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According to the mirror sale thread over at DP, he has several 10,000.00 and up cartridges, which could very well explain why he lost the house in the first place... I don't know. More power to you and all that, but I think it's seriously naive to think you're going to get any half a million dollar offers here or DP. You should look into consigning it to an auction house where they can sell it system by system. It would be like having Action Comics #1, Detective Comics #27 and Amazing Fantasy #15 and trying to sell them as a lot on Craigslist.

I don't see how one could make that claim in this kind of instance even if CD-Rs were used on it... It's not like playing CD-Rs are the only way the laser could die. (As this case is proof of.) Correct. Lacks the scientific method.... -Lee There's absolutely no evidence to suggest that playing burned games will wear out your laser. In fact, my evidence is to the contrary. Of the six or seven Dreamcasts that I've owned, the only one that died was a launch day unit that never saw a CD, burned or otherwise. The remaining units are ones that I've purchased new, and needless to say have seen way more burned games than factory pressed games. This was an urban legend that started up roughly about the time that the homebrew/emulation/pirate community started figuring out how to properly burn self-booting backup discs. All the early Model One units had a Samsung-manufactured laser which was prone to burning out. Coincidentally, these early units started crapping out at the same time people figured out how to burn their own games, so naturally the burned games were blamed. The Model 2 and 3 DCs utilized a Yamaha manufactured laser that was much more reliable. To the OP; IIRC the Sports edition DC utilized a Model 2 laser. The only way to be for sure is to open the DC up and see if the drive is stamped Yamaha or Samsung. If it's stamped Samsung; it's a model One. If it's stamped Yamaha, it's a model 2. If it's not stamped with anything, it's a Model 3 (which is also a Yamaha). As far as I know you can't replace the Model 3 laser with any aftermarket part (ie, the Chinese junk plastered across Ebay). What would probably make more sense is to check Craigslist for a new Dreamcast. I see one come up about three or four times a week, and they usually sell for less than 20.00.

I could have sworn that I saw them selling for more than that when they were new, but I may be thinking of another Plug and Play. Even 20.00 is a little much for that system in all honesty.

I feel the O2 is a greatly under-appreciated system. It had a ton of fun games on it. I'll go so far as to say I prefer it over the 2600, but that's just my opinion. BUT, I absolutely hate those cartridge handles! They take up so much shelf space and there are no end labels for them, which makes keeping them in any sort of easy-to-find order impossible.

I've had probably a half dozen Dreamcasts in the last decade, and I've only ever had one that ended up crapping out like you describe. Nothing worked until I replaced the laser, and it was good to go from then on out.

Will you accept cash?

Wow, it's that bad? I never picked up the PSP simply because I haven't seen anything that interests me as of yet, but you make a pretty compelling argument why we (game collectors) should boycott Sony altogether.

Hey now... the C64 is definitely not monochrome, and has a massive library of games, many of which are as good as any NES games. (And for more complex games, they're generally better -- play Bard's Tale or Pool of Radiance on the NES and the C64 and tell me which you prefer.) Yes, the load times can be frustrating, but there are some fabulous games that are well worth the initial thumb-twiddling. Get an emulator (which has the added benefit of skipping the long loads) and try out Space Taxi, Roadwar 2000, Beach Head, Toy Bizarre, and Starflight, just to name a few. I'm kind of anti-emulator actually. I have several emus (including DreamFrodo, a C64 emu for the Dreamcast) but I much prefer playing on the original hardware. I've got both an original C64 and the Plug and Play unit, as well. I've played Space Taxi and Toy Bizarre before, and just for curiosities sake I booted up the other three you listed. None of them really do much for me, sorry to say. If I had to pick a couple of games that I actually like for the C64, they would be Shadow of the Beast and Maniac Mansion, but I prefer them more on other consoles. I'm just not a Commodore guy.

Eh, it's not so bad. I got one on clearance for less than ten bucks. Now, had I paid the 30-40.00 it was selling for new, I would have been pretty pissed. It actually looks decent. What store did you buy it in, I haven't seen it? Looks can be deceiving I got it from a fellow youtuber buddy. I've never seen one around my area either. I got mine at Wal-Mart.

Eh, it's not so bad. I got one on clearance for less than ten bucks. Now, had I paid the 30-40.00 it was selling for new, I would have been pretty pissed.

