Atari 800XL vs C64: Best Versions of Games

[Atari 800XL vs C64: Best Versions of Games]

My issue is this. I purchased a C128 with Ultimate II so I am beginning to wonder if I even need to spend more money on an SD solution for Atari and an Atari 800XL if the Commodore games make me happy?

[Atari 800XL vs C64: Best Versions of Games]

Am I to assume that Commodore verisons are always better than Atari? I know that Atari has a better color palette but Commodore has better sound and overall graphics.

 

I am putting together Commodore 128 and Atari 800XL systems with SD solutions and I am a bit confused. I need a real pro here:

 

Ultima Series: Obviously Commodore. Music is amazing.

 

But what about games like these:

 

Bruce Lee

Star League Baseball

Lords of Conquest

Realm of Impossibility

Archon and Archon 2

M.U.L.E. ( I heard this is better on the Atari)

 

I also notice some awesome RPGs are not even available on the Atari 800.

 

Should I just use my Atari for mostly "arcade" like games? You know, Ms Pac Man, Pitfall 2, etc, etc...

[SIO2MicroSD - An Arduino Project]

I would like one too. Not sure if one is available. If it is cheaper than a regular SIO2SD that would be good.

[Garage Fun: Atari 800 or Commodore 128?]

I never said emulation

[Atari 800XL and SIO2SD Combo $60]

Darnit...lol

[WTB: Atari 800 or 800XL]

Want an Atari 800 or 800XL. Please let me know if you have anything. Thanks!

I am in the 91355 zip code, Los Angeles area.

[Sold!: Atari 800XL Computer (NTSC) & Accessories - $60.00]

I am getting one on Sunday. This looks in nice condition.

[Garage Fun: Atari 800 or Commodore 128?]

Then I think you know whats next? That PC? Yup thats right, it does not belong there. Replace it ASAP with an IBM 486 so you can play native DOS games properly.

[Garage Fun: Atari 800 or Commodore 128?]

Thats a great setup because in effect you have three levels, the two systems and the monitor. Sweet.

I love that old phone you have on the far right. If I didnt know any better and the pc wasn't there, this pic would look like it was from 1984. Take that as a compliment for us nostalgia types..lol

[Garage Fun: Atari 800 or Commodore 128?]

I am really leaning towards an Atari 800 for fun, and using a Commodore Vice emulator for all my Ultima and RPG needs.

What do you think?

[Garage Fun: Atari 800 or Commodore 128?]

Well now I am confused. I just don't know what to do. I really could use your guys help. I have the urge to create a nice setup of a classic computer system. We have an area planned out in the garage and I have a $1,000 budget. As you can see in this thread http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/207946-is-this-commodore-deal-good/ I am tempted to purchase a nice Commodore lot. Later in the thread I have negotiated the purchase down to $200.

 

But I am so torn. First off, I love emulation, I really do. But I really want my own area in the garage to get away from the kids and wife when I need to and just go back to the classic systems. I do not want to buy I bunch of stuff and sell it. I just want a nice setup with a mioniotr and a bunch of games. Now, the question is which classic computer system?

 

1. Commodore 128

The Commodore 128 is my all time favorite system. I owned one from 1986 until 1992. However, I feel that once I have all this set up, and wait for the long load times I might begin to think "why in the world am I doing this". I do not care for the floppy drive speed. I also balk at the idea of having to re-purchase all of these great disk games and overpaying from them on Ebay. I am an rpg and Ultima fan, so getting Ultima 1 through V, Bards Tale, Might and Magic, etc could be expensive. So this leads me to 2 options. I could continue with my emulator and I also use a nifty Atari 2600 usb joystick, or I can go the Commodore SD card route. Mirage in that other thread mentioned getting a CF/SD solution like the 1541-Ultimate-II or uIEC. I am concerned abou the amount of work it will take to get these things working. There are at least 2 or 3 other solutions like this and all of the website list all these scematics and make it sound really involved. I would love know which one of these is the easiest to use, and does not require JiffyDOS. I also want to know if I don;t have JiffyDOS, is the speed still much better than a 1541 or 1571 drive. In other words, which one of these SD solutions is so easy a dummy can use it?

 

2. Atari 800 or 800XL

Why I want this? Well, I was never an Atari computer person. Well, I did own an Atari 400 for a time which would siplay Ultima games in black and white. To me, the Atari 800 (not the XL) just looks sexy. Plus, I have found that emulation on the Atari 800 and the availability of roms and programs is lacking. My only concern here comes with the game library. I don't think the Atari 800 has the game library that Commodore 64 does. Tons of cartirdges yes, but where are all the disk games? I don't see them. And that means big bucks on Ebay. But still it would be fun to run an Atari 800 in my garage. Are there nay cuttle cart or SD type solutions for Atari? And if so, are they easy to use?

