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TommyGun retro development toolkit
TommyGun replied to retroclouds's topic in ColecoVision Programming
You should actually try the software before commenting on it. It supports any compiler and/or assembler. Writing an IDE for a single platform is too easy, and writing one off tools is kiddies work. Writing an IDE for multiple platforms using plugins is a little bit more work than writing a java tool to edit 1 character at time. You need to take all platforms into consideration and design accordingly. You should try writing one - I would be very interested in your results. But I'm guessing from your other responses on this forum you do more complaining than writing software for others. If your comparing TommyGun to ICVGM and/or CV Paint then I can see what kind of interface you are use to. TommyGun is modelled on editing full size images of any size using standard paint program mechanics for multiple machine palette spaces. ICVM is modelled on edit a single character - wow truly exceptional stuff! Its a bit like asking Leonardo Divinci to paint the Mona Lisa through a key hole. Pixelboy I would be very happy if you never use TommyGun at all in the future. I doubt your programming ability anyway so it wouldn't be of much use to you. Other AtariAge forum people, at the moment getting colecovision support from TommyGun has taken a big step back and you can all thank Pixeltoy for his comments. Thank you for your comments. Now if you don't mind, I'd like to voice my own opinion of you. Yes, I didn't test your software thoroughly today, mostly because I had other things to do, like going to the gym, trimming trees in the backyard, and I'm currently ironing some shirts while watching TV (I'm taking a break right now from that to reply to you). I'm quite a busy guy so please forgive me if I don't put everything aside and spend several hours devouring your piece of software and its accompanying documentation. So if I understand correctly, you're pissed because I passed judgement on your software based on a single of its components? Sorry my friend, but that's life. I was quite willing to study TommyGun further, since I plan to create more ColecoVision software within the next few years, and it would be nice to have an IDE to make the work easier and more fun. But I had to start somewhere, and I started with the graphic tools, which I honestly found confusing and definately didn't like. Now if I dislike one component which I find rather important, why should I pursue studying the rest of the software, especially given my busy schedule? I'm certainly not going to use software I don't like (unless I'm paid to do it, which is an entirely different matter, of course). You came here to defend your software? Fine. If personal attacks are your only "defense", then you'll get no sympathy from me, my friend. You could have simply asked me why I didn't like it, and perhaps I could have offered you a detailed explaination, which you could have received as constructive criticism (or simply ignored), but I see that you are an emotional fellow (I understand that, because I can be emotional too, sometimes) who firmly believes that his software should only be criticized by people he approves of. Yes, I prefer ICVGM a whole lot more than your graphic tools, because it's far more "in tune" with how I conceptualize and define graphics on the ColecoVision. If you don't understand that simple point, then you and I have nothing more to discuss. Whether you add ColecoVision support to TommyGun or not is irrelevant to me, because I won't be using it anyway. I have no problem with anyone else who may want to use your software, although I have to say I'd be curious to see if those people find your graphics tools as confusing as I do. Oh, by the way, welcome to the AtariAge boards. P.S.: Some others here may agree with TommyGun, that I should have explored his software further before passing judgement, and I recognize that this may have indeed been the correct course of action to take, but on the other hand, I invite anyone here to download and install TommyGun, and try the sprite tools. Play around with it a bit, changing values in the textboxes and such, and tell me if the software reacts like you expect it to. Perhaps you will find that my initial comment was justified... Hey busy guy, The whole point about letting people such as yourself know about a tool such as TommyGun was to add support for the colecovision's way of dealing with graphics. Which is particularly different to most 8 bit architectures, efficient in some ways but different never the less. ICVGM is tailored to the CV so go figure its in 'tune' with the way you do things on that machine. - duh! Dude if you want tools that can't draw a line, do flood fills, copy/pasting bitmaps, shapes or anything like that then stick to the caveman tools you obviously use at the moment. The main goal for TommyGun's TI99/MSX/CV additions are to manage the pattern, color, sprite and name tables for the developer simplifying the task for you. If you can't see that then its your own short sightedness not to fully explore what is new to you. A bit stupid to hop on a forum and bag software you never intended to give the light of day. But yeah if you are going to complain about software that people have made for free, then back it up with a reason. Not "i dont like it cos i do things differently". I shouldn't have to ask you why you didn't like it - its your responsibility to state your reasons not mine. Don't get me wrong criticism is always accepted, but straight out ignorance isn't - you need to learn the difference. If any other colecovison users have anything positive to say about getting more software support for their machine then please say so. Hopefully pixelboy is not the standard demographic of colecovision developers surely. -
TommyGun retro development toolkit
TommyGun replied to retroclouds's topic in ColecoVision Programming
First off, my apologies to all other AtariAge forum users for my response here. This is not an appropriate 1st post and I'm ok if I get banned for it. But I feel I need to defend my application against such a negative response from someone who clearly didn't even take the time to use the application and posted a comment for his other vanity. You should actually try the software before commenting on it. It supports any compiler and/or assembler. Writing an IDE for a single platform is too easy, and writing one off tools is kiddies work. Writing an IDE for multiple platforms using plugins is a little bit more work than writing a java tool to edit 1 character at time. You need to take all platforms into consideration and design accordingly. You should try writing one - I would be very interested in your results. But I'm guessing from your other responses on this forum you do more complaining than writing software for others. If your comparing TommyGun to ICVGM and/or CV Paint then I can see what kind of interface you are use to. TommyGun is modelled on editing full size images of any size using standard paint program mechanics for multiple machine palette spaces. ICVM is modelled on edit a single character - wow truly exceptional stuff! Its a bit like asking Leonardo Divinci to paint the Mona Lisa through a key hole. Pixelboy I would be very happy if you never use TommyGun at all in the future. I doubt your programming ability anyway so it wouldn't be of much use to you. Other AtariAge forum people, at the moment getting colecovision support from TommyGun has taken a big step back and you can all thank Pixeltoy for his comments.
