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Everything posted by Vrock
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This thing is legit! Very well done controls and visuals. The vector graphics look quite nice. This is what the Asteroids cab should have looked like! I had some dust behind the screen protector, and one of the screw holes for the control deck took some effort to get things lined up. Star Wars and Return of the Jedi play just like I remember. Never played Empire but ran through it and I can see why it wasn't too popular back in the day. All and all, quite happy!
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Being able to use the power switch on the deck is a nice feature. I replaced my deck with this one: https://www.diyretroarcade.com/index.php/skinned-galaga-replacement-60-in-1-control-deck-for-arcade1up-with-trackball-mount.html Not exactly cheap but it's well made (solid wood and graphics that won't wear away), plus it saved me the hassle of drilling out a hole for a trackball.
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The new panels are indeed an upgrade. Better viewing angles, color reoproduction and contrast. The backlight is still a bit too high for my tastes but much better than old monitors, and no bluish/gray tint anymore to the blacks. Based on the above I think we have a VA panel vs a TN here, which is nice. Downsides: anyone looking to swap these into a 1st gen Raspberry Pi'd cabinet is going to have to deal with the different aspect ratio of these monitors (even though it's more correct than the 5:4), because the old bezels were made for 5:4. This means you will see some monitor frame on the left/right, and the bezel actually cuts off some screen on top and bottom. You can adjust for this via software in Retropie to ensure your screen doesn't get cut off, but it would be nice if a proper aspect ratio plexi bezel was available.
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On my Galaga Rasperry Pi cab, Quantum looks pretty good with antialiasing, a HQ 4x shader, and the vector settings properly adjusted in Retroarch. This on the low quality gen 1 Arcade1Up monitor I'm running for now. I agree that vector games are one area where a higher resolution monitor would be beneficial. I also agree that the stock A1U vector cabs look lousy. They put zero effort into mitigating jaggies, which is a shame.
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Oh, I don't know. $150 for a cab. Add a video board for $25, a Raspberry Pi for $35, and a cheap amp for $12. Figure you spend $25 on a decent Sanwa joystick, another $20 on buttons, $10 for the usb encoder. $30 for a trackball or spinner, if you like. And let's say you don't want to drill out your control deck, you can get a custom one for $60-80 depending on what you like. You're looking at a very cool little 3/4 scale MAME machine for well under $400. The nice thing about the A1U cabs is the aftermarket support, and you can tweak them however you like over as long as you like. But yeah, if you just want a "one and done" multi-cab and don't care about how it looks or displays your games, for $200+ more the Legends is a good option.
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The newest A1U cabs appear to have a 4:3, 1280x960 60hz LCD. The old ones had 5:4 1280x1024 monitors, and were quite average at best. Granted, 1920x1080 is a much higher resolution, but these games were rendered at like 224x288, so it's not like it matters. The larger screen is nice, but the aspect ratio is a deal-breaker for some.
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Monitor orientation and artwork mean alot to me; I understand others may not care as much but these things are about nostalgia after all, and the design and marquee of the Legends cab doesn't fit that bill. Price is another area where Legends Ultimate loses, at least from a certain point of view. In my view, for $150, someone can get a A1UP cab and if they like, tinker with it down the road and come up with a neat little MAME machine for much less than the $599 asking prices of the Legends. They are two different products that cater to different tastes, for sure. I'm not one of those Atgames haters....I'd have dropped $500 on a Legends machine with a proper monitor and cabinet design. Just food for thought when y'all design the second generation of this thing.
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I feel the ATGames Legends has potential, but suffers from a identity crisis. Had they just set out to make a great, authentic looking MAME machine I would be all over it. But the widescreen monitor, lackluster cab design, and ugly artwork make it less appealing at $599. Knock a hundred bucks off, put in a proper 4:3 screen, and give the option for other artwork wraps, and I'm there. Also, keep all the console games, they feel shoehorned in and there's no point in playing these on an arcade cab. I know, I want it all.
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It seems the latest cabs, starting with Marvel and TMNT, have an "upgraded monitor." It's made by BOE and the model number is DV170YGZ-N10. On paper it has slightly better viewing angles than the old monitors, and in reviews it seems to have better color and black levels. I bought one on ebay for $70 to swap into my Galaga retropie cab, we will see how it works.
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You will see tearing if you flip the system using display_rotate in the config file. If you flip it using the libretto emulator settings, it's smooth as silk. The downside is that Emulation Station and other configuration screens can't be flipped, so they will be sideways. Hopefully that's addressed at some point in an update.
