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Is there a technical reason why some Atari 2600 games just run and look better than their 400/800 counterparts?
I am looking at Asteroids/Defender/Missle Command and maybe a few others.
Was it because there are things the 2600 could do that the 400/800 could not? Was it just mediocre programming and just poorly made versions?
I thought I read somewhere that the 2600 could do some things actually better?
Asteroids and Missle Command are interesting examples. While the graphical fidelity looks superior on the Atari computer versions, they both play so much smoother on the 2600.
Sorry if this topic is old, thanks!
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Thanks for your help.
At this point I don't think its worth the $150 though. The point of it is to play them via HDMI.
The JZINTV emulator is working great for me, along with my Vision-Daptor and real Intellivision controllers. I also have all of the overlays.And with the Intellivison clunky controllers if there is input lag, I sure as heck don't notice it in the JZINTV. This is why I was thinking of doing this, the reaction times on a CRT are unbeatable.
But even with a RetroPie on a CRT vs the JZINTV on my computer I doubt I would notice that much of a difference.
Plus technically I would be spending $150 for basically a handful of games that are already on the Intellivision Flashback. I mainly use the emulator for games that aren't on there like Tron games, etc. -
Yeah, If I am gonna spend $150 I want this to be setup for me beforehand and tested. Meaning output to composite working and not stretched.
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I didn't ask again IF I could use composite, I know it was answered earlier. if you read what I wrote, i asked about edges being cut off. Thanks for your reply!
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Was hoping someone could answer my previous question and I have one more.
1. If I purchase this, and want to use it on my Commodore monitor through composite, wont the edges be cut off as the nice interface is built for widescreen?
2. Can I easily remove and add roms?
Thanks!
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Do you do upgrades that include a composite output and audio as well? I would love to run this on my Commodore monitor. Trouble is your menu system is all widescreen.
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Do you do upgrades that include a composite output and audio as well? I would love to run this on my Commodore monitor. Trouble is your menu system is all widescreen.
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I have an Atari 800, Commodore 64 and Atari 2600 all running through a 4 port Composite switch.
The output of the 4 port switch connects to the back of the Commodore 1702 Chroma/Luma inputs. (I did not know it but these standard composite cables carry the Chroma / Luma signals just fine).Unfortunately the Atari 2600 suffers some slight interference though. I have the Atari 2600 s-video mod with an s-video to composite cable. When I plug that directly into the back of the 1702 the picture is perfect. When I run it through the switcher I get interference. I have tried many combinations but nothing seems to work unless the Atari is connected directly to the back of the 1702.
Here is my idea. I am thinking that I need to get all signals s-video directly to the 1702 or find a better switch. What if I get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/RCA-CRF940-Modulator-Gold-Plated-Connectors/dp/B00008X5DD/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8#customerReviews
Here is the back picture:
Then I just run an s-video cable from the Atari 2600 into Input one. Run Atari 800 and Commodore 64 s-video cables into Input 2 and Input 3.The output would just be an s-video to composite that would go into the Chroma and Luma on the back of the Commodore 1702 monitor.
Would this type of thing potentially eliminate the interference for the 2600?
Thanks!
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Atari Flashback 9 has a composite version I am told. I am interested in this so I can use it on my Commodore monitor. Unfortunately this uses the AtGames emulator and not Stella.
So my question is twofold:
- Is there a firmware upgrade to allow you to play all Atari games via the SD Card that works with the Atari Flashback 9 composite version?
- Secondly, is this even worth it without having Stella?
Thanks!
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Worked, thanks!
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6 minutes ago, mr_me said:What operating system?
I just tried the latest version for windows and it crashes when I enable intellivoice "-v1", any rom. If I remove the switch everything runs fine including B17 (without the voice).
Try the previous version.
Windows 10, latest version. Must be a recent Windows update? I will try the other version.
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I am using the Jzintv emulator and I am having trouble with Intellivoice games freezing.
I have tried pretty much everything and am out of ideas. Maybe I need better Exec or Grom files? I have voice enabled and every game works fine except the voice ones. B-17 Bomber starts up "Mattel Electronics Pre.." and then the emulator frezzes.
Any ideas?
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11 minutes ago, fdr4prez said:OK, your original post made it sound like you already have a Pi.