 

Thanks for your help!

[Is this Commodore Deal Good?]

Thanks Mirage. I sent you a long PM...

[Is this Commodore Deal Good?]

We are working on a sub-deal

 

QTY 2: working 1571's with power cords, and a 1541 thrown in for fun...

QTY 1: Commodore 128 with power supply

QTY 1: Commodore 64 with power supply

QTY 1: Commodore 1802 Color Monitor with cord

a box full of software he has and joysticks

 

His offer is $250. I said I would pay $200.

[Is this Commodore Deal Good?]

I am not getting your math.

 

You can't move or sell the 1541-II's without power supplies. Value = $0

The 1541's go for $10 each so that's $140

4 C64's that work run about $50 each so that's $200

3 1571's x $50 = $150

3 C128's with no power supply, have to be worth $20 each no? = $60

2 C128's with power supply $60 each x2 = $120

Plus all the extra software and joysticks.

 

This value is $670 at minimum.

[Is this Commodore Deal Good?]

Update. He has located two power supplies for the commodore 128. Not sure if this changes things.

My goal with this is to have a working C128 setup, with some backup hardware in case I need it. I will move whatever I dont need on Ebay.

He is staying at $400 firm

[Is this Commodore Deal Good?]

I talked him down to $400.

Should I move on this now?

[Developing USB adaptor for Colecovision & Intellivision controllers]

I am having a devil of a time getting this work at all for Intellivision.

I am not even concerned about the emulator settings at this point. Heck, in the Device section of Windows 7, barely any of the buttons work.

I have gone step through step on everything.

[Is this Commodore Deal Good?]

I have an offer from someone in the local paper.. He wants $550 for everything..

 

(All are tested and work great - physical conditions vary - all have been wiped down with a damp cloth)

(Disks are not tested and are copies and compilations)

 

QTY 4 Commodore 64 Systems - come with power supplies and video cables

QTY 5 Commodore 128 Systems - no power supplies or video cables

QTY 1 Commodore 1802 Color Monitor - Comes with attached power cord

QTY 1 Commodore MPS803 Printer (condition unknown - no ink or paper to test - responds to commands) - 20.00

MANY various joysticks & 100's of disks

 

QTY 12 Disk Drives 1541's - various models

QTY 1 Disk Drive 1541 with original RAMBOARD installed - comes with power cord and a copy of Maverick to use with the RAMBOARD

QTY 4 Disk Drives 1571's - come with power cord

QTY 4 Disk Drives 1541-II's - no power supplies - 20.00 each (Tested and working with my personal power supply)

Many IEC cables - add 3.00 for each. Limited supply available.

 

more miscellaneous software and accessories / literature in boxes.

[Does Nostalgia Last 20 Minutes?]

Hey Ransom, I like your avatar.

 

The Adventures of Tron is a free download for Intellivision (so I am not breaking the ToS) but it does not come with the config file. Nostalgia (how ironic) requests that it needs a config file. Help me so I don't have to play the 2600 version!

[Does Nostalgia Last 20 Minutes?]

These are sweet. Just ordered one..

 

http://www.atarimuseum.com/classic2/index.html

[Does Nostalgia Last 20 Minutes?]

I posted an ad in the wanted section.

 

http://www.atariage....i-800-c128-etc/

 

Meanwhile, if any of you know of a classic system deal or have one you want to sell me, PM me.

 

I am going to let the tide take me. Whatever comes up and presents itself as a good deal, will be the system I get.

[WTB: Classic Computer System, Atari 800, C128, etc...]

I am looking for a classic computer system. I live in Los Angeles if you need to calculate shipping or plan a meeting.

 

I am mainly looking for these:

 

Commodore 128 with 1571 drive(s) and/or a Commodore monitor.

Atari 800 with drive and monitor

Apple IIe with drives, monitor.

 

I would prefer an Atari or Commodore. Please list all that you have.

 

Thanks!

[Atari 800 and 1050]

PM Sent

[Does Nostalgia Last 20 Minutes?]

Yes I just ordered an Atari 2600 style usb controller for my Atari 2600 and Commodore emulator needs.

 

But I still have this itch to create this awesome area in my garage. A desk, lamp, a strip of carpet, and a classic gaming computer.

[Does Nostalgia Last 20 Minutes?]

This post came up while I was typing mine, and pretty much contains the exact same message. Well said sir.

 

Yes but he did not take into consideration the emulators. The trend in this topic has suddenly switched to the games. Games you can easily play on an emulator. I prefer the old games no question over the new ones. Its just that why should I use slower hardware over fast emulation? Or more importantly, why do some of you do it?