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  1. So I was playing F1 by Domark, not the sequel F1 Championship Edition which is Amiga/Megadrive exclusive, on my Amiga 1000 I have recently unpacked (the Amiga of my youth!) and out of curiosity I thought I would check out F1 on the ST. Bang, it is IDENTICAL on both, speed and sound. I was expecting weedy engine noise and square wave tire screeches etc but nope it appears to run the same speed as the Amiga whilst still playing up to two samples at the same time via CPU software sample playback. This has got to be the only time Domark did an ST and Amiga game worth a damn. A great game that is great on both......it's just like the PS3/360 era of same game but completely different hardware.
  2. I don't have this on cart, I think I have some sort of Atarisoft branded bundle with Star Raiders on tape (which probably doesn't load). Played it a lot on my VCS but never really got the chance to play it on the A8 back then sadly. It was a system seller for sure.
  3. 'Toy computers' lol shows how much you know, the hardware AND O.S. of PC was similar to a Sinclair/Timex 1981 junk 8bit in technical sophistication. The technical abilities of the Mono Mac and PC XT were also far inferior to any other 16bit home computer (ST, Amiga, Sharp X68000 etc) You try naming important business files and directories in 8 characters for a start so they mean anything to you 3 months later in a busy sole trader operation. Few people need something like SQL Forms based packages in most small to medium businesses. The cheap shit business software bundled with/made for the Amstrad 1040STF priced CGA PC compatible would have put most businesses out of business anyway, and nobody is buying Lotus Symphony on a Mac to run their office/large store. Commodore got it very wrong with their original Amiga 500 double page 'now all other computers are just toys' with a clockwork spring powered PET 2000/4000 look-a-like with ST function keys drawing in the corner. Should have been a doodle of a shitty Mac or a PC 3 box shape with an MS/IBM logo on the side. The only 16bit lumps of shit were the ones designed by enormous teams of clueless pricks and unlimited budgets at Apple, IBM and Microsoft mega corps. The only reason the Amiga 1000 came out a year after the pathetic mono Mac with crap copy of a good OS somebody else designed a decade earlier, is simply because the development for one was funded by excessively lucky cocksuckers loaded with cash and the other built by investment money begged from some private dentists. We are back to 1986 era....when the Amiga 1000 was the best computer and the best games platform technically possible, today it is impossible for ANY PC or Mac to do real-time ray tracing game engines at anything like the price of a PS5 (because AMD will not release the PS5 APU which manages this for peanuts for OEM PC builders to make PCs from). A PC/Mac graphics card capable of any sort of real time raytracing costs twice the price of a PS5 alone lol and you need an i7/i9 class PC to get over the bloatware WANK Mac/Windows OS running your game engine like utter shit. The only reason you wouldn't buy an Amiga 1000 in 1986 was you couldn't afford it, even though it was 50-66% cheaper than Mac/PC option, in which case you got a 520ST or 520STM more precisely (and a SCART RGB cable and a mono monitor bundle) which was 75% less. On something like an Amiga 1000 you could have made revolutionary software for the business environment. A full multimedia database of properties is a little bit more sophisticated than the text only PC based wank in use most of the 20th century where property picture were kept in card file folders and info sheets for properties displayed in the office window had extra copies of developed photos cut to side and stuck on the letter headed text only printed out sheets with glue like a bunch of fucking 5 year olds at playschool LOL. The only 16bit toy computers were Mac or PC compatible. It took IBM a decade and some insider knowledge/access to Kickstart OS kernal etc source code to come close to 1985 Amiga Kickstart 1.1 and Microsoft never did manage it (everything after XP Service Pack 1 is a backward step for OS efficiency/elegance). If you needed to do anything scientific or seriously powerful etc with a PC your first step was to find a UNIX distribution...........this alone cost more than the price of a low end PC XT in 1980s because you need a 6000 dollar 286 PC AT! The closest thing to UNIX on any 16bit computer is Kickstart....developed quickly in the UK by porting Tripos powerful 32bit OS to the Amiga 1000 motherboard in 2 months. How long did it get Micrococksuckers to get a mouse pointer working under interrupt for DOS GUI lol even the mouse is not an Apple invention, it is a direct copy of the 1960s invention with no innovation.
