.A final note about Klax and Sentinel... I am well aware of Lee's cartridges being available and I commend him on his work. He has a nice product, and if you like Lee better than us, then buy from Lee. I don't know how Lee makes his cartridges, but I can tell you that both Lance and myself have been working for quite a long time on these two titles, trying to get them made brand new on new 7800 PCBs, getting the packaging together, etc. It's a hobby, not a war. We are not trying to "shut Lee down" or anything of the sort. Lee has his games priced at 40.00 which is a fair and decent price... if we can get the price at that, or lower, then we will. But between the new boards, the new cartridge shells, and the packaging, this has gotten VERY expensive for us to do, and the price refelcts that. Sorry guys, I cant wave my wand and change the rules of economics. We're just trying to have fun and bring out some stuff on our site that we didn't have available.
Anyway, I hope this clears up some of your questions. If you have any more, feel free to email me directly at [email protected] or call us at 941.598.1862, even if you just want to bitch about how great Lee's Klax's are and how much we suck for trying to make a mindlink game. We like to hear from ya. For those of you who like what we are doing and have an interest in our work, well all I can ask for is just a bit of encouragement and excitement to keep us going. We promise to bring out some really cool stuff as soon as we can get it done.
Thanx guys,
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We are having some sort of error with our forms right now on Atari 7800.com, I'm not quite sure what happened but it appears as if all of our forms aren't working appropriately. If anybody is having trouble placing an order, asking a question, or requesting assistance, you can always email us at [email protected], or call us at 941.598.1862.
As for all of the questions addressed above, we will answer those as best we can later today when Jon and I have the time to sit down and answer them (I'm at work right now)
To answer a few of the common questions, Save Mary! and Shooting Arcade are games that were designed for the 2600 system, utilizing a special chip to give the game better resolution. We found that by bypassing this propriotory chip and using a new 7800 cartridge board, the game would play with brighter colors and a clearer screen than what we could ever get on the 2600, and at a viable cost for production. This is why we have 2600 games on the 7800 boards. We advertise them as 7800 games because they WILL NOT play on the 2600 series systems. They will ONLY play on the 7800, even though they do not take advantage of the maria chip.
For those of you who don't want to shell out 45.00 for a new game, we are still working on bringing the price of the games down as best as we can. They are expensive to manufacture (brand new PCB's, brand new cartridge shells, brand new high-rez labels, high-rez instructions, boxes, etc.) and we will consider releasing less expensive "cart only" versions later on once supply catches up.
Hope this helps guys! Any other questions can be emailed directly to me if you wish.
Cya!
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Yeah, I always had a thing for Yar's Revenge... It was just so immaginatiave. I always hoped that maybe one day we could port it to the 7800 ProSystem. (*cough*) I think a Yar t-shirt would be in order.
Let me ask you guys this... We (at Atari 7800.com) are working on a fairly big "Impossible Mission" project and we wanted to do T-Shirts for those too (assuming we had the rights to do so) which sort of shirt would you rather see? A t-shirt with the box artwork on it? Or one featuring "Secret Agent Man" with a cool spy look to it?
Just curious...
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You know, now that I realized you can use two controllers I wanted to go try it out. I realized, what better way to try it out than in the Atari 7800 ProSystem kiosk I have... the two original joysticks poke out about a foot or so and they are stable and dont jostle around too much, so it is making for some real awesome gameplay! Ill post pictures shortly.
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Man I still can't believe I didnt know this. I never had the instruction manual for Robotron... I bought it back like in '87 used from a game shop, never had the instructions. Now that I have Atari 7800.com, I have tons of these things in stock new in the box, but I never took one for myself and cracked it open and looked at the instructions.
Are there any other mods out there for the dual joystick operation?
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I don't mean to spam, but in a few months we will have hordes of this stuff. If you are interested in Turbo Grafx-16, feel free to drop by www.TurboGrafx-16.com there's not alot there just yet, but there will be shortly.
Good luck guys.
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Harry-
Hey sorry I didn't mean to make it sound like I literally wanted people to hound you, buddy. I meant that as an homage to your work!
I have bought about one of everything you have made (how many hours I have spent with my monitor cartridge, I cant even count) so all I was saying was that I hope there is enough demand and interest in your work for you to make another release. Thats all. 
As for Centipede on Lynx... again I dont really know what will happen with this. I know some people who want to publish it sooner or later but its not a real priority. I played it once and the one I had *did* have sound. No music, but just the littke "wakka-wunk, wakka-wunk, wakka-wunk" that the regular arcade centipede had.
