kroogur

I'll give it a shot this weekend (i got a rare weekend off)

Good for EGM! It's about time someone stands up to these companies as they have no problem producing lackluster titles and expecting top dollar for them. In fact folks should start voicing their displeasure over the attitude these companies have send them email, snail mail, whatever it takes! Would a list of contacts for these companies be a worthwhile project? To make it easier to send them our thoughts?

Actually this topic is called how does the 5200 compare to the NES? not "My Atari 5200 is the better system" as you suggested, and to further the point i started to make in the Jag thread systems like the PSX and Nintendo have benefited from long healthy sales runs of consoles and deep pockets in their marketing/development departments. The 2600 is the only system that Atari had that enjoyed a full healthy life and even that system has not reached it's full potential yet as evidenced by the Hacks and Homebrews for it. Spend a little time as i have and read the posts that folks put up with samples and demos of their projects pushing the Atari/CV/ etc... to their very limits and you will see some incredible things, yes as far as history is concerned NES and PSX were giants in innovation and gameplay but what about their humble competitors? thats where the fine folks here that tinker and test with these systems are realizing that they could have been on par with NES and PSX but sadly they lacked the support to fully realize their potential. And you are correct on another point this is a forum devoted to Atari so of course we will back our systems to the hilt (David and Goliath) we love our Atari so it is only natural if you or anyone else come in and start boasting about the superiority of the NES ad PSX you will ruffle some feathers and rile folks up...but then i suspect you already knew that

I voted for Undertow just now, yeah i do find it odd Bioshock was left out.

Load times are of course subjective what i find unacceptable may not be as such to someone else, i realize that cartridges are instant but i also recall the load times being much better on my 3D0 than the PSX , great games? on the PSX? again subjective, i find that sometimes the unknown or the obscure titles can be much more enjoyable that the so called "Greatest Hits" on consoles like the PSX but i see we are off track so to help rectify matters let me offer this. As to what a system is truly capable of we could perhaps look at the NES the early games were blocky and plain (Urban Champion anyone?) and yet by the end of that systems life span what games did we see? Super Mario Brothers 3, The Mega Man series with it's tight gameplay and crisp graphics, how did such a system with the lowly blocky graphics transform itself into the system capable of such games as SMB3 and the excellent Capcom titles? because the developers took time to understand the capabilities of the hardware and push it to it's very limits! The Jag never had such a chance as it lost support due to poor managerial choices and some admittedly lack luster games, what we have now are some very dedicated fans who realize the great power in the Jag console and are working to unlock it! give it a chance i think you and many other will be amazed!

There is one simple reason why i still prefer my Jag over the PSX and it goes something like this: I think i'll play a game to unwind after a hard days work. *Fires up PSX after removing 3 inches of dust from top* Okay here we go! *pops in disc* .....Loading .....Loading .....Loading .....Loading *goes to get sandwich* .....Loading Press Start! .....Loading .....Loading .....Loading .....Loading *files paperwork to apply for social security* Ok game on! *plays for 5 min* ......Loading ......Loading ......Loading *touches up gray hairs forming in my beard with Grecian Formula* Ok games back! *plays for 6 min* ......Loading ......Loading *Rips PSX out of TV and hurls out the window into middle of street where it's promptly run over by a Bus* Hooks up Jag or N64 or my trusty 3D0 hell i'd even take my Phillips CDi over the PSX My point is i feel those in the know are correct the Jag could be a true performer! we need to give the fine folks who are devoting their valuable spare time to unlocking the Jag time to do it, once done i think we will all be amazed! The PSX wowed me at first but i quickly grew tired of the unacceptable load times and it's inability to read discs that had even minor scratches whereas my 3D0 could play discs that look like the were chewed on by a wolf of all my systems the PSX gets zero attention now and has for years i just don't use it it's to slow. As stated many times in this thread the thing holding back the Jag is the miserable 68000, work around that and i think this system would knock all kinda socks off! The homebrews would be nothing short of incredible!

Control on this game is iffy at best i often have to just keep moving the joystick in all directions to get and progress and be careful trying to jump across the stream controls are very touchy there.

Cool thanks! I sell every now an then on ebay and i usually ship either priority or use UPS as i know folks like to get their newly acquired treasures quickly. From now on i'll make sure to request a better ship method.

I won an item on ebay on dec 20th paid on the 21st and have yet to see said item it was allegedly sent "Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service" (whatever that means) and it has still not arrived i figured extra time an all due to the holidays but things i ordered before and during the holidays have already shown up. I sent a polite query last evening as to the status of my package and am awaiting a reply, the seller has 100% feedback and i dont think Wisconsin to Pennsylvania should take quite this long unless that method of shipping utilizes horse and buggy? So what is "Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service" and does anyone use it?