  4. That's an interesting point, for some reason I don't remember the 2mb Falcon being just 100 quid more than A1200 or same price as 1mb Archimedes A3010 (ARM 2.5 CPU version). I don't think you can do much non gaming stuff long term without a hard drive, probably not beyond casual pixel art dabbling/rubbish STOS game coding on any of those 3 systems I just mention. Even using a an Amiga 1000/520ST without a hard drive is a completely different experience and for a gamers only type option.
  5. Used to do the exact same thing with the contact domes on my VCS joysticks in the late 80s, I may have had an ST, Amiga and Megadrive by 1990 but I still looked after my VCS as it was a gift from the gods in my childhood!
  6. The CRT tube and the driving electronics, and therefore the picture quality, was stock rehoused Philips chassis most of the time from what I remember seeing. I was a CRT TV engineer, fixed many eighties TV's in my time, know about most brands from an engineers point of view. The kings of eighties CRT displays were Trinitron and Quintrix (Panasonic's alternative) but Philips had a much more warm n fuzzy late seventies type image like everybody else in that era. I can appreciate the importance of style choices hence my term 'Fashionistas'. With CRT TVs it is mostly down to the alignment of electron gun/shadow mask accuracy and how dark a grey colour the CRT tube is when turned off, there are practically no improvements you can make to improve those by changing the motherboard I personally like the Normende (?) eighties TVs that looked like something out of The Jetsons but today I know the actual picture quality was not really any better than our Fergusson TX TV from early eighties (which had bass/treble/balance and stereo speakers and a pseudo 'surround sound' mode for audio along with SCART RGB for my ST and Amiga so it really was just a style thing, technically we didn't miss out on that much) I would have to ask a friend as I have not worked on B&O audio gear myself so that may be pretty good and actually top of the line quality. They do look interesting but I have no idea what off the shelf parts/base machine they use as the basis for the audio products. Audio equipment has a huge potential improvement via minor, slightly more costly, component changes or even just circuit layout/component placement. Tape hiss, underlying hum from turntable etc are all quite possible to improve, a better needle cartridge than what is supplied as standard for the base turntable from another manufacturer makes quite a difference too, assuming B&O don't make 100% bespoke turntable chassis. You can't make an early 1990s Goldstar TV image look as good as Mitsubishi Diamondtron if you start with an identical CRT tube inside the Goldstar, they both cost the same however. I think Philips and B&O are companies from the same country though hence the TV parts they use. The point is as long as you accept the technical limitations and are happy to pay that much more for something that looks a particular way instead then that's cool. If it's down to design I would go with the twin fold out speaker Normende TV that looks like something out of The Jetsons or 2001 but as an engineer and home movie buff of the 80s I know the money would have been better spent on a 28" Sony for the living room AND a 14" Sony portable TV for me upstairs (if we had that sort of money in the mid 80s!).
  7. I think on the original Domark release for ST you get more samples if you have 1mb RAM when loading the game, the music is stock AY sounds though.
  8. Small businesses like video rental stores wouldn't be getting any support worth mentioning, they would also get zero support worth mentioning for using Windows either (and Windows was a disaster, only idiots used that rubbish for any business). People just bought anything that ran on PC assuming it must be the best for business situations. It's like Fashionistas who bought Bang & Olufsen TVs instead of saving a thousand bucks and getting an identical TV with a Phillips badge etc
  9. I did high level programming for DOS as a final year project. I wrote the same video rental store management system in FAST BASIC (or STOS) and it was identical and did everything a top of the range PC system would do in 1986. Small businesses really needed to be more open minded. If I had actually thought of my estate agent management suite running via Amiga + multimedia database capabilities (interlaced ham images for properties and hi-res lace mono copy for mono printouts) along with all the usual guff you get with bespoke software in the 80s for cheap ass PC setups in the UK nobody would have bought it anyway despite it being 1 or 2 DECADES ahead of what you could actually get on a PC off the shelf. Hell if you had 9mb of RAM you could actually have animations for transition of going from one room to another and back out again and a 360 degree rotation of a spot of the front of a house and the centre of the garden. Problem is people generally go with the masses, after all that Apple has done over the decades......they are only still around today because 3/4 of its competing non Wintel competition self imploded by the late 1990s (Acorn, Atari, Commodore). In the case of OS/2 v2.0 to v4.0 IBM just priced themselves out of the market on x86 OS wars. Point is you could do a lot more with both an Amiga or ST than any 600 bucks bottom of the barrel 512k XT class PC clone running DOS or Windows in the late 80s but business users make 'safe' bets. Only when it is too late do they realise this so called 'business class support' was a pile of useless pre-recycled paper with lots of get-out clauses hidden in any contract or user licence :).
