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SOLD For Sale: Indus GT for Atari 8-bit machines. Tested, fully working, smoked door intact. The whole unit is very nice. Sorry I just realized the pictures are out of focus. If you need better pics, let me know. Has all the disks with their manuals, plus the overall disk drive manual. I rarely see one of these for sale with all of the disks and manuals... in their original Indus sleeves too. Has original working power supply with the "For use with Indus GT only" sticker wrapped around the input side. No disappointments here... goes great with your 800xl, 1200xl or any other Atari computer. $100 plus actual shipping. I'll double box it and pack it carefully. Prefer cash (PayPal), but will consider trades, tell me what you have, I'll tell you if I'm intersted!

SOLD Lot of 10 loose Vic-20 carts for sale. I checked ebay and it looks like average-to-low prices on there for these would total about $30-$40 plus shipping, so how about $20 plus shipping for this lot. Not a bad deal for some of the very best Vic games, including 4 out of 5 of the Scott Adams adventure games released for the Vic. Adventure Land Voodoo Castle The Count Pirates Cove Avenger Clowns Gorf Mole Attack Omega Race Radar Ratrace Open to trades potentially too. Let me know what you have. Click picture for larger view.

Sweet, save 'em! If you're looking to get rid of some of them, get ahold of me. I have an e, but might be interested in a Platinum if there's one in the bunch.

The Atari kiosk in LaBelle's department store playing Asteroids in 1981! I could barely reach the controls, but I reached up to that joystick and the game beat me merciless time after time. Amazing being able to control the graphics on the screen to the ominous sounds. From then on, the constant begging probably made Christmas seem further off to my parents than it did even to me. Finally, Christmas morning came, and after all the gifts were opened and I realized there was no Atari, I sat there a bit shocked. My mom snuck away and brought out "one they forgot". I opened it up to find... Asteroids! I'm pretty sure I screamed, and my dad brought out the VCS from the bedroom (we called it a VCS then, not a 2600). We only had Combat and Asteroids, but the time I spent playing those two games was more magical than any of the game plays in the 30+ years since. My own video games in my own house, imagine that! When I returned to school, I found that many of my friends and acquaintances had received Ataris too, so we started going to each other's houses to play and sometimes borrowing each other's games. Soon, we were scheming on what games each of us should request for birthdays and such so we could maximize the number of games we collectively had to play. In addition to the head-to-head action, we would eventually collaborate on solving Raiders of the Lost Ark and the SwordQuest games. Only now that I'm an adult (at least physically) do I realize that my parents didn't have much money at all at the time, so that gift is all the more special. But, that investment paid huge dividends that there's no way my parents could have predicted or would even understand now. It was the most magical part of my childhood. I owe that simple little console a lifelong love and hobby.

Not sure what there is to decide since you already have both. ??? I have both too, and I would have a hard time choosing. If I had to, I would choose the C64, but that doesn't mean I think it's "better" for games. Both systems have a lot of great games, have a completely different look and feel, and each has it's own strengths. Why limit yourself? The more the merrier, I say!

No, I know, I mean that's why I have no desire to put an old DOS machine there... because I'm fine with emulation for DOS stuff. About 4 years ago I threw out half a closet full of old 386/486/P1/P2 machines thinking no one would ever want them. Oh well. Sorry for the thread hijack, by the way, just trying to give ideas of how to efficiently use more than one machine in one small space. Hey, that could almost be a whole thread if there isn't one already: show your retrocomputing setup!

No thanks... I'm not very into emulation at all, but old PC stuff is one of the rare things I don't mind playing in emulation. Seems to work well enough (to me anyway) and I only extremely rarely play DOS stuff. Don't have enough time for what I do have. Now, if you had said Amiga 4000T, then we'd be talkin'! I do have to find something different to put there though... hmmm...

Oh, you should see the rest of the room LOL... I'm going to post up pics soon once I'm finished cleaning it up, but I have an original late '60s orange bar, the whole room is woodgrain, and it's all decked out in '60s/'70s/'80s gear... and retrogames! (and... it's 3 systems!)

As promised, my current 8-bit setup. 1) C64 front and center with 1541-Ultimate-II and a rarely used 1541-II drive. The external hard drive right above the two joysticks is also hooked up to the 1541-Ultimate-II to supplement the microSD card. 2) Underneath the Apple ][ monitor stand is the 800XL with SIO2SD. To use it, I just push the C64 back and put the 800XL in it's place. 3) To the left under the brown dust cover is the Vic-20 with MegaCart. And of course, always at the read is the Datasette! I actually do use this occasionally since I have a bunch of Vic-20 and PET tapes. The 2nd 1702 is a spare that isn't hooked up right now, but in theory if I wanted to use two of the computers at once, I could. But I never have. The old PC I need to do something with or get rid of. Hasn't been fired up since about 2006. Who knows what the heck is on that thing. My Amiga setup is in a bit of disarray right now, but it's on a table just to the left of this desk.

Or, Duck Duck Grey Duck if you're from Minnesota. (it can be the Sears version). I actually do like the Hot Potato idea. Maybe use the paddle controllers for 4-player potato action... someone get on this idea, stat!

So? Apple's earnings last quarter were at an all-time high. They will continue to innovate and do just fine. Maybe not as well as in the past, or maybe better, but they're no Atari 1983. Move along, nothing to see here.

Yep, exactly. I have a desk with a built-in monitor stand, then I put an Apple ][ monitor stand on top of that for my monitor. The 800XL goes under the Apple ][ monitor stand, the C64 below that, and I slide the C64 backward to pull the 800XL out and forward when I want to use it. Then, I have the Vic-20 to the left of that, so I can pull it over. The Amiga 500 is on a table next to all that. Heck, I'll take a pic later.

