Metalwario64

Looks like someone doesn't know of the Top Secret Area... Maybe you should check out the GBA version, as you can save anytime and it saves your lives/status/etc.

You forgot to mention the issue with button presses when using real SNES controllers and both players hit the same button at the same time... I think that was the Y button wasn't it? Didn't it like register as the start button if that happened? It wasn't just yours, it happened on mine as well. That ruined the system for me. I would test it, but I gave mine away and bought an NES. My Sister gave me a SNES so now I have no use for a SNES/NES clone any longer fortunately. Also I don't think you've quite described just how awful the Retro Duo's "sound" is. In fact, half the time there is no music, just a bunch of static!

Oh boy it'd better! If so, I'll definitely purchase one!

Those prices are about the norm for "Retro Stores" nowadays... At my local Game Swap, Genesis 1's are $69.99, Model 2's are $79.99, and Genesis 3's are $89.99. They also charge $50 for a refurbished NES with a replaced pin connector, and $60 for a SNES. They have a rack for "cheap" NES games that are between $1-$5 and then they have the more expensive games like Super Mario 3($20) and Contra($25) behind glass.

While I don't think I will pick up the GenMobile, I do think it looks nice, as does the GenCore.

Isn't that kinda similar to the thing that happens when you "Crooked Cartridge" Zelda - Ocarina of Time? Looks cool, to say the least.

Same here. As long as the sound is good and it doesn't have graphical issues with Street Fighter, and uses Genesis controllers, I will be a happy camper! Official Genesis' are really getting expensive; at my local GameSwap, Genesis 1's are $69.99 model 2's are $79.99 and model 3's are $89.99. Talk about gouging! There is no excuse to not use official Genesis controllers with this thing.

I agree. It makes it hard to watch most "reviews" (read: Hate Mongering" on many intarwebz. They try to be just like the AVGN, but they fall flat on their faces, and simply show to the world they unoriginality.

...You are talking about the SNES one... right?

That was proven to be fake. Many people on the Pocketheaven forums (who are into this kinda thing) have discussed this a long time ago. It is also obvious because the screenshot of Pokemon he uses has a yellow palette, which is not one of the default GBC palettes, but is the default palette of Goomba, a GB emulator for the GBA (there is a "yellow" palette on the GBC, but it looks nothing like the Goomba one... and the sprites are blue on the GBC "yellow" setting which they aren't on that screenshot.) ...Unless someone else made a different mod than the one I'm thinking of...

Hmm... I think I know what you are talking about... Was it called a Gameboy Bridge? The Gameboy Bridge is a device that allows you to use a GBA flash cart on a GB/GBC IIRC. Quick Google search yielded "GB Bridge will let you play Gamboy Color roms on Gameboy Advance with GBA Flash Advance Card." Ah, I knew it was something to that effect (thats why I put the 'IIRC') Yup, just wanted to create some back up!

Hmm... I think I know what you are talking about... Was it called a Gameboy Bridge? The Gameboy Bridge is a device that allows you to use a GBA flash cart on a GB/GBC IIRC. Quick Google search yielded "GB Bridge will let you play Gamboy Color roms on Gameboy Advance with GBA Flash Advance Card."

QFT! I could never pull off even the simplest of moves on the arcade version of Street Fighter II, and on the SNES I almost never miss a beat!

Uh... The DS was released in America first... 11/20/04 US 12/02/04 JP Hmm... I think I know what you are talking about... Was it called a Gameboy Bridge? I was a very early adopter, and mine didn't support GBC games like all of the rest... Why do you think Nintendo would release a few early ones with GBC support? Where are you getting all of this from? Or am I misunderstanding you?

So? The Genesis has quite a few stinkers as well, but that doesn't make them bad systems in the least. Just don't play the crappy games and you'll be fine. Exactly my point! Crap games don't make the classics any worse. Every system has them, and anyone stating otherwise is delusional or they are lying.

I've heard that from many people, but I have also experienced, and heard from just as many people that the sound is just unbearable; it literally sounds like static the whole time. What I gather from this is that the defect rate is really high with the Retro Duo. I've even heard of some units having worse processors, making SNES games run as slow as molasses. I gave mine away to a friend as a SNES replacement, but I wouldn't buy another, as $50 is too much to take a gamble. I would recommend the FC Twin over it (the one with the YOBO jewel) but it has one issue that can break the deal if you often times play multiplayer; you can't use 2 official SNES controllers at a time; if you press certain buttons at the same time, it will pause the game. There's also a standalone NES clone called the Retro Entertainment System. That one has seemingly perfect sound and colors, but it also has issues. On games with heavy DPCM usage, the sound hits the wrong notes quite frequently, enough to ruin the experience as it can play a high pitch suddenly and could break your concentration (Metroid is just unbearable on it.) After I went through all of these experiences (and money!) I decided it was time to break down and hunt out some official hardware. I haven't had a good experience with a clone yet!

