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  1. My family's first Atari 2600 was a used one with games that my father bought for $50 from a friend. This would have been around 1980 when I was 7 or 8. My parents were broke as a joke, so this was a huge purchase for our family. I begged and begged for a copy of Asteroids for my birthday and they bought me that too at retail price! In retrospect, that was kind of like a miracle considering how poor we were. Most likely a relative gave them the money for it.


    My brother and I (and my mom) spent countless hours on our Atari all the way through our high school years and I have many fond memories of "playing Atari." :) We kept our high scores in a glossy pamphlet that came with one of the games for that purpose (wish I still had that bit of family history!). My brother's games were Berzerk and Pitfall, mine were Asteroids and Super Breakout, and my mom's were Space Invaders and Stampede. Each of us got so good at our respective games that no one in the neighborhood could beat us. Maze Craze was the "family game" that we shared an obsession for and we still play that when we get together at holidays. My mom and I loved playing Raiders of the Lost Ark together as well. When the Atari Flashback 2 came out, my brother and I unknowingly bought it for each other for Christmas. It was hilarious opening them at the same time, LOL.


    My brother got an NES in the late 80's, and although we used it a lot, it doesn't have the same nostalgia for us that the 2600 does. I think the fact that my mom, brother, and I all still have Atari units says a lot about the profound impact it had on us and the good memories it generated. My childhood wasn't great in other ways, and I remember in times of stress my mom saying, "Hey, want to play Atari?" We'd all forget our troubles for a few hours as we sat on the tattered couch in our drafty old house laughing our butts off as we played Freeway.


    So, that's what Atari means to me. What about you? :)


    The family that plays together stays together ;) Great story.

  2. Superman has 2 versions, so does Othello.


    What are the differences? Any way to indicate by cart, perhaps date stamps even?


    Re: Othello, From Atarimania:

    "Two different versions of this game exist. The original Atari text label version doesn’t have the four grid 'markers' that other versions have. "


    Re: Superman, from Atariage Tips, cheats, and Easter Eggs:

    "In older releases of the cartridge -- usually those with no picture on the front (although NOT all of these) -- starting the game by first holding the fire button down and then simultaneously pushing the joystick to one direction for two seconds (i.e. starting the clock by using your X-Ray Vision for a bit) will cause the bridge to not explode, Superman to not change into Clark Kent and three extra (and insignificant) bridge pieces to be piled on top of one another in the subway."


    Are you looking for 3rd party games, or just Atari releases?

    Activision Bridge had two versions- the earlier rom had a bug where (I think) the computer would bid 8NT and the game would crash.


    Yeah I've heard the Bridge thing before. Last I heard no one around here was sure about how to test it out due to ignorance in the game of Bridge. Right now I'm just focusing on Atari titles but is we've already exhausted everything that is known there then we can move onto 3rd party releases.


    Dukes of Hazzard / Stunt Cycle

    Saboteur / The A-Team





    Ok, Rom. Someone needs to say this to you and it hurts me to be the one. Your site contains a wealth of useful information about the Atari. It is by far the most comprehensive. But accessing that information is near impossible at times because of the sheer volume of information.


    This is why I am seeking my information - at this time only on NTSC Atari releases. All of the PAL releases make it very difficult to obtain the information, and trying to restrict searches to NTSC is a fruitless effort because of South American redundancies and other superfluous additions. Please create a United States / Canada only page. Don't take this the wrong way and I pledge myself to do what I can to help you if you would humble yourself to accepting my help...quite frankly as of right now AtariAge and AtariProtos are much more practical sites for learning the subtleties of Atari variations than yours. Cheers.

  4. After digging around the only other example I could find was the multiple variations on Diagnostic Cartridge.


    So we have:


    Basic Math = Fun with Numbers

    Concentration = Hunt and Score

    Pele's Soccer = Championship Soccer

    Football Realsports Soccer = Realsports Soccer


    The above 4 have different names but are the exact same game.


    The following can be considered "hacks":


    Defender II = Stargate (graphical changes)

    Super Baseball = Realsports Baseball (graphical and some gameplay changes)

    Taz = Asterix (graphical changes)

    Pepsi Invaders = Space Invaders (graphical changes)

    Atari Video Cube = Rubik's Cube (graphical changes)


    The following have different versions that exist:


    Asteroids (one with title screen, one without) - how can you tell???

    Diagnostic Cartridge - different versions exist


    If there's anything else to add here let me know.

  5. I would also be interested games which have changes to the ROM that you cannot distinguish from the title on the cartridge.


    If I understand what you're saying, then Asteroids would be one. Although that link is to the prototypes site, both ROMs were released.



    Yes thank you this is exactly what I mean. Are there any other examples like this? Which cartridges of Asteroids are most likely to have/not have the title screen?

  6. I'm not going through the whole list, but I think all but two of the Sears Telegames carts were identical to an Atari branded cart. Some had names unique to Sears, and some were named the same as Atari's, but the labels were different (colors/fonts). Those other two were Sears exclusives (Steeplechase, Stellar Track).


    A Game of Concentration, Hunt & Score, Memory Match

    AirSea Battle, Target Fun

    Arcade Golf, Miniature Golf

    Arcade Pinball, Video Pinball

    Baseball, Homerun

    Breakaway IV, Breakout


    ...and that's just through the 'B's (look upstairs at Atariage for the rest of the Sears games).


    There was a recent thread about this that I am aware of. That was why I didn't mention Sears.

  7. I'm just looking at games made by Atari.


    Basic Math = Fun with Numbers

    Memory Match = Game of Concentration

    Championship Soccer = Pele's Soccer


    Are these the only ones where the name was changed but the game is exactly the same?



    Super Football = Realsports Football (slightly changed)

    Super Baseball = Realsports Baseball (slightly changed)

    Asterix = Taz (title screen changed, is this the only difference?)

    Does Asterix really exist in NTSC?

    Defender II = Stargate (title screen changed, is this the only difference?).


    Now Obelix is completely different from Asterix / Taz, right?


    And, Donkey Kong, Donkey Jr, Mouse Trap, Q*Bert, Venture are the exact same games as the 3rd party counterparts, correct?


    Let me know if there's anything I'm missing. What I'm after with all of this is that I'm trying to determine all games that have different ROMs, even if the difference is only very slight. I would also be interested games which have changes to the ROM that you cannot distinguish from the title on the cartridge. Bug fixes, etc. Thanks guys.

  8. I'm trying to find scans of the different Atari 2600 Owner's Manuals. I also have a "Save on Your Atari Service Contract" brochure - number CO21047 Rev. 1. I was wondering if these have been documented anywhere on the internet. Thanks.

  9. I was playing Dark Chambers for the 2600. Great game. As the game went on it looked like I was losing life randomly. Is there some sort of timer where you lose power? I didn't see mention of this in the manual. Perhaps I was stepping on traps? It looked like I was losing life without touching anything, though. Thanks.

  10. Picked up two boxed, barely used Spectravideo QuickShot joysticks for $5 a piece. They also came with Spectravideo catalogs and instructions. From the same place I got a boxed Swordquest: Fireworld and some assorted manuals and catalogs. One was a Strategy X manual - now I just need to find that game! This all came to $11.


    Then at a different place I found Dark Chambers and 3D Tic Tac Toe for the 2600 for $7. Got to Level S in Dark Chambers and died. Cool game. I'm lovin' these joysticks, btw.

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