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As usual, I'll take two of what ever you make.

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Damn, Sloopy, sounds like your getting plenty experience with all this!
I can't wait to check out that VBXE!

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You know how if you remove the RF Out port from an Atari, it pretty much prevents it from working? Well I heard you can remove the one from the 600 without issues, thus making way for the Indivision VGA port. Do you know if there is any truth to this?
No it shouldnt cause a problem. The ATARI 130xe and AMIGA600 have nothing in common, design-wise.. Niether do they even use the same type of native video output.. Idivision ECS plugs into the denise socket. Its taking its output directly from the denise chip.. so obviously, it wouldnt matter in the least..
I will say one thing.. based on what Ive seen you do to simple thru-hole atari boards, if you touch that A600 with a soldering iron, it will probably never work again..
I send happy thoughts your way Metal.
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I was just informed about this board on Amiga.org
http://koti.mbnet.fi/malinto/dualsid/info.shtml
Also I did want to say that Mirage shipped the SID's as promised! Thankx again man!
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Sloopy: You know it is not nice to use one of my all time favorite movies to diss me! That's just messed up man!

Metal: I got the 600 issue covered, though I do have a question for you:
You know how if you remove the RF Out port from an Atari, it pretty much prevents it from working? Well I heard you can remove the one from the 600 without issues, thus making way for the Indivision VGA port. Do you know if there is any truth to this?
FastRobPlus: This just happens to be the first dead Amiga I've ever had to deal with, and I've had a lot of them in my time. I've even done a little solder work on some of them in the past and they still kept on working.
Ironically, the 1200 I have has been to Germany, London, Chile, and now the country previously known as America. On top of that it even survived the big earth quake Chile had a few years back and has had a few hardware modifications to resolve a few bugs that particular model had.
Hows that for endurance?

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Don't worry, no Cheese Sandwiches or Atari's were harmed during this procedure.
And for the note, my Amiga 600 just died, and that tore a hole in my heart, just as it did when I destroyed my 130XE, which btw is the only Atari I have killed thus far. Granted my soldering on the 600 I sent to Sloopy wasn't the best, but it still powers up at least.

Anyhow, my point. I do take Atari and Amiga hardware very seriously, both are a VERY old love of mine. And I respect you for taking your time to bail me out of my last situation, and for giving me tips and advice. I know how it feels to be really good or knowledgeable about something and to see someone come along who has no idea what they are doing. I also know the feeling of seeing rare hardware trashed and lost forever. Hell I work in a nursing home so I know what it is like to make friends time and time again only to have to eventually watch them die and have to later clean up their corpse and ship them out to the funeral home.
So to deal with life and all its irony, I apply humour, for better or worse.

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Heh. Well, the fact that you continue to put more hardware at risk by screwing with it, before you "get there" and then publicly make a big joke out of it is pretty repugnant if you ask me..
I told you the things I told you to try to be nice to you.. You need to take my advice and go practice on some old worthless PCBs and if you can't "get the feel of it" in a day or two, you probably lack the aptitude and/or manual dexterity to ever be good at it.. In which case you should at least do us all the favor of not publicizing your ill advised degredation of perfectly good Atari stuff..
How do you know I've not been in practice before this project? I took to your advice, so hopefully I won't have to rely upon you to save my ass again, but thank you for doing so the last time.
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Metal: Yes yes, I know you shared that bit of information with me already in a private post, but I'm telling you. The Atari is FINE! If I put the original Pokey back on then everything works as it should, but if I replace the original with either of these, then it will not fully boot, so it has got to be a dead Pokey. I can't think of any other explanation.
Anyhow, as you said,"practice makes perfect". Eventually I'll get there, and considering that the beast ain't dead yet, I'm still good on this one.
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What the heck is a turphid capacitor anyhow?!

