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You don't seem to understand how oxidation works.

One of the few things I can't stand about this forum and the Atari game community in general. Price Gougers.

I hear that Cuttle are hard to find because they can change color! Oh wait, you wanted the the the Atari 7800 cartridge, too bad they are out of stock/production. I know they're out...maybe one great day they will return.One yummy day..................... Finally got one, right here on good ol Atariage! Hope it's working well. Hope I won't regret it in a few weeks...

yes. Ok, whatever you say. Keep in mind, How many friends kept their systems plugged in for years? I am one of those. Only 1 went bad on 7 systems. Wouldn't 1 out of 7 going bad tell you that it can, and does happen?

yes.

PC power supplies have cooling systems/fans. Ataris don't.

PC power supplies don't constantly stay warm and drain power while plugged in, like the transformer cube AC adaptors that go to Atari systems.

I know that part of this last update was fixing the sound not remaining at the sample rate you last chose - but that's stuff in the windows/shell stuff, not changes to the Audio portion of the emulator. It works ok on mine.

Noted. Sorry for the mess. One thing I did notice on Prosystem 1.3 on Windows - the attract mode of Beef Drop(final Demo) doesn't play anymore. The game starts and plays ok if you hit the fire button, but the attract mode never comes up. This was working fine in previous versions.

Um...lie.....you said to give you a rom and you do it for me. In post # 54 of this thread. And when I told you a don't do bins...as you did not get that the first time I said it...you replied with... In post # 56 of this thread. Sure comes across like you were trying hard to get a bin...that was not being helpful, especially after me telling you I dont give them out. Try again Space Cadet. LOL! Lash out ans nasty comments? Lie #2 or probably better read as a misperception on your part. You being turned down for a bin is your idea of nasty. As if I don't even have a right to deny you....for what ver reason. My reply to you was......In post # 57 of this thread. and...after reading along the posts....I thanked yuou....nasty? Not so far. Then.... The only nasty here is aimed at MS and the need to overfill you HD with stuff I dont need for anything else. I am not going to waste 100 megs of space just to find a small key for a 32k rom. Ever hear of efficiency in times of scarcity? And this was'nt a good enough reason for you...you had to throw another shot at me as if you would change my mind of something....remember? In post #73 of this thread? You really live in a dream world dont you? Go re-read this post agan and see how you like to twsit me into the bad guy when its you who is clearly the antagonist. The moderator warned you, not me. Gt a clue. I never called anyone a thief or a bad guy in the 7800 forums. What I did is tell you that I dont give bins and you have essentially been quite a pain in the ass about it since then. No reason too good to stop you from pesting me is what I've been seeing. Not one other person here acted liked you ahve over this so far...not even close. Good then quit imagining it. Another lie....Never said you were stealing...more like trying to weasel a copy. I guess you were never told no much in your life, were you? Apparently you missed the smiley face when asked for a bin - indicating that I was JOKING with you, because you've been so adamant about not giving out roms. Whatever. I tried to help you. So did others. I'm taking the high road. You're not worth my time trying to help you.

Snippy, impatient, a bit crass and worst of all as if I owe you something. I guess I come across to you as some one who was born yesterday. I dont have any 7800 testers. That would require a game to test. I dont have that. I have demos and protos that will only go as far as my dev kit allows. Sometimes trying to help can be more annoying than helpful especially when you have pointed out reasons, reasonble ones as to why you can't accomodate a certain solution. Yet those reasons seem to fall on deaf ears(blind reading eyes.) Why is that you think? Is it because 'help' is not the real underlying issue? How about the lack of self control to wait for a possible new game and a willingness to take to whatever means necessry to obatin that game well before its worthy of a cart, never mind an emulator? This is more like how you are coming across in just about every post you have made to me. I explained to you my reasons. If that is not good enough for you than I dont know what to tell you. I dont appologize for them and I certainly do not appreciate the mis-representation on my intentions. Im sorry but Im am not too comfortable with people who tend to be TOO willing. You have made several attempts to get a copy of a bin I don't intend to give out to anyone outside of my test group. If your only motive to 'help' is to get a bin copy , Im sorry to have to disappoint you. I explained to you how to get the hash values the Prosystem emulator needs to recognize your game, all by yourself. That wasn't selfish, or any underlying "alterior motive" to steal your games. As a response to this, you chose to lash out and make more nasty comments because you claim it would take up too much HD space. No I don't have any alterior motives. No I'm not trying to steal your games. I'm sorry you were burned by someone in the Jag scene or where ever, but over here in the 7800 forum there aren't any bad guys, and we don't wear black hats. From the very first second you started posting over here all you've done is accuse people of trying to swindle you. And I don't appreciate being bitched at and accused of trying to steal you stuff just for trying to help you - for free.