PS- Let's all give a round of applause to Harry for his hard work and commitment and stop pirating his stuff!
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I dont think the people who have control of the situation really want to do that, or have the time to do all the programing. I've suggested that too, but nothing has come of it yet. Don't worry though, there are other cooler projects on the way before Centipede. At least thats what I have been told numerous times anyway.
Sorry guys I hate to tease ya like that, but thats about all I can suggest. Maybe if you hound harry dodgson he can turn something cool out again!
Best,
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Holy crap! I feel like such a schmuck! I've been an avid 7800 gamer for over 15 years, and not once have I ever heard anybody play Robotron with 2 joystickson the 7800... I always thought what a shame it was that you couldnt use 2 sticks on the 7800 as opposed to the 5200, because yeah, 2 sticks is all the fun of robotron! I'm going to have to try this out.
Lol thanks guys.
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Who published meteorites? this is the first I've ever heard of it..
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call me half-retarded but how do you use 2 joysticks at one time on Robotron for the 7800?? I realize the 5200 was designed to use 2 joys at one time, but ive always just used the one joystick per player while playing robotron on the 7800. clue me in!
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he's just going to announce that he and moycon are guy-pals if you know what i mean. nothing we didnt already know.
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Aren't Atari Video Cube and Rubic's Cube the same game?
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I just watched a boxed set of these things sink into a lake along with 2 7800 systems, 120 loose games, and 30something joysticks.
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Most of them are officially licensed... at least the classic bright colored t-shirt or jersey with the Atari Fuji logo on the front. Hasbro made a killing on these during the late 90's and Infogrames is doing the same. Now there are some unlicensed shirts floating around, but I dont think they are as popular as people think they are.
Either way... I might just have to bite the bullet and make these reproductions regardless of licensing. If Infogrames gets pissed then I could always stop production. The paperwork they have regarding copyrights only guarantees them the Atari name, logo, and about 30 classic games like Centipede, Asteroids, etc. I have a feeling that they could not proove that "SwordQuest" is a registered trademark or copyright of Infogrames, Inc.
Let me know if there is a true interest in these shirts. If there is enough demand, I will make them.
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My favorite under-rated system is ofcourse the Atari 7800 ProSystem. Now I'm sure that most of us here have an appreciation for it, but thats because we are in an Atari Age forum
Aside from that, the Turbo Grafx-16 is definately one of my top favorite lines of systems. When I was in school and everybody else had the NES, I had the Turbo. People didnt laugh or say "huh" to me, they all knew what it was and they knew it had far superior gameplay and graphics as opposed to the NES. The TurboExpress could play any TurboChip on the market in North America and had more impressive graphics than even our beloved Lynx. Personally, I still feel that the TurboExpress is far superior in graphics and sound than the measley little GBA. (blech)
Im also a big NEO-GEO guy. Neo Geo was never really "disliked" so to speak, but it was never very popular due to its cost. 3DO, Jaguar, ColecoVision ADAM, Sega CD-X and Lynx are stablemates in my closet of lost systems.
Best,
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Christian- We are still in the middle of getting this site up off the ground... we could use a hand if you want to help us out with reviews and stuff. Or anybody reading this who is an avid turbo gamer as well, we would love to have any help we can get.
Thanks!
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7800, Can you tell us when it will come out, by whom and the price?Nope, nope and nope.
I'm sorry guys, I took an oath of secrecy. Here is what I can tell you... the people involved in this are outside of Atari 7800.com, it's not something we are brewing up. They claim to have purchased this straight from the sunnyvale warehouse when they were closing down, and that it is pretty much a complete game that can be played for at least a few hours without any glitches. There may have been other variations of Centipede created by other homebrewers, (I am not certain) but this one came right out of Atari. It will be produced at one point down the road (hopefully in the next 3 or 4 years) but only if they can get around the copyright situation. Centipede is one of those "popular" titles that is still an active copyright for Infogrames, so that causes a real problem appearantly.If and when this becomes available, believe me everyone will be made well aware of it, and we will have them in stock to sell at Atari 7800.com.
Best,
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Mitch - I certainly will do that. And if I dont find a spare, Ill be happy to provide you guys with high-resolution pictures and details so Atari Age can have the information on this jewel as well.
For me, a die-hard 7800 guy, this thing is the holy grail of 7800 items. I only know of about three or four in existance. If I would have known Dan Kramer had one for sale, I certainly would have topped the 300 he got for it.
Thanks guys for all the help..
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Yeah... but can theirs fire up within a 7800 just by turning on the power switch?
hehehe. Congratulations guys. Let me know if anybody needs an outlet to sell the games.
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