Agreed. I am glad someone else finally agrees that the NES wasn't the only system with a bunch of crappy games. I mean, look at Pacman and E.T on the 2600! The tone some people are using makes it seem as though they think that the NES was the only system with some crappy 3rd party games. There were some games on the NES with large sprites, like Astyanax, but they tended to suffer from the screen being cramped, so I think the smaller sprites are actually a good thing, as you get more breathing room.

Not haters, but the NES was just irrelevant in Europe. Also, the NES was just a backward, no quality system when compared to fdd gaming on C64 or Amiga, computer gaming offered more scope, deeper, bigger, BETTER games. So I'll say the USA was the 'backward' country (Even the US gaming magazine CGW at the time stated NES offers inferior gaming'). I guess ol' J-pan was backwards too yess? Really though, the reason the NES did so well and was loved by millions was because they were "deeper, bigger, BETTER games", but also more importantly it was because they were fun. Honestly, I've played some C64 and Amiga games through emulation as of the past few years, and I just don't see it. The ones that I've played (and I have played quite a few) were much simpler than games like Ninja Gaiden, Super Mario Bros. 3 and Kirby's Adventure and the Megaman Games. I'd love to see a C64 try to pull of Ninja Gaiden! It didn't succeed on sheer power, it succeeded because of the titles it was producing. The NES screamed with quality here in the US and over in J-pan. But I have heard that NOE just never tried, so I can't speak for the quality in Europe, which may very well have been sub-par. Key words "in Europe."

Yeah, I think so as well, because on most forums I go to, that tends to be the case. At least for Europe I heard that it was mostly due to NOE just not caring and that they never even really put forth any effort towards marketing. Dunno about Australia. It just seems so awkward to me that in Europe everyone knows about Sonic, but nobody hardly knows about Mario... Even my Dad knows about Mario! But hey, to them Mario being so popular seems the same way I suppose. I also cannot grasp the true nature of the thought process of how the Master System is superior to the NES just because it has less Shovelware... It's like saying "It has less good games, but also less bad games as well" when you don't even need to buy "Sesame Street's Spelling Adventure". There may be more Shovelware, but that doesn't take away the classics however, and the NES definitely delivers on that front, at least in my playbook. The Sega Genesis however was much better, and Sonic 3 and Knuckles is still one of the greatest games of all time. Genesis was leagues ahead of the Master System and I feel it was great competition for Nintendo.

Goodbye! Man, you said it. Hello! Yes is no and no is yes. It makes perfect sense in Moonside! But seriously, whats up with all the NES hate that's been going around recently? Or am I just a n00b lolz and this place has always had some hostility towards the NES? Unfortunately, within the last 6 years NES has become a massive fad; so now people no longer respect gamers of the NES... saying quote "We are just following the crowd" But thats simply not true, I have been playing a NES since I was 5 years old. I didnt simply begin playing it because of the fad, I have practically always played a NES. I agree, heck I've been playing the NES since I was just 3! I no longer have one though I have been using an FC Twin, but I aim to purchase another real one soon. So much nostalgia, and overall good games that just hold up well against the test of time!

I hate those faint lines!!! Why do they exist!?!?!?!!? They're there on the original hardware as well (at least for the NES). You normally can't see them, but on some T.V's they become very apparent, these clones just make them worse for whatever reason (the Retro Duo did it the worst). Are these the same lines that the top loader puts out? Because they are totally not there on the toaster NES... Well, I saw them on my sister's Toaster NES, but that is the only time I've seen them. They must be incredibly faint and almost undetectable, except on some T.Vs like my sister's. Or it's just her T.V screwing with the video signal.

Goodbye! Man, you said it. Hello! Yes is no and no is yes. It makes perfect sense in Moonside! But seriously, whats up with all the NES hate that's been going around recently? Or am I just a n00b lolz and this place has always had some hostility towards the NES?

I hate those faint lines!!! Why do they exist!?!?!?!!? They're there on the original hardware as well (at least for the NES). You normally can't see them, but on some T.V's they become very apparent, these clones just make them worse for whatever reason (the Retro Duo did it the worst).

In Super Street Fighter II Turbo Revival on the Game Boy Advance, it is impossible to face off against Akuma in the U.S release. The game glitches out when you do so and permanently corrupts the game's high scores and various other things. This makes it impossible to complete the game 100% and you must lose a match to finish the game.

So, no notes were missing in games with frequent DPCM channel usage? Such as Super Mario 3 and Castlevania? Speaking of second revisions... Retrobit made this as well didn't they? They made a Retro Duo "v2.0"(the one I had) and it's sound was terrible! Most games sounded like, quite literally, static most of the time! Some games like Bases loaded were so screwed up, that you couldn't hear anything except the bass line! They very well could have made a new revision and screwed up the sound hardware with this system as well.