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Pretty much - I'd be inclined to pick something like LMbench as a good low level microbenchmark, and then maybe the MySQL benchmark for a higher level 'application' benchmark. If you want to compare different OSs you really need to have them running on the same hardware for a valid comparison...

Thanks - will post a copy there. Out of curiosity how do you tend to handle local patches needed to get apps to build on MiNT?

Anyone interested in adding MiNT support to pkgsrc? pkgsrc is a source/binary based packaging system which has been ported to a quite a few operating systems (from http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html#platforms - NetBSD, Solaris, Linux, Darwin (Mac OS X), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, IRIX, BSD/OS, AIX, Interix (Microsoft Windows Services for Unix), DragonFlyBSD, OSF/1, HP-UX, QNX ) In quite a few cases it acts as a repository for patches to enable support for operating systems or architectures when upstream developers are not interested in integrating them. Since NetBSD runs on a variety of m68k platforms quite a few packages will have had general m68k support added to them - for example a recent build list of NetBSD/atari m68k packages is at ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/packages/4.0/atari/All/ Assuming you have a functional compiler on the system then you would start at http://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/porting.html and then try installing the pkgrsc bootstrap http://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/platform...trapping-pkgsrc From the 'Why pkgsrc' section of the general pkgsrc docs - http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html Easy building of software from source as well as the creation and installation of binary packages. The source and latest patches are retrieved from a master or mirror download site, checksum verified, then built on your system. Support for binary-only distributions is available for both native platforms and NetBSD emulated platforms. All packages are installed in a consistent directory tree, including binaries, libraries, man pages and other documentation. Package dependencies, including when performing package updates, are handled automatically. The configuration files of various packages are handled automatically during updates, so local changes are preserved. Like NetBSD, pkgsrc is designed with portability in mind and consists of highly portable code. This allows the greatest speed of development when porting to new a platform. This portability also ensures that pkgsrc is consistent across all platforms. The installation prefix, acceptable software licenses, international encryption requirements and build-time options for a large number of packages are all set in a simple, central configuration file. The entire source (not including the distribution files) is freely available under a BSD license, so you may extend and adapt pkgsrc to your needs. Support for local packages and patches is available right out of the box, so you can configure it specifically for your environment. So... what do people think. Anyone up for the challenge?

The best way to get a fair test is to use the same hardware for both systems. Do we have anyone with MiNT and a spare disk + evening willing to install NetBSD and run the tests head to head? There are a selection of 'portable' benchmarks at http://pkgsrc.se/benchmarks - it would be interesting to see quite how portable they are - do people run things like hbench, Bonnie++, and hint on MiNT? Actually, while on the topic of pkgsrc... its a source/binary based packaging system which has been ported to a quite a few operating systems (from http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html#platforms - NetBSD, Solaris, Linux, Darwin (Mac OS X), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, IRIX, BSD/OS, AIX, Interix (Microsoft Windows Services for Unix), DragonFlyBSD, OSF/1, HP-UX, QNX ) In quite a few cases it acts as a repository for patches to enable support for operating systems when upstream developers are not interested in integrating them Anyone interested in adding MiNT support to pkgsrc? I should probably start another thread for that question... pkgsrc support for MiNT topic

I remember running X11R6 on a sun3/60 (20Mhz 68030 with 24MB of memory) under SunOS 4.1.1. While slow, it was certainly usable. Software always gains features and uses more memory as time goes on, but I would expect the xfce4 to be quite usable on a '060 TT/Falcon. Now thats an interesting idea. I would expect MiNT to be much faster on the simpler benchmarks, but for the balance to switch back for the larger/more concurrent tests - like apachebench. Anyone up for running some tests?

It works fine on a Falcon - the main NetBSD/atari developer has a Falcon with CT63 060 board and he tests with and without it It should work well with TT accelerators as well. Right now NetBSD 5 is in beta and just about to ship a release candidate. If you have a spare disk and evening then please do give it a try and report back NetBSD also comes with (pkgsrc) which makes it easy to compile software as well as providing precompiled binaries to download and install (including the latest Apache webserver, SQL databases, php/perl/python etc)