Very cool! I had not seen that before the only thing i remember was an old nintendo power that showed how to take pics of your high scores.

Gex i can't get enough -o- that lil critter!

#1 Christmas release #2 Pack in Game Gex #3 All the afore mentioned hardware upgrades are solid and would have helped. #4 I realize getting licenses was tough for Atari but some must haves they should have pursued strongly WWF Wrestling titles, Better Doom, Street Fighter Remix(bring back some of the guys from the very first game and introduce a true storyline mode ie: combine rpg elements with seemingly random fights along the way that will become more clear as the story progresses and have a standard vs mode too. Better sports titles: George Foremans boxing legends take the finest boxers from the past and offer a create a boxer mode. A baseball game on par with Ken Griffey from the SNES, Madden would have rocked on the Jag. An arcade classic cart, a cart with multiple puzzle games. #5 The CD should have come the next year packed with a demo disc and a copy of GEX Unlimited also the Lynx should have been redesigned as it was a tremendous beast(not a very portable system) to slide into a docking station on the CD unit that would not only allow Lnxy play through the main system but thanks to the modem built into the CD unit it could download games to the built in storage in the new lynx (think sega channel in reverse)

I have FP for GBA i know its not quite the sme but i enjoy it very much! Sadly i have no more PS2 just my new PsP but with the Ps2 getting to be cheaper at Gamestop i will be getting another one soon. Yeah i'm all to famliar with how that works thanks to my very short lived time trying to get into the indy circut.

Sweet Tea! it's delicious and has antioxidants and stuff!

What about us poor suckers who don't have a Supercharger?

Now i remember why i stay away from wrestling games for years at a time they cheat it's that simple they cheat, i thought by now maybe things would be different but sadly it's the same old. I am running my CAW though season mode and to secure my spot at The Rumble Royal i had a ladder match with JBL and despite me pummeling him until he could not get up he consistently pops back up and attacks me his little body meter is red if i knock him down he will lay there for 10-15 seconds and not move, but dont you just know the moment i knock him down and start up the ladder he pops up and stops me. and of course the capper was when i threw him out the ring and the moment i nearly had the briefcase he appeared on the ladder in front of me and i get suplexed off and lose. Are there any wrestling games that don't cheat? I'd really like to know.

I did a search under metro detroit in Craigslist ans found this: http://detroit.craigslist.org/tag/521259847.html They state it has 40 games which would imply its a fb2, it may be worth it to check it out?

Have you checked the metro detroit area on Craigs list? Target had them ove the holidays as well.

Well i certainly can't top yours mostly due to me getting vertigo in the very first game thanks to the lousy camera bouncing all over the place it made me sick literally. And i also agree about the killing and would point out to folks that the Indiana Jones concept never really went out of style the movies continue to be popular and are still popular enough to spawn another sequel Indy isn't kill crazy he doesn't need to be it's not his job, has he killed yes? was it mainly in self defense/preservation? yes. I have not played any other Tomb Raider games since the first one so i can't rightfully comment on the whole series but based on what i've read and the clips i've seen i can say she needs to get back to basics.

Thanks! and ol Kroo wishes you and everyone else a great happy new year!

I got mine at Ollie's about 2 months ago they had some left by the register but they were still $30, a little more than i wanted to spend but it turned out to be pretty cool. http://www.olliesbargainoutlet.com/

I'm sorry..... i know there are hardcore collectors out there but for me it's all about perspective really, i don't care if Elvis rose from the grave hopped in his Cadillac drove to the moon and played this game while giving a 24 hour concert for charity, $5000 puts a nice down payment on a car , goes a long way to fixing the roof on my house, can go into a savings plan for a college education for my kid, or just pays a hell of a lot of bills. If i'm down at the local Red White and Blue thrift store and i snag a Chase the Chuckwagon for 1/2 off then thats cool!(I did this) If i am at my local grocery store and they are clearing out the old game systems to make way for the new ones in their movie dept and i snag a complete Jaguar system for $5 and a stack-o- games for $1 each then thats cool too! (This happened to me too at the Giant Eagle in West View,PA) My point is what someone else does with their money is their business but seeing the price for that cartridge just blew my mind enough for me to feel that i had to comment

Thats great news! i'm glad your good deed went rewarded!

Ghostbusters for the 2600 i used to spend hours playing that critter. I think i gave it away when i gave an Atari 2600 to a friend.

Good luck to "littlebrewtus" he is the current high bidder