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duuuude... i only do mozzarella cheese... in general i dont like cheese... as a friend of mine once said, the whole reason i can eat mozzarella but no other is, it would be a sacrilege for a hacker to not eat a 'rotary debugger'...
so the problem isnt the gauge of cheese, its the type of cheese... when you use the wrong type it doesnt matter what gauge it is...
so you have completely screwed your turphid capacitor...
sloopy.
OH no! I hope I didn't fry my Flux Capacitor and Shield Generator as well. Do you think they'll be O.K.?
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24 should be good. Real thin Cheese strands. Though Metal or Sloopy may advice something else, they are better at this Cheese business than I.
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FastRobPlus:
Simple. A4 connects to pin 13 of your CPU. Then you have your ground and left and right audio connectors right below the A4. Run them to our RCA or Guitar Jack female and that should be that. At least the last time I did it that's all it took. This time, it appears that I have problematic Pokey chips.
Sloopy: The Ham Sandwich did have a thin slice of Colby Cheese on it, though I've heard that Atari's are pretty resistant to Colby as opposed to other cheeses such as Limburger cheese.
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Because I used a Ham Sandwich.
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Again, the Atari ain't dead...
yet.

It still works with the original Pokey.
Seriously though, do you think the other two Pokey's are dead?
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Ohh, do you think my bad spelling might have some relation to my pokey problems?

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AFAIK there's no difference in Pokey "revisions".
The only difference you should be aware and careful of between those 2 chips is the location of the notch on the end - always remember, ignore the orientation of the printing, just make sure the notch at the end of the IC is pointed the right way when mounting it.
I noticed that the lettering on the one I received from Lotharka was inverted, but I didn't flip it as I figured that would be a bad move.
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He he he. The Atari ain't dead yet. It's those damn chips!

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So I ordered another Simple Stereo Upgrade off of Lotharka along with an extra Pokey. Ironically, he had already put the Pokey on the board, and failed to get all the legs in the holes, thus one of them was bent. Needless to say I removed it and corrected it.
Anyhow. I installed the board (yes I've done one of these before and didn't fry my mobo this time), but when I turned on the system, the Power led faded in and out, and the system booted, but with no sound.
My first thought was that I screwed up, but to make sure I removed the board and replaced it with my old Pokey.
Everything booted up fine.
I then removed my Pokey and replaced it with a Ham Sandwich. As expected, no results.
After this I tried Lotharka's Pokey, and the Power Led again Flashed, and the system locked. It would no longer boot to the cursor.
I have a dead 600XL I picked up for $9.00 a while back, so I removed the Pokey fro it and put it into my 800XL, but it did the same thing as Lotharka's Pokey.
So what I am wondering is if the Pokey and or Ham Sandwich needs to be the same exact revision number as the Pokey that originally came with my 600XL, or if they are probably just dead?
Pokey's in the pic are the one's my 800XL does not like.
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Candle: Can you post any recent images? I know I"m going to want a couple, but I'd love to get a glimpse of your work in progress.

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...to get back on topic: I see that at this moment the source files I posted in the 1st post are already downloaded 63 times.
That means we should expect many others trying to take over my first step

At least 1 of the 63 persons should be someone who could do it?

Lets keep our fingers crossed!
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BTW, Super Mario has been ported to the Sega Genesis. Just google it, you'll find plenty of videos and the rom.
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Alright, thankx all!
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Spectipede - the lores (normal) Atari version is on the NYE 2011 compilation.
The hires + VBXE version is in here http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/174951-spectipide-hires-version/page__p__2176076#entry2176076
Quadrillion - it's bundled in the 1.24 Release of the VBXE Firmware pack.
Also the latest version here http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/172669-new-game-release-quadrillion/page__view__findpost__p__2157627
Moon Shuttle - VBXE enhanced version of old Basic+Asm game of mine here http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/154854-new-game-revamprelease-moon-shuttle-vbxe-edition/page__view__findpost__p__1901509
Robbo - VBXE version by candle can also be found in the 1.24 Release package.
NYE 2011 compilation?
And thankx! More goods for when my hardware comes back!

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No.
I've converted 2 games specifically for VBXE from Plus/4 games, and did a VBXE enhancement on one of my old Basic+Asm games.
Candle has a VBXE version of Robbo (still WIP AFAIK).
Where?! I want!!!


PAL Antic in NTSC 800xl = black amd white picture
in Atari 8-Bit Computers
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What I don't understand is the fact that he is using a Commodore 1701 monitor, where as I'm using a Commodore 1084s, which displays in color just fine.
Though I did have a thought. On the 1084s there is a button in the back that enables and disables color. Perhaps your monitor has the same button? If so, trying playing with that as well.