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The game system does not seem to be the original for that box , its a woodgrain and the box is for the Black (Darth Vader) version

Interesting thread. I thought I should speak up, I was the other AA member that Thomas contacted and although he did mention Fredric had made an offer (did not tell me how much) and I was in a hurry I just sent a fast offer of what I was willing to spend on this cart (250.00 USD) had I known they had already agreed to a deal I would never have made any offer at all. After talking to Fredric I felt a little used and retracted my offer I am no longer interested. I really feel this has taken a bad turn and I will remove myself from any further interest I don’t want to be the guy that has ruined a deal another AA member had in the works I do feel bad I ever made the offer in the first place and again had I known it was already accepted I would never had made the offer in the first place Please accept my public apology for any part I may have had, however unintentional it may have been, in side tracking your deal

15.00 Shipping seems a bit high for one cart ?

Have you looked at AtariProtos dot com Here is a link to the 5200 proto software page were you can click on the game title and read his review of each game and proto Version You should be able to get a good idea of the game play and how to play by reading his review http://www.atariprotos.com/5200/software/5200software.htm hope this helps

I only see 12 boxes are those the only boxes included in this auction ?

Frisky Tom for the 5200 was a Prototype it has however been released in repro form with label

Have not seen these before but just did a web search and looks like they are everywhere, not only this but power drinks as well

Mr. Lawson gets honored twice this year Here is a link to a recent Mercury News articale 3-24-11 Mercury News article Here is a cut-and-paste of the article just in case it gets changed or moved By Mike Cassidy Mercury News Columnist On Friday the International Game Developers Association will honor Jerry Lawson for all he's done to move the state of the art forward. By Mike Cassidy The honor has been a long time coming. It was back in the mid-1970s that Lawson developed the first video game console system, breaking ground in more ways than one. You see, Lawson, 70, is black. And while we often try to pretend that's neither here nor there, the truth is it is here — and it was even more-so there, when Lawson arrived in the valley in 1968. Lawson started at Fairchild Semiconductor in 1970, when there were very few black engineers working in the valley. Within a few years he was launching and running the new gaming division, where he developed the Fairchild Channel F, a console that allowed players to change out cartridges loaded with games like "Video Black Jack," "Maze, Cat and Mouse," "Spitfire" and "Space War." Few at the time thought anyone could develop a console around its own microprocessor, which is what Lawson did. "The whole reason I did games was because people said, 'You can't do it,' " Lawson, of Santa Clara, says. "I'm one of the guys, if you tell me I can't do something, I'll turn around and do it." He is one of those guys, and that determination drove him to invent the console, develop a series of games with a team that reached 30, start two companies and persevere despite diabetes that resulted in his losing a leg and the sight in one eye several years ago. It's the way engineers are, and the way innovation happens. Every time you see an Xbox or PlayStation or Wii, you should think of Jerry Lawson. He was the first, and though the Channel F was soon eclipsed by the Atari console, he was there at the dawn of what is now a $20 billion industry in the United States. "He's absolutely a pioneer," says Al Alcorn, the Atari co-founder and Pong developer who competed with Lawson. "When you do something for the first time, there is nothing to copy." You have to think of everything, he added. "The cartridge: How to avoid static shock and people putting it in backward?'' It's the little details, the trial and error, the what-ifs, that have intrigued Lawson since he was a little kid growing up in public housing in Queens, N.Y. He set up a mini-lab (two chemistry sets) in his bedroom. When he was about 12, he started building a ham radio transmitter from a manual. "I built it and it worked," he says. "I think the greatest joy I ever had in my life was when I put that thing together by myself with nobody helping me." Lawson says it was his mother and one special teacher who instilled in him the belief that he could do whatever he set his mind to. His mother stressed education, sending him to a superior public school across town that was nearly all-white. Mrs. Gubel taught first grade at that school, and she conspicuously placed a picture of George Washington Carver, a man who went from slave to accomplished scientist, on the classroom wall near Lawson's desk. This is what you can do, she told him. "I'll never forget that woman for that," Lawson says. "It was that kind of thing that made a difference." After he left Fairchild in 1980, he started Videosoft, which during a five-year run produced several games and contracted with prominent companies in the industry. He's since taken on consulting jobs, including one in the 1980s with musician Stevie Wonder. The singer had an idea for a Wonder Clock, which would wake a child in the morning with the sound of his or her mother's voice. It never made it to production, but Lawson still remembers his thoughts when Wonder first reached him by phone: "If it ain't Stevie Wonder, it's Rich Little." He's slowed down a bit. His impressive 6-foot-6 frame is now folded into a wheelchair. But he intends to be at the Game Developers Conference Friday afternoon networking event in San Francisco, where he'll be introduced as a gaming pioneer. It's an honor that came as a sudden surprise. The idea of celebrating Lawson was born about three weeks ago when John Templeton, a San Francisco publisher who's highlighted the accomplishments of black technologists, asked an acquaintance with the developers association whether the group ever planned to recognize Lawson. The association is the world's largest nonprofit trade organization for game developers. Joseph Saulter, who leads the association's diversity committee, told Templeton that his mention of Lawson was the first he'd ever heard of him. "I was really very emotional about it," says Saulter, founder of Entertainment Arts Research, an Atlanta-based gaming and media company. "As a matter of fact, I started crying — just for somebody like him to be left out." And so while the association and its many committees periodically hold formal award ceremonies — honoring the developers of "Donkey Kong" and "Tetris" and games such as "Grand Theft Auto" — the salute to Lawson will be a more informal affair. Saulter, who is black, says Lawson had waited long enough, and delaying his recognition for a more formal ceremony simply wouldn't be right. Lawson's story is too important, says Saulter, particularly to the tiny percentage of those working in gaming who are black. "It's inspirational for me," he says, "because it gives me a foundation to say, 'We go back to the whole foundation of this gaming arena. I belong here.' " As important, says Templeton, Lawson is an inspiration to young blacks who might wonder whether there is a place for them in the gaming industry. Seeing, as they say, is believing. Which is to say that Lawson's overdue turn in the spotlight might well be his own Mrs. Gubel moment.

