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A cartridge drive...? No need for that the C64 cartridges plugged into the expansion slot on the back. Actually, I believe you can. Garak

Golan! Yes, it is. In fact it is the nice. Sorry, couldn't help that.

Most likely. Completely agreed. Lol, yes. Actually I'm a little jealous I haven't had the privilege of getting a private email from Maurice like Golan and Andrew. I've been nearly as vocal against him. Garak

Maurice doesn't own the IP to the CMD products, it's CMD who still does. Maurice just purchased a license to make and sell the items. However, Mark Fellows (I believe I've got his name right) who still has some controlling say in CMD and it's IP is rumored to be rather ticked off at Maurice as of late. Garak

Fröhn is talking about the VIC-II. You're talking about the VDC. The C128 has two video chips. It's the VDC that has it's own video ram that's either 16k (flat C128) or 64k (C128D). Garak Edit: I re-read Fröhn's post, I'm assuming he was thinking about the VIC-II. IIRC, I don't think the VDC registers can be moved around in memory? It's been a while. But irregardless the C128 has two video chips.

Huh? Of course they did. Not only did they release their own BASIC expansions like "Super Expander" and "Simon's BASIC" for the C64, but the later Commodores like the Plus/4 and C128 (especially the C128) had a much more updated BASIC. Also, the un-released C65 had an updated BASIC as well. Of course, by the time the BASIC got around to the C64 and above computers, the software developers at Commodore probably changed enough around in the code that I'd guess not much was left of Microsoft's original code. Garak

I like it. It's laid out well and the reviews are short and to the point. I seem to agree with nearly all of them so far. Garak

Excellent! Yes, one can do either. I'm not sure as I either use the drives I've had since the 80's or an alternate means (and there are many out there) like the XE1541 cable and software on the PC side. Yes, some games did come on cartridge. Out of the thousands of C64 games that exist (GameBase 64 lists 20,600 some entries and they aren't even finished yet!) I'd say maybe less then 100 were on cartridge. Although, Mayhem might know far better about then I. Well, lots I suppose. It's better if you play around with it first then ask questions. Oh, there is also Lemon64 which has a pretty good user base in it's forums. Have fun and good luck! Garak

Well, thank you very much, you are very sweet. I try, I try. I don't know about the A8 people, but it's not like us C64 people haven't heard that argument before! I was going to say not to mention that horrible built-in spreadsheet in the Plus/4 but on the other hand it might scare them to death to bring it up. I have an idea. Any way we can get the Apple and Spectrum people to attack each other while we sit back and watch? Garak

I agree here. Why, with the C64 and A8 followers as one group there would be no stopping us in those other forums against those systems! Heh, you too eh? Garak

I also have something to apologize for: to Artlover for my tone and sarcasm in my response post. These debates get fun don't they? Garak

Yes, and I hadn't said any different. In fact a few posts later I said the 1541C doesn't have switches. Right. Right. Right. I also said it was rather silly of Commodore to not add switches to the original 1541s. To make a blanket statement about what? Do you even know what that means? If I said, "Yes, all Commodore people found setting up the 1541 (no matter what the version!) drives really easy." that would be a "blanket statement". However, I hadn't said that. I was talking about my experience with setting up drives. I never said my experience was the same for everyone. Now you do. Want a prize? Hmm, could be because more 1541's were manufactured over the C/II variants. Garak

It was still vague. I read this, re-read it, and re-read it again. I must say it's an excellent post and I agree with every part of it - except for the XE's as I don't remember what they look like to agree/dis-agree on them. The Atari's I've seen a lot of are 400, 800, and the 800XL (I own two of those, one of which is next to my C64). Garak

Well, you were vague, which is why I asked what you were saying "no" to. For all I know you could have been saying "no" to the 1541C/II's being not of the drive line or about their ease of use which was being discussed earlier. However, to respond to your post I did make an assumption of what your "no" was about and went with the former (hey, this is a debate thread after all. ) Ah, but the 1541C don't have any switches on the back of it either (granted, a few might for all I know. The ones I've seen don't). The 1541-II does though. I will agree that the lack of switches on the original 1541s was a silly decision. But then Tramiel wasn't known for being, uh, cost cutting, for no reason. Also, the earliest 1541s were easier to get out of alignment I will also agree about (still talking pre-C/II here). I know people who had/still have the first 1541's out and really they've had no complaints about still using them. Garak

"No" to what? They aren't 1541 drives? Of course they are. If we're going to split hairs like that then even the originally introduced 1541's aren't 1541's since there were variations in board design and drive mechanisms from early on (before the C and II variants were released). Garak

Two are, yes: 1541C and 1541-II. The third is a FD-2000 (A 1581 compatible drive). Garak

Can't speak for TMR, but all I did was plug my devices in out-of-box. Didn't have to open any of them up first nor use a software method to change device numbers. All I needed to do was flip a switch on the back of some of them - which I might add isn't a terribly hard thing to do. I have a Commodore 'Datasette' I used since the early 80's. I never needed an Azimuth Head Alignment kit either. Garak

I have a 1541C, 1541-II, and a FD-2000 connected to mine. I thought so. No problems here either. Garak

As is the IEEE-488 which the PET (and a variation of IEEE-488 which the later Commodores like the C64 have) used for it's bus. Indeed. Actually, the IEEE-488 goes back even further then the 70's. Garak

This is a new one. Quite a few care about the IEEE-488. Companies like Hewlett-Packard and Tektronix who had the same bus system. Here for fun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE-488. Odd as MS-DOS was derived from 86-DOS and CP/M which weren't based on Atari anything. Your info is coming from a gaming magazine? Tsk, read the classics like "Byte", school girl. Garak

Because the Plus 4 wasn't made to replace or add to the C64 line. The Plus 4 was designed to directly compete against the Spectrum computers. Also, the Plus 4 was supposed to be a lot cheaper then the C64 but management and marketing ruined that and the price was pushed towards the C64s. Garak

Too bad your "facts" are nothing more then opinions. Nothing you post has any merit except to troll. I hate to tell you this but Ohio isn't it's own country. Oh well, contrary to your opinion, the C64 outsold every other computer everywhere. That includes North America and your "country" of Ohio. That is a proven fact and not an "opinion". You certainly are. Unfortunately. I've told you already Ohio isn't it's own country. The school system in Ohio must be horrible. Garak

Reminds me of that saying about what gets posted on the internet never really goes away. You're getting email notifications on this thread? Wow, I imagine that's a lot of emails in a very short amount of time. I can see perhaps the earliest C64 versions being problematic, I'll give in to that. I assume by C64 you mean the older brown ones were more problematic? Still, overall I think they were made well from what I've witnessed over the years. To be clear I'm not saying that all C64 ever shipped out were in perfect working order. Thanks. Your response is more reasonable and rational then the other I was responding to. Garak

I seem to recall Al not liking mass post deletions. Garak

I agree, they looked at a few other systems including the TI99. But not so much at Atari as I've heard some people claim (one individual comes to mind who was banned from this site for some rather nasty behavior). Ok. It is you who isn't being accurate. Out of the years I've spent in Usenet Commodore newsgroups and many Commodore related web forums, you're the only one I recall to ever come up with such extreme retail stories of C64's not working and mass returns. Odd, my C64 from early 1983 with it's same power supply still works. All my disk drives are original from the period they came out and I've never had to fix a damn thing. I know of people who still have their original hardware from back then with no problems either. This is hilarious since those rf modulator switch boxes came from the same maker as the ones included with, say, the Atari 2600. I guess many 2600 got returned in mass droves too. Someone needs to use a dictionary more often as I see you have an odd definition of what 'fact' means. Garak