  10. Could have done with being told about this awesome GR 9/11 mix mode you can load images from BASIC for my thread for a youtube video pfft
  11. I am talking about a Mom + Pop store and an off the shelf system with no extra support at all. Same shit as when an Estate Agent bought an Amstrad PC and some off the shelf office CHEAP apps to run his business...and yet you could do it better with an ST for them but no office would ever buy a £299.99 STFM instead of a 549.99 PC 1512 with mono monitor (+ extra for software on both). People just assumed ALL PC DOS software was better back then (more fool them).
  12. I went to an Atari show in 1988 and somebody had a 16mhz accelerator upgrade for the 520ST/STM, I would say possibly 1987 then for 16mhz 68000. I remember this because it was not too long after I got Gauntlet 1 for my ST (Autumn 1987 release in UK?) and I was trying to convince myself spend 50% what I paid for my STM to make horizontal scrolling smoother in Gauntlet was worth it! :)
  13. Same on both ST and Amiga really, they left it too late and customers thought the solutions they had were 'acceptable'. To update a new aspect of your business is really expensive too and scalable fonts is something you have to spend a lot of time on to make it perfect if you want DTP market.
  14. Interesting point, this was always the problem with business. Tell the guy in the large cornershop video rental store you can supply him with a £600 Atari branded system as good as a £1500 non Atari business (mostly PC DOS) system and they would still want to know more about the PC based system! Up to the point of Commodore 128, about when production of PET was stopped, Commodore had a pretty good rep for business equipment even in large corporate/educational/government departments (spot the business not using PETs in 1984-85 video clips!). They ruined that by the time of the A500 era and their name was worthless outside the domestic/leisure market too.
  15. The niche stuff is interesting, for large data processing apps and stuff like Forms based database apps PC DOS was the best I remember. Not even sure SQL existed for ST or Amiga on the professional scale. In the 80s for me it seemed.... ST + mono monitor + 4mb was indeed the cheapest and never bettered for music studios really. Amiga only had one real rival for all aspects of digital video/art and that was the workstation priced Quantel Paintbox etc. Quantel was better but ten times more expensive and not 10 time better even at broadcast recording resolution. I am not talking 1990s Video Toaster I am talking 1980s pioneers like Newtek Digi-view/Digi-Paint and the fact the Amiga is one of the few home computers to display no borders at all etc. DTP...hmmm....I am not sure the massively more expensive Mac setup was massively better than the best ST based DTP packages. We could be into the area here like with the Amiga video setups where for 99% of the people it does 100% what they want and for a fraction of the cost. I really don't know much about scalable fonts etc but I have seen a 1987 manual for the SLM804 which is a real fox among the hens. The SLM804 was a revolutionary printer, one Microsoft would claim to be their invention half a decade later with 'Windows printers' vs Postscript Laser printer cost. I know there is also a really high end PC based DTP system in the 80s but forget the name (Pagesetter? Pagemaker?) but mostly I remember Quark Express being mentioned in Mac emulation as something full priced high street magazines were produced with. Really depends how good stuff like Calamus was at the professional level, something I have no clue about. Took a long time for really decent MIDI software to come out on Amiga, even then the Cubase/Steinberg interfaces seem much more functional and efficient anyway. The CDTV had MIDI built in. I got a copy of First Word with my 520STM (or later free when I took it back to Compumart) and I remember years later trying it with a particular software blitter and it was absolutely fine for my University stuff in 1992.
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