Looks to be just a pieced together system, I am sure I could put together three or four of these, Hell I could put together the very rare Heavy Six Darth Vader nicknamed the heavy Vader

Yes the description is rather Vague but could be because the seller just does not know. Also if anyone here was interested I would ask if the box fells heavy enough to actually have a game inside, I have some Display boxes that are shrinkwrapped but do not contain any games. Being the sticker says Demo I would think it does have a game inside but better to ask now before finding out its just a display item ?

Could have something to do with the Wikileaks thing as I know hackers were targeting the CC company sites that were stopping the payments to the site and I know PayPal had also stopped or frozen there account ?

OK guys & gals I have decided to sell off all the rest of my PAL games and thought I would post them here first but as I have not been buying or following PAL games I am not sure what a fair price to ask ? I was hoping I could get an idea from the active collectors as to a fair asking price. Not looking for ebay prices but what would be a fair price to ask from fellow colletors. I have looked at the PAL data base for an idea of rarity and included what was listed but we all know rarity guides are for the most part just a guess at best especially when talking PAL games, just to many variables to consider. With that said I do see there were a couple 9's and 8's So here is what I was hoping for, I know this list is long and dont expect anyone to give fair asking price for each game but if you can give me a clue on any specific titles that would be great. I am hoping to let this thread run for a week or two before starting sales but if there are specific games you are interested in you can PM or post here letting me know your interest and what you think is a fair price. At the end when I am ready to start posting the asking price's I will try and give the interested partys first, second, third chance on the games they are interested in according to who asked first, that is of course if there is any interest at all Thanks in advance Here is the list of games I have if it does not have a list of whats included it is just cart only nearly all are collector grade but some better then others I will add pictures as time permits but if there is any interest in specific titles just ask COMMA VID: ========== STRONGHOLD - R8 - PICTURE Label CAKEWALK - R8 - CART & INSTRUCTION - PICTURE label ROOM OF DOOM - R5 - PICTURE label FUNVISION: ========== SPIDER MONSTER - R8 - PICTURE (SAME ONE AS SHOWN ON ATARIMANIA, MIDDLE CART, SECOND ONE PICTURED) SPACE MONSTER - R9 - PICTURE (SAME ONE AS SHOWN ON ATARIMANIA WITH LIGHT BLUE COLOR AND TYPED NAME STICKER) K-TEL VISION: ============ SPIDER MAZE - R9 - PICTURE TAIWAN: ======= CIRCUS - R4 - CIB - LABEL TEXT, GREEN BACKGROUND CHESS - R? - CIB - LABEL TEXT, GREEN BACKGROUND SKI RUN - R5 - PICTURE BLUE TAIWAN COOPER: =============== ASTROWAR - R2 - PICTURE - DOUBLE PACK BLACK HOLE - R4 - PICTURE - DOUBLE PACK TAIWAN COOPER SHORT: ===================== SEE SAW - R3 - PICTURE - DOUBLE PACK MOTOCROSS - R4 - PICTURE 1ST PERSON VIEW - DOUBLE PACK LILLY ADVENTURE - R3 - PICTURE BOOM BANG - R4 - PICTURE RIVER RAID - R? - PICTURE KING ARTHUR - R3 - PICTURE TELEGAMES: ========== UNIVERSAL CHAOS - R4 - CIB - TEXT, SILVER BACKROUND KUNG FU SUPERKICKS - R3 - CIB - TEXT, SILVER BACKGROUND WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BASEBALL - R? - CIB - TEXT, SILVER BACKGROUND - INST. TITLED SUPER CHALLENGE BASEBALL, CART SIMPLY TITLED BASEBALL QUELLE: ======= LABYRINTH - R2 - PICTURE ORANGE BILLARD - R3 - PICTURE TOP GUN - R? - PICTURE SUPER-FERRARI - R3 - PICTURE BLUE FONT BERMUDA - R? - PICTURE RED/PURPLE TEXT PAC-KONG - R3 - PICTURE YELLOW TEXT SEE-MONSTER - R3 - QUELLE/BIT CORP - PICTURE HOT SHOT: ========= SKIN DIVER - R4 - PICTURE FOREST - R4 - HOT SHOT/GOLIATH - PICTURE SANCHO: ======= FOREST - R4 - CIB - PICTURE DICE PUZZLE - R4 - CART & BOX (No Inst) - PICTURE MYSTIQUE: ========= CATHOUSE BLUES - R? - CART & CASE - SMALL PICTURE VIDEO GEMS: =========== SURFER'S PARADISE BUT DANGER BELOW - R7 - TEXT RAINBOW VISION: =============== TIME RACE - R4 - PICTURE ITT FAMILY GAMES: ================ PETER PENGUIN - R5 - PICTURE KONAMI: ======= MARINE WARS - R? - KONAMI label Not the GAKKEN label - PICTURE BOMB: ===== ASSAULT - R5 - TEXT