Yeah, I get it. It completely depends on the focus of whoever the new owner(s) is/are. We'll see. I hope it falls into hands that have a totally different focus than the "current" Atari.

I was at work earlier so couldn't really elaborate, sorry... If you're fine with paying those prices, then it's not a bad deal. It probably depends on your area too, as in, how often this stuff turns up. It's just that this stuff is so unbelievably common. They made millions and millions of C64's, and they're still coming out of the woodwork all the time. I pass on them all the time because I already have so many I've collected. C128's... yeah, those are more special. I'd pick up more of those when I run across more. But they're still available pretty cheap if you look and are patient. As for the drives... it's nice to have one or two around to use when you need to, and some people even still like using the real disks occasionally, but so many of us have switched over to CF/SD solutions like the 1541-Ultimate-II or uIEC, making the real floppies and drives totally unnecessary and basically even more obsolete than they were even 5 years ago. I don't know where you're at as far as A) what you want to do and B) how much you already know, but if it were me getting into any 8 or 16 bit computer now, I'd put my money on a CF/SD solution and be done with it. Then maybe pick up a real floppy drive along the way. If you're in the Milwaukee area, I'd make you a great deal on a 1541 and probably even 1 1571 (I think I have a spare), but I'm not going to ship them. Costs way too much, and the USPS is too hard on fragile items like that. As far as ebay prices... you can find C64's, 128's on there for the higher prices listed above, but you can find them for the lower prices too if you're patient. Unless you're in a Commodore-bereft area, you can find them much locally cheaper. In my opinion, this guy you're looking to buy from is pretty proud of his stuff and has prices to match. Especially if they're not fully tested. But... that's just me. If you just really want to get into this now, pick up some of this stuff from this guy even if it is overpriced (IMO), but don't buy too much, just keep an eye out for better deals on some spares if you want them (hey, I sure do understand that, I have dozens of "spares" ) As for selling on ebay... it's rough to unload a lot of that stuff. I've been there, done that. Tons of work, for little profit. That's why I say get it as cheap as you possibly can... really cheap... for anything you're looking to resell, to make it worth your while. A few years ago, I picked up a lot at least twice the size of that in your original post for $100, but there was some Amiga stuff in there too. I still have a ton of the 1541's... trust me, no one wants them, no one wants to pay the shipping on those heavy obsolete pieces of junk. I sold a few C64's and a few motherboards, then ended up parting out a lot of them because I could move them faster that way, and could get more for a tested SID than for a whole C64. Note that I said tested... I have C= test equipment and I spent a lot of time testing them and posting the reports to prove the quality of each one so I could get top dollar. Honestly, I probably did clear $500 profit on the lot (plus kept some stuff for myself and I still have a bin full of keyboards, a bunch of IC's, and the pile of 1541's), but I wouldn't say it was worth it. I could have made more money with less effort in other ways. I'm really not trying to discourage you, and a lot of the value has to do with the condition of what you're getting, which obviously I can't see, but what I am saying, is be smart about it, and don't get anxious and overspend if you don't have to. If I could realistically and consistently get the high prices listed above for my basement full of Commodore stuff, I'd be willing to invest the time to sell a whole lot more of it. Good luck either way. You should pick up something no matter what though. Having a real 8-bit computer setup, whether C= or A8 or whatever else is very rewarding and a ton of fun. If you're new, pick up the book "A C64 Walkabout" to learn everything you need to know to really make the most out of the machine (I'm not associated in any way with the book, or authors, or publisher): http://www.smashword...65936#longdescr

All depends on what it's worth to you I guess... I'd be at: QTY 2: working 1571's with power cords, and a 1541 thrown in for fun... $60 QTY 1: Commodore 128 with power supply $25 QTY 1: Commodore 64 with power supply $10 QTY 1: Commodore 1802 Color Monitor with cord $50 Hopefully a box full of software of games you might have $?

Bull. Those are perfect-day prices. My opiinion isn't based on math, but experience.

I'd offer $200 or pass, but that's just me.

You still never said what your goal was. If you're looking to resell, you need to get it cheaper. I wouldn't even go $300 unless your time has zero value. Most of that stuff, honestly, is more or less garbage. (No power supplies for example). The printer is garbage. The 1541's are basically garbage. If your goal is to have a lot of C= stuff, I think you could do better too. But then, this is coming from a guy who has a couple closets full of all this stuff, so I just don't see it as being worth picking up at all, it's so easy to find.

Right, but you were talking about funding this and that. Unless you mean make profits elsewhere and use them for this, that would work if the company can stand to have a loss dept.

Does the market for homebrews somehow get bigger than it is now? More profitable of an enterprise? If not, then this additional funding becomes a loss.

Oh, I see it now, the big red text top and center on main page. They had me distracted from that with Atari game boxes!!

Are you kidding me? I totally missed that. I ordered $30 including shipping, so I could have had another $5 or so item for free. Ugh... I should have looked a little harder I guess.

Only because they've been wiped down with a damp cloth.

Thanks, I just ordered 2 boxed 2600 titles that I needed, plus a DreamCast game I've been wanting... prices seemed reasonable. I like that they picture the actual item they're selling... just wish they were bigger pictures and maybe more than one. But, at least they have a brief condition description of the boxes, which is more than most sites show.

I keep seeing this on the news and it's very irritating every time. They just said on the news "Remember Atari (while they show an Atari 400 and 2600)... well, they're filing for bankruptcy... they just couldn't keep up with the big modern <something... dogs?>". I hate how they imply it's the same company, and that they're just now failing. Great news reporting, as usual. Not that anyone cares who doesn't know what the real situation is anyway.