thursday83

I am totally behind you with the hockey idea. Excellent.

Fantastic work, Bob. And everyone else who helped get it out there. Very cool. My buddy and I played it for over an hour last night.

Ahh, thanks y'all. Haven't watched the video yet, will do ASAP. Many thanks.

So there is just those 2 areas?

Sorry for asking a dumb question. All these years of owning Commando on the 7800, I've never once gotten to the secret rooms I've heard about on it. I've beat the game, I've seen the maps - to no avail. Can someone dumb it down for me a shade and give me in layman's terms how to get to these places? Thanks, thursday83

I will buy it if all the money goes to Bob. Mr. DeCrefuckincenzo, you rock my tits off, also with your guitar work. Just kidding, you rock my balls inside out. Whatever it may be, Bob should be paraded out around like the Stanley Cup. Bob, come up to VT and you have a guitar gig at my venue. Higher Ground. www.highergroundmusic.com. Check the calendar. And we don't have to mention anything Atari. All the best to you, and this thread is dedicated to your awesomeness. Much respect.

I know you didn't. I'm just busting your balls.

See Trebor, I wasn't all that out of line with my post! Dr. Tom has some valid points and good things to say! Therefore making my post a valid one. God dammit. I don't necessarily agree with Dr. Tom's points, but at least he agrees with me that there are some legit comparisons to make (homebrews, times, etc....) for a decent conversation to be had. And, with the number of replies, I am now feeling better that this post is okay being in this forum. That said - I don't think the CV has THAT much better sound, but ok. Yes, 7800 graphics are better. Given. Can't compare RF output, that was what they had at the time. Agreed. Control - I prefer 7800. So we disagree there. I'm not still understanding why people hate on the pro-lines so much, I actually love them, and have never felt this "cramping" after almost 30 years of playing them. I love them. I love the way they feel. CV is stiff and the buttons have so far to go before they actually respond. And that disc knob is for the birds. But, I have to give it more time to accurately rate them, need to play more games. Games - CV might have bigger library - but NOW - as he did state - is a great time for the 7800. So NOW, I'm psyched about the 7800. I know opcode has some new ones out there, I need to check out. I need to get some of the newer controllers that Trebor recommended to really make a good decision or even like the games. I felt Zaxxon, which is supposed to be one of the best arcade versions ever for CV, sucked - but mainly due to the controller. Easy on me on that one.....just an example..... Homebrews: Well, PMP (I.E. Bob MotherfuckingDecrenfuckingCenzo) is the man, I love him, he takes care of me, and it will be hard to find anyone who can beat his ass in anything. I buy anything he puts his fingerprints on. And Ken Siders has done incredible work, and waiting on GroovyBee, miss him, but it seemed as if he was about to put out some quality stuff.....I didn't think Worm and another one I have were all that, but......we'll see......but anyway, I need to be fair to opcode and the product he is putting out, and I am game to purchase some of his stuff before I sell the CV at a garage sale. Overall - I appreciate the back and forth of this forum, the posts that you are all so passionate about, and the vigor that goes into the love of a system that never got enough back in it's day. You'll never get me to dislike the 7800 as a result, but I thought I'd have some fun picking up a CV and trying out some "new" gaming.....not psyched about it yet, but just got Popeye in the mail today, need to try that out....and Trebor and KevinMos3 and lots of others are making this a fun thread and giving me new hope to keep the faith in an otherwise foreign system. And I thank you all for that, I'll keep trying new shit - I appreciate and welcome all suggestions and think this is a great reason to keep these retro systems alive and happening. Even if I didn't like the CV after all of this a year later, I will still support the scene and play a game with anyone who is down, anytime. Best, Friday www.touchpants.com

Trevor, thank you for clarifying, this is good advice, much appreciated. KevinMos, thank you for game recommendations. That cord on the controllers is hard to get past....

Trebor - the reason why I posted it on the 7800 forum, even though you didn't catch the "might not be appropriate" part, is because you'll see a lot of similar titles as official releases on both systems (DK, DKJR), and some ports in the works (Frenzy) or released as "homebrews" (Beef Drop, Bonq) that were original releases to the Colecovision. God forbid I make a comparison in favor of the 7800.

Wish there was a right handed version....