I'll give you 140.00 for it Honestly you got areally good deal

Yup, Really

Well that makes sense it must of somehow/somewhere been put into a PC Engine case? Thanks for the response's I think its now clear as to How/why its different

Yup Thats exactly like the one I have, I had not noticed the thumb ridges on the front edge but mine also has them as well, Also has the round sticky spot. Mine came in the cardboard box so I am 99% sure it came that way. I am guessing these were late products that were probably produced for cost cutting reasons Oh does yours have the end label on the case, Mine does not and again I am 99% sure it never did Thanks for your response it helps to convince me it was really released that way Dennis AKA FND

Any TG16 collectors who could help me with a question ? I just recently got a boxed Ninja Spirit TG16 Game and noticed inside the box the CD case does not have the usuall plastic clip that holds the HuCard in place ? not only does it not have one there are no holes that it would snap into, the back part of the CD Case does however have the molded raised area that keeps the HuCard from moving around. Also there is NO edge label on the Case (never had one, no old glue) I guess I am asking is this a normal late release that maybe they started leaving out these parts to save money ? Thanks to anyone in advance that can answer this question for me Dennis AKA FND

Oh Yeh I forgot about that, was it only on the controllers or was it on the game system as well ? Have not taken mine out in years and cant remember

Looks like Fairchild must of really liked the look of the woodgrain they used on there game systems, apparently it was not the first time they used it Here is a picture of the 1975 Digital Watch with box notice they were using it there as well http://fndcollectables.com/AUCTION_PAGE/SHIPPING/VIDEO_GAMES/INTELLIVISION/MISC6/watch1975/fairchildsilver4.jpg I wonder who started using the Woodgrain finish for there electronic products first ? Maybe the 8-Track systems or Calculators manufacturers ? Were the small hand held caculators even available before 1975 ?

Before doing anything contact the seller and ask what they can offer as a remedy, they may surprise you with another option EDIT Looks like another post above has the same suggestion ( I posted before seeing it)

PM Sent, from around the corner FND

I have a couple PAL XONOX Double Enders I am interested in selling if anyone is interested please PM me an offer or questions, Thanks. Please send offer less shipping which will be added to the agreed price once we decide on shipping method. I am in the USA Oh I have tested both sides of each game and they seem to work, I can see the game screen but since they are PAL format they scroll. I can't do much testing as I am in the USA running a NTSC format game system and TV but considering the game screen is showing up and can be started or changed with game select I am sure they are working Payment should be PayPal but other forms are possible, Shipping will be paid by buyer. I use Boxed 1st Class but again I can ship using your requested method. Exact cost rounded up to the nearest dollar will be the amount requested. Games are Robin Hood / Sir Lancelot Robin Hood / Super Kung-Fu Scans of actual cartridge below http://fndcollectables.com/AUCTION_PAGE/SHIPPING/VIDEO_GAMES/INTELLIVISION/MISC6/de_sl_rh.jpg http://fndcollectables.com/AUCTION_PAGE/SHIPPING/VIDEO_GAMES/INTELLIVISION/MISC6/de_rh_skf.jpg Thanks in advance Dennis AKA FND

Actually the Fairchild Channel F was the first to have a HOLD button (Pause) on the game system It can also be used to change game speed or time of play without changing the score, which I think would also be a First here is a copy (text) of the Channel F instruction manual that refers to the button Other Important features about the Console games. The "Hold"/Re-program features. Unique to the Faircild Video Entertainment System is a "Hold" button that allows the players to do two things: one, "freeze" the action of either Console game in progress (in order to take a short break) by simply pushing Selector Control button 3: two, after "freezing" the action, change either the time, the speed or both during the course of the game, without altering the score. For the record however since the statment was "The Atari 5200 was one of the first consoles to feature a "Pause" button." (ONE OF THE FIRST) The statment is still correct FND

How would he cover the EPROM window if the cartridge was closed? Uhm, before taking a picture. Simple, take sticker, cover window and then take pictures. What is going on here today? LOL Can't you just close the window shade before taking the picture ? Its very hard to find a large enough sticker to cover a whole window

Are there any other identifying factors beside the lack of a label that would show this is a first run version ?