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Everything posted by Cyprian
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nice setup
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It look like they haven't customized the icons and fonts yet (window's closer is also the same as on the PC-GEM). PC-GEM has two icons sets: DESKHI.IMG and DESKLO.IMG. Atari decided to use only one icon set, my guess is that due to ROM size limitations: 192kB. I read somewhere that initially the plan was to use smaller ROM in the ST: 128KB. Regarding CP/M and GEMDOS, below is a screenshot from Atari Corp. book before GEMDOS was born: I heard that GEMDOS was initially a private project one of the DRI employee - Jason Loveman and was called "Jason DOS" / "Project Jason" and it was DOS 2.x based. Therefore history has come full circle: DRI CP/M --> SCP 86-DOS/QDOS --> MS DOS 1.x --> MS DOS 2.x --> DRI GEMDOS Ok I've found that article: http://cd.textfiles.com/crawlycrypt1/program/books/progem/gemdos.15 There you can find GEMDOS vs DOS vs CP/M comparison: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12XHJ6YHRDfvNhtnlzEINBjRRXZPKvDQgI7AI424oTws/edit?usp=sharing
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why mono-spaced spacing fonts? because it's faster - each letter (8x8 or 8x16) fits in its own byte in memory, so you just need to copy the font data from the source to the destination. Whereas with a proportional font, each letter must be also ORed and shifted in the destination memory. Btw. GEM supports proportional from the beginning (this is GDOS in Atari world)
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GEM (on both platforms -PC and Atari) and Amiga OS used mono-spaced fonts due to performance issue.
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These fonts look cool, what's their name (menu, icon, file list)?
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Sony mentioned Atari Falcon 040 and Atari Falcon Microbox 030 in its design patent: https://www.feedme.design/was-the-playstation-2-design-really-based-on-an-old-atari/
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"Is this a good system?" Yes, it is.
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I've heard about hair dryer and screen heating
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nice one, is there a schematic of the right board available somewhere?
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Would you be excited for an Atari ST mini ?
Cyprian replied to JPF997's topic in Atari ST/TT/Falcon Computers
for me Atari ST mini sounds interesting. -
TOS on the cartridge - sounds interesting, would be cool to find it. It seems it is a bit different than the final one - I see PC GEM icons, and the Desktop is surrounded by the black border Where did you find it?
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both files contains Icons: e.g. PC GEM 1.1 in 640x200 mode (picture below) uses icons from "DESKLO" file:
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I see that some .ASM functions are called from IBM.C
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unfortunately 192 / 384px per line is just Atari's b/s marketing. The real result is 352px (or 356px thanks to Mono) in Hires per line and half of that in 4 color modes.
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Question on the colors of the ST Desktop
Cyprian replied to thedocbwarren's topic in Atari ST/TT/Falcon Computers
"GEM Desktop 1.1 was released on 10 April 1985" -
Question on the colors of the ST Desktop
Cyprian replied to thedocbwarren's topic in Atari ST/TT/Falcon Computers
GEM screen resolution depends on the capabilities of the graphics card, at that time (1985) 640x200 was quite popular. I see there https://www.seasip.info/Gem/Drivers/video.html drivers for GEM 1.x for e.g. Hercules 720x348 Actually PC GEM 1.1 in 640x200 wasn't so bad: Digital Research Inc designed GEM in that way that, based on XEROX experiences. Regarding green desktop, if I remember correctly the first 16 colors in GEM were standardized by Digital Research. Blue was reserved for PC GEM, therefore Atari didn't have much choice: PC GEM: ST GEM: -
It is not mine, I tole this link from BigPemu discord
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Checkered Flag on the latest BigPemu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikbna9kIKx4
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some useful links: Hardware: https://www.temlib.org/AtariForumWiki/index.php/Atari_ST/STe/MSTe/TT/F030_Hardware_Register_Listing OS: https://freemint.github.io/tos.hyp/en/index.html Nice FAQ about STE Hardware specific registers https://github.com/Number0000009/atari-wiki/blob/master/Atari STE FAQ compiled by The Paranoid Paradox.txt ST Synclock demosystem v1.0: https://dhs.nu/files.php?t=democreation Coding forum (more active than here on AA): https://atari-forum.com/viewforum.php?f=16
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obviously 120fps is better than 60 but in retro computer world we have used to live with 25 and less fps.