And the subject might not exactly be appropriate. Anyway, I just got a Coleco vision from eBay yesterday. Just to see an honest comparison to Atari systems. Not only am I disappointed, but I feel that both the Atari 5200 and the Atari 7800 outshine the Colecovision overall by leaps and bounds. We could get into a lot of subjects, but for now I will say this. Controllers - I feel that both Atari systems have better controllers then this Coleco vision. Graphics-I feel Atari graphics on both systems are better, and gameplay is more entertaining. I would take 7800 Desert Falcon over Colecovision zaxxon any day, not sure what all that hype was about. Bob and company are releasing games on the 7800 that blow colecovision out of the water, I don't know. Just never had a colecovision, and decided to check it out, and remained glad that I'm Atari all the way. Not into Intellivision either. Long live Atari 7800, and 5200 as well. Any games to recommend for CV? I think that I might sell it at a garage sale next weekend, unless you guys tell me otherwise.

Hell Yeah! Great news! Thanks Synth & PMP!!!

Welcome Back Vinnie! I miss your reviews. Please start doing them again, and give us a link back to the old ones.

If Propane13 doesn't release this game, I'm going to do the old "make your own cartridge" option at the AtariAge store and get my own, with the latest bin from 2011 and KevinMos3's artwork so I can play this, now. Propane13 - what's the latest? I'd rather buy it officially so Propane13 makes money, but it seems this project fell out of interest. I know it would sell cartridges if it was released. Who's with me. I know that's a gay saying, but these games need to get out there.

That's OK Bob, let's do Angry Birds for the 7800 instead.

Mine came in like no time at all - and it kicks ass. Thanks Al!

Nice dude. Glad to hear. Now let's start talking about some more games for this thing, psyched to see what this unit can do! Welcome back Curt and thanks man.

$195? Little steep, don't you think? Even the XM was half of that price. Pretty ambitious to think you would be able to sell 100 of those at that price. Cool looking stick, but going to be awfully big.....and left handed only is maybe something that should be taken into consideration....

Killer job, Bob. Hitting it out of the park yet again. Count me in!

Yes, agreed. I own the arcade machines of Mat Mania and Mania Challenge. It's too bad that the 7800 combo of both is virtually unplayable. They are great arcade games. I was so excited when I was a kid and found a catalog to order Mat Mania Challenge out of, and upon getting it in the mail, and putting it into the machine, just utterly disappointed. No belt mode, all you can do is punch and kick against the computer, the characters get right up after falling down therefore making the top rope option useless, only the 2 identical looking characters, just f-ing horrible. I'm still pissed. That's why I was hoping Atari Team Wrestling was a different project, that someone will dig up. Because there is no tag team option on Mat Mania Challenge. And Title Match Pro Wrestling is a turd too. I wish there was a port of the old wrestling game "The Main Event". Love the wrestling games, none will ever get better than No Mercy on the N64. All of Acclaim's efforts for any system are all garbage.

Road Riot 4WD, this would also have been a nice addition to the library. Reported done, it's a bummer that it didn't make it to existence.

Atari Team Wrestling - yes, I stand corrected. However, I thought that this was based on a different arcade game, not what ended up being Mat Mania Challenge, I did think it was a totally separate entity.....but I could be wrong on that as well.....

I see "Tag Team Wrestling" on that list of never released shit for the 7800. I would love to see what that was about.

Hey Bob. I think people are excited for this release, and rightfully so, as am I. However, it seems that from the beginning that you intended on this being an XM release, and we've all waited so long for that, why not wait until you complete your original concept. I definitely feel for the people who want a normal 7800 release of this game, but I want to see it at its full potential. I will always buy your products, but love to think that you would complete the music the way YOU wanted it, and the way YOUR original thoughts were meant to be played out. However, you might make more money (I know it's not for money....) if you did a normal 7800 release as well. I for one, don't really care for emulation much, I like the real hardware, so I've only played this game briefly in the early stages, I want to be blown away when the cartridge hits the mailbox. This is a tough question, but my vote would be to TOTALLY complete the game, music and all, for the XM, before it's released. But I'll buy whatever you put out whenever regardless, so my vote probably doesn't mean much. And you are the fucking man. Thursday83