No worries, we are all here to help.
I've never used the composite out from the Pi, but it is there.
Yeah no worries thanks!
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31 minutes ago, fdr4prez said:Well I'm confused.
You state that your Pi is connected to LCD HDMI
And mr_me correctly stated:
Do a google search and you can see that this is a quite common issue.
So if you don't want lag, then connect your Pi to the 1702, as mr_me recommended:
All Pi have composite out, so this will fix your lag issue.
You also stated:
So what is your computer's display? You don't mention if it is an HDMI monitor or not.
If it isn't HDMI then you can get a RPi VGA HAT and connect your Pi to the same display as your computer.
I am not getting why any of you are confused. Lets start over.
1. I never said I owned a Pi. What in this sentence sounds like I own one?: "But running a Pi and then through your LCD HDMI seems like there would be some input delay. Thoughts?"
2. I use the Flashback on the Commodore 1702, but it lacks the Tron games.
3. I also use my computer to play Nostalgia for the Tron games.
4. I would like to have ONE PLACE where I can play all of my Intellivision games (preferably on the 1702). I can do this on the Nostalgia but prefer the 1702.
5. I am thinking of getting my Intellivision Flashback modded (hence, why I posted in this thread)
6. I was concerned about lag but that seems to have been answered because you can do composite out on the Pi instead of going through an LCD which would introduce some lag.
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33 minutes ago, mr_me said:You must have a video card in your computer that outputs composite. Does it output a proper 240p signal. You can install the same jzintv emulator and emulationstation frontend that's on the raspberry pi on your computer if you like.
I don't think you are understanding me. I do NOT use my computer to the 1702:
I use the Flashback on the Commodore 1702.
I also use my computer to play Nostalgia for the Tron games.
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3 hours ago, vintagegamecrazy said:What type of intellivision controller? I have extras do you need one for an intellivision one or an intellivision 2?
Intellivision II would be good, if it is in good condition. Do you have two?
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5 hours ago, mr_me said:Connect your raspberry pi to your 1702 monitor and you should get similar response as the flashback. How are you running nostalgia on the 1702? All digital televisions have latency but some models are worse than others, so select the right TV. You can also improve that latency by turning off picture processing in your TV e.g. game mode.
Oh sorry didn't explain. I use the Flashback on the 1702. I have one controller unhooked from the Flashback and attached to my computer via the Vision Daptor to play the games that aren't on Flashback (Tron, etc) on Nostalgia.
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My issue is input delay as I am very sensitive. I play Atari 800, Commodore 64 all on CRTs because I can notice that response time delay.
I have my Intellivision Flashback hooked up to my Commodore 1702 monitor and the response time is instant. Heck even on the Nostalgia emulator too which is slightly more noticeable but not bad. I use that for the Tron games and others that were not included on Flashback.
But running a Pi and then through your LCD HDMI seems like there would be some input delay. Thoughts?
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I know I am supposed to post this in the wanted section, but I figured why would you guys bother to look there?
I need an Intellivision controller, maybe a pair. Does anyone have any extra they could sell me?
Or an extra Intellivision Flashback?
Thanks!
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I also had thoughts of getting an Intellivision hooked up somehow. I will be happy with an Intellivision Flashback or even one controller to emulate on PC. Cant find a controller, lol.
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Gosh the 7800's are EXPENSIVE, especially modded ones.
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Yes I have the UnoCart for Atari 2600 as well.
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Okay I have a nice setup.
A Commodore 1702 monitor with a Commodore 64, Ultimate II and Atari 800xl with UnoCart all connected to the back via s-video (chroma/luma) with a switch box to choose what system you are playing on and the switcher for audio to the speakers.
I got the urge so I purchased an s-video modded Atari 2600 to connect to that switch box as well.
While I truly love my 8-bit computers I am thinking the 2600 was a nostalgic purchase. Almost every game can be played on the C64 or 800 and better. Sure there are a handful of games that are only on the 2600 that I like but Stella emulation on the PC has almost no response time delay.
Thoughts?
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Want to buy one for use with an emulator and adapter on my pc, thanks!

Why are some Atari 2600 games better than Atari 400/800 versions?
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Yes but please tell me you've tried the Commodore 64 version of Defender. With the C64 smooth scrolling technology it is amazing.