Even though I actively "hate" several consoles, I still feel like they're my children. I can't 100% despise them; they all have some sort of goofy charm about them. Of the major classics, I seriously hate the Colecovision and INTV mainly for their controllers. I later grew to love the Coleco when I figured out that I could plug in a Genesis controller instead of those horribly stiff "joysticks", but during the 80's I hated it. In fact, that whole mid-80's period is full of frustration for me. The 2600 played great still, but the graphics were horribly outdated. Here we had the 5200, the INTV, and the Colecovision with stunning graphics and wretched, unplayable controllers. Remember the AVGN video on the 5200 where he says "Well, if we can't play the games, I guess we can at least watch them" and he proceeds to sit back and watch the demo of Pole Position? That was me circa 1985. When the NES finally came on the scene with its no-bullshit D-Pad and two fire buttons, it was like the gaming Messiah had appeared to save the world from all the awful, unresponsive joysticks and unnecessary numeric keypads. I still shudder at the notion of controller overlays. Of the more obscure early consoles, the Emerson Arcadia gets my ire for its (big surprise) shitty controllers. The APX M1000 I hate simply because I've had three of them so far and none of them have ever worked right. Of the modern consoles, the Playstation and the N64 made me give up on gaming for years due to their shitty games. I hated the 3D movement, and to this day I find 95% of the games on the N64 and 90% of the games on the PS to be almost unplayable. The only reason I own those consoles now is for 2D side scrollers that probably could have appeared on the SNES or the Genesis. I hate the two "video consoles" I own; the Action Max and the Viewmaster Interactive. Could you imagine being a kid on Christmas and really, really expecting an NES, only to open up your present and it's an Action Max?!?!?! I would have hated my parents for the rest of my life. And as a whole, I hate computer gaming with a passion. PC gaming doesn't really interest me, but it's much better than it used to be. I'm talking about the absolute wastebaskets of gaming- the ZX Spectrum, Apple II, C64, Amstrad CPC, and the Atari 8-bits. See, when I was a kid I would spend the summers with my mother in France, and all my cousins had home computers instead of consoles. I would try to explain to them how backwards they were for playing monochromatic games. I tried to explain that the NES didn't require you to write a novel and wait 2 hours just to play the game- you pressed "Power" then hit "Start" and that was it. I would try to describe to them complex worlds of fantasy and myth a'la Super Mario Brothers, but they just didn't get it. I really felt sorry for Europeans when I was a kid. By the time I saw an Amiga in action, I thought it was a good step forward, but I had owned a Genesis for a couple of years and I wasn't impressed. Of the current generation, I like several games on the 360 but the hardware is crap. Microsoft knows how to make a better console, but they just get a kick out of seeing people's systems kick the bucket. I also hate the Zapit Gamewave, the Xavix Port, and the Mattel Hyperscan. How in the hell did these systems even see the light of day? Boggles the mind.

Do you have a link to instructions on what to do? I gather it's fairly simple. Here you go. http://khromov.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/dreamcast-battery-replacement-mod-2xaaa/ He soldered the batteries in directly, while I used a battery holder... my personal philosophy is to only desolder and solder a replacement once when I have the option. The only DC I've ever had the battery die in had the CR2032 (non-rechargable, same battery that goes in the VMU) soldered into place. I replaced it with another CR2032 and it's been going strong for the last five years. (This was before I learned that there existed a rechargable version). The other two DCs I own use the LIR2032 and they're still ticking, knock on wood.

Not entirely accurate. When people actually in the industry talk about a "crash" they're referring to a market crash, and the economic effects to companies in the industry. '77-'78 was a period where the bulk of the companies of the dedicated console industry left the video game industry altogether (there were 40+ companies alone in the US making dedicated consoles up to that time). The bulk of the consumer video game industry at that time *was* the dedicated industry and companies set up to solely support that industry. Even Atari went in to sharp decline in '78, and 2600 sales (at that time still only during the Fall/Winter Christmas season) suffered. Exactly. There were three different points since 1972 where the video game market completely bottomed out, but it seems that many people here don't understand the concept of a market crash. "System A" may have sold well during the timeframe, but if you look at it in comparison to the peak years, one million consoles sold isn't jack squat compared to the TEN million sold the year before. That's not "out with the old, in with the new"; that's a complete crash.

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I clearly remember being confused about Sega's add-on's, along with every other kid my age (I was born in 1982). First it's the Genesis, then it's the Sega CD, then it's the stand-alone unit with the CD and Genesis, then the 32X, then the standalone Neptune unit that never came out, then they restyled the Genesis/CD into the model 2 and later the model 3 for the Genesis that didn't support any add-ons... not to mention the Power Base converter, the JVC X'Eye, the Genesis/PC hybrid, the Laserdisc unit... that's a lot of add-on's and upgrades for one system. Compare that to the Super NES. There was the Super NES (and much later the Model 2) but that was it. Sega dicked around until they made sure that when the Saturn launched, no one would be sure if it was a "true" console or some plastic junk that you plugged into your aging Genesis. They alienated consumers and lost the console war. It sucks, because the Dreamcast was a truly great console. It may be a dead horse, but you're the only person I know of that seems to think Sega did the right thing by humping the Genesis to death. Even Sega admitted that they screwed that one up.