$400.00

The homebrew and various programming forums are some of those that I enabled indefinite editing on posts for this very reason. When we make the switch to IP.Board 3.0 early next year, I will likely be adding the IP.Downloads module, which will be well suited for posting and revising homebrew binaries and will pretty much eliminate that issue. ..Al Cool!

I was gonna say --- 3DO was an awesome system.

I understand the thinking here, but won't this subject the forum database to unneeded bloat, because ongoing WIP homebrews will need to be reposted dozens of times, instead of just editing the top post of said thread?

MESS on the Mac? double ouch. that's like trying to emulate Chutes & Ladders on a See & Say.

I realize that last post might come off as snippy, but really - I don't mean it that way. (where the hell did that damn Edit Button go?) I would have offered to be a tester a while back, but I don't have a CC2 anymore, so I can't test on real hardware. I can only test in Emulators now. I'm not good with building real carts and don't' have an EPROM burner. We all really just want to help you, as your game Warbirds, or whatever it ends up becoming, only helps the 7800 homebrew scene in the long run - even if you don't end up releasing it. You just seem really adamant not to want to share anything, and I understand that from a certain point of view...but you've really gotta give a little to get a lot. It almost seems hard to have a conversation about it, because you're very protective of your work (understandably) and that makes for lots of misread statements, and lots of stuff that should evoke a chuckle end up starting an argument. It's too bad. Really, everyone here wants to help anyway they can.

Until recently, I owned a CC2. I played through all of them, at least enough to decide whether I liked them or not. My final conclusion was that other than some of the great Homebrew games like Beef Drop, Pac Man Collection, B*nQ, etc. - I already own the real carts of all the ones I would ever want. I've never been much fo a collector. I just like playing the games, and I already own the the real carts of all the ones I like playing.

You're kidding, right? Who complains about 100 megs of space in 2008? Um, no I'm not kidding actually. My HD is reaching full and I dont have money for a new one right now. EVERY megabyte counts at this time. Of course I could always delete the 7800 games. Well, look... several people here are trying to help you get this working in Prosystem, by giving you multiple options on how to obtain the Hash/md5 value. This was just one suggestion. If you don't have the space, you could always ship the latest .bin file to one of your super secret squirrel testers. I'm sure at least one of them MUST be running EMU7800. Honestly, this stuff (EMU7800, Prosystem, MESS) is part of the essential toolset needed to really have a good development environment for 7800 games. But if you're going to be so unwilling to bend on letting others help you with WIP .bin's, or not willing to install the necessary software that is going to help you out in diagnosing and bugtesting your own games....I don't know what to tell you. Good luck. We're all just trying to help you here. No one is trying to rip you off or steal your stuff.

You're kidding, right? Who complains about 100 megs of space in 2008?

I agree with Mimo... don't sell. Take out a loan, borrow from friends, parents... ... like they say in Willy Wonka... money is common, a Cuttle Cart... now those are rare. Meh. I sold it. Too much money to pass up. The economy sucks so no one is loaning money, parents are long dead, friends are just as broke and it's two weeks before Christmas. I can always overpay for another one later if I want. I don't really have a problem with that. It's worth it. And even still, - now that ZX-81 and I have tightened up PSP7800 (Prosystem port for PSP) to the point where it's near perfect, my real 7800 and the CC2 were just collecting dust anyway. Plus I have most of the games I want for the 7800 on real cart, and those I don't (homebrews) - I can always buy from the AA store. But I hear you - I didn't WANT to sell it. It was just the easiest and quickest way to get the exact amount of cash I needed to cover me until after the holidays.

Sold.

I would imagine there is a tool or a utility to find this hash value, no? It can be found if you try to open the file with emu7800, and then look in the console window. at least, that's how I get it.

If you have means of getting the Hash value for the rom file, you could open the prosystem.dat file with any text editor and add it yourself. For all the rest of the settings, just try copying the values of another Supercart game.

You probably need to add it to the database since I don't think it parses the a78 header very well. Mitch How does one add it to the data base? I assume you mean the 'Prosystem.dat' file? Or is there a tool I need to add it? I'll do it for you/teach you how if I can get a bin. I guess you wont be doing it then. I repeat. I do not do bin's. Well, you need the hash/md5 value from the file to add an entry into the dat file to make it recognize the a78. and it needs to be an a78 with the header, not just a straight binary file. I can't give you the proper entry for the prosystem.dat without being able to get the hash/md5 value from the bin/rom, as I'm not psychic. So I guess you're right. oh well.