What many don't realize is that the "big" crash of 1983 was actually the second videogame crash in America. The first happened in 1977 when all the Pong consoles and stuff like the Fairchild and Odyssey systems glutted the marketplace. You had stuff like the RCA Studio II that were marked down from 179.00 down to 9.99 in the clearance bins. Nobody wanted this clearly outdated stuff when the VCS came on the scene. Technology is what saved us from the first crash. As soon as the market hit its peak and could only go down from there on out, Atari appeared like a knight on horseback to revitalize the industry. Not so with the second crash. Everyone was trying to become the "next" Atari, instead of being the "first" of whatever. The Intellivision and Coleco were far more advanced than the 2600, but at the end of the day, the games were really nothing new. Enter the second crash. People were just tired of the games until Nintendo came along with SMB. Many would disagree with me on this, but I think that the third crash happened around 1993/1994, when the "advanced" systems hit the market. No one bought the CD-I, Saturn, 3DO and Jaguar because they didn't offer anything really worth plunking down the cash to buy one. Why spend 300-600.00 on a new console when the games they have aren't as exciting as what you can still get on the Super NES? On the other end of the spectrum was Sega who kept raping the expansion ports on the venerable old Genesis with add-ons that just confused the public. Compared to their previous two consoles, the N64 (not to mention the Virtual Boy) were complete failures for Nintendo. Only Sony seemed to grasp the market with any sort of understanding, but it could also be argued that the crash continued well on to the introduction of the PS2. So, in my mind, there were three distinct crashes in the History of Videogaming; the first one in 1977, the "big" one of 1983, and the "Bit war/CD rom" crash of the mid-nineties.

Dude, who are you and how much do you want? That's sort of some important info you neglected to throw in. If you're selling them all at different prices and want people to PM you, what's the reasoning behind that? If you're selling them all at the same price, why not just list the price? And if you're just a private collector, how did you stumble upon 80 units? If you're in business selling video game equipment, I would think you'd have enough acumen to produce a detailed post that wouldn't require five or six responses wanting your references and pricing info. Sorry if I've jumped down your throat unfairly, but I've been seeing a lot of scam sellers on forums lately and quite frankly your sale smells like BS.

I'm in the "Wait for a cheap one on Craigslist" camp but I have the RCA in question and it's been a very solid performer. Great picture, it's digital so there's no need for a converter if you're getting over the air transmissions, and it's lasted me almost four years so far. You could do a lot worse for a lot more money.

I think people are coming to terms with the fact that it's not a 2600. Every console of that era gets compared to the 2600, and the O2 was its own beast. When people finally sit down and play the damn thing they realize that a majority of the games are not only playable, but fun! True, it's not as colorful as the 2600, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the good games versus bad games ratio was much higher with the O2 than the 2600.

Not every flea market is the same. Sometimes you score, sometimes you don't. I found nothing for ten years at the one I go to regularly, then one day found a vendor with hundreds of rare games/systems. I walked away with about five thousand dollars worth of stuff for around a hundred dollars. It's all about luck of the draw. It used to be that you could get a good deal on something because whoever was selling it had no idea what they had. Now with the internet in every home and ebay price checking, you don't come across very good deals very often.

The ugliest systems I can think of are the original Playstation and the original Genesis/Mega Drive. They just don't appeal to me on any level. Although, in the Genesis I case, I think the Sega CD unit mounted underneath makes it look aesthetically better.

Gunsmoke, Contra and Bionic Commando on the NES are much better IMHO than they were in the arcades. The graphics may not be as good but they played better. Altered Beast, Paperboy, and Ninja Gaiden are games that may not be "better" on consoles, but I enjoyed them way more at home then I did at the arcades. Missile Command on the 2600 is one that I like as much as I did at the arcade, though they're nearly two different games tech wise.

It's definitely one of the most successful, but nowhere near the longest. Sherlock Holmes, Batman, Godzilla, and Dracula have been around a lot longer. Anywho, I think From Russia With Love is the best game in the series. Goldeneye is one of the most overrated games in decades. It was fine for the time, but nearly unplayable by today's standards. It hasn't aged well, and I think a lot of glowing sentiment owes more to nostalgia than it does the game itself. The main thing you hear about Goldeneye is the multiplayer. The multiplayer in FRWL tops Goldeneye, as does the rest of the game. Besides, SEAN FREAKING CONNERY returns to the James Bond role for the first time 25 years, what more could you want?

Came across this today: http://fayetteville.craigslist.org/ele/1002756277.html