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  1. I'm going to buy this game tomorrow and spend time with it this weekend.  This game is shining example of the type of retro content that will be the bread & butter for a console like the Atari VCS (and yes it is a console and not a mini PC as Michael Artz wants to tout it). Game like this are exactly what we need in the Atari VCS store to keep gamers interested in what the Atari VCS has to offer and spend time in the Atari VCS OS mode opposed to booting into PC mode. Good work Atari getting this game out just in time for lead up to the Christmas Holiday season. I am Looking forward to seeing what other gifts Atari has in store for us for the Atari VCS's first Christmas retail season.

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  2. 1 hour ago, mario64 said:

    Hello all. Just got my VCS setup tonight and have a couple of questions. 
     

    1) Is there any way around having to enter PIN every time you boot & login to the system? 
     

    2) Is there any way around the 32 character limit on the WiFi password? That limit is out of spec and there’s no way I’m gonna change my 50 other WiFi devices to accommodate it. 
     

    Thanks for any assistance. 

    Yes, under the System menu go to > Account > Edit Account and turn off Require PIN at sign in,

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  3. On 10/28/2021 at 4:36 PM, justclaws said:

    It seems this may have been a bit premature, as a tweet by Atari's team.
    Maybe a social-media mistake.
    However, the game is coming to the VCS. Maybe just not today, after all.

    I hope that that it is still coming to the Atari VCS, but after 2 weeks of silence since the misstated "available now" status for the game I wonder if somehow the deal didn't fall through.  Also, I asked on the CollectorVision Facebook page in a very respectful manner and the post wasn't up long before it was deleted without any response at all. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but this doesn't exactly instill a lot of confidence that Sydney Hunter is still on it way to the Atari VCS.  Maybe an exact date cannot be given, but a statement form Atari or CollectorVision saying that they game is still coming to the Atari VCS would go a long way towards making a lot of eager Atari VCS owners happy.


  4. On 10/23/2021 at 4:18 AM, justclaws said:

    I've never heard of this game, but I wasn't into PC gaming in 2014.
    As a Windows game, I think it could not be carried forward easily to the VCS.
    However, as a concept, it looks interesting, and better than "Alone In The Dark"!

    Teaser Trailer

     

     

    What a concept like this to build on Atari certainly doesn't need Alone in the Dark

     

    17 hours ago, leech said:

    I don't see why not.  Usually the main hurdle to porting a game to Linux from Windows is mostly about what third party software they used.  Like some video codecs and such don't have a Linux equivalent (that's supposedly the only reason Unreal Tournament III was never released).  So depending on if they still had the source code, and weren't using some closed source middleware software, they could quite easily port it and then enhance it for the VCS.  Or... you know do what they're doing with DOSBox and 7800 Emulator and just include Proton as a Windows wrapper.

    It would be best to do this

    as a remake. The game needs some polish but as a concept of what a modernized version of Haunted House could be I think that this could be made into a successful franchise if done right.

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  5. On 10/20/2021 at 4:47 PM, bugcatcher88 said:

    I have Haunted House: Cryptic Graves, though I barely played it because my PC at the time wasn't very good for gaming. The game released in November 2014 and was pulled March 2015, so it was sold for only a few months. I wonder what happened behind the scenes that caused the game to be discontinued to soon. 

     

    While I didn't care for the cartoony visuals of the 2010 game, I did like how it served as a sequel to the 2600 original and I really appreciated how they expanded on the lore. 

     

    Haunted House: Cryptic Graves has the potential to be reworked into a new game.  I definitely feel that Atari was moving in the right direction visually with the dark atmospheric environment and foreboding tone of the game.  I like the there is a bit of quest in the game to hold me interest and make me think about how to progress through the puzzles,  Maybe turn into a bit more of survival horror game.  There is a lot to work with for title such as Haunted House.


  6. 2 minutes ago, leech said:

    I mean... it's already open source.. But I get what you mean, like being able to just slap software into a virtual C:\ and having at it?

     

    Ha, you could even run GEM under DOS...

    Yes, I want to be able to run anything we want in this virtual DOS environment is what I want.  I have tons of old DOS games that I would like to be able to play in it on my TV.  I suspect that is probably going to be locked down so that it only runs content that is purchased from the Atari VCS store.


  7. 20 minutes ago, Mockduck said:

    I suspect the answer is no; this is a back end addition to the OS to run future VCS Store releases like the 7800 emulator is for the new Flashback Fridays releases. I'd love it, though! 

    Honestly, I am more interested in DOSBox being opened up than the Atari 7800 emulator.

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  8. I want to know if DOSBox is going to be open to allow us to run whatever we want in it.  I would like to see Atari open up DOSBox and the 7800 emulator in the Atari OS to allow us to run our own and DOS games and ROM's that we own already. I have ton of old DOS games and it would be really awesome to be able to use the Atari VCS to play them on my TV.  Hopefully these are not just closed emulators that only runs the content that you purchase to add to it.


  9. 48 minutes ago, Mockduck said:

    It would make sense for Atari to go the modern first person survival horror route with Haunted House, but to me the original game felt more like a puzzle adventure game more similar to Adventure. So, to my mind, a third-person view along the lines of Diablo III or Minecraft Dungeons where people work together to escape the Haunted House with more of a modern "Escape Room" style of gameplay would feel closer to the original. Just my opinion/ 

    Agreed, the games needs to go the survival horror route and this game have the basic elements of that already.  Plenty to build on here and I do like what I saw they did so far with the game.

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  10. Atari sold off Alone in the Dark, but in my opinion they don't really needed it.  Atari still owns the rights to Haunted House and it is the sort of title that they could expand upon and make into a real franchise of its own.  Atari was on the right track with this game when they made Haunted House: Cryptic Graves in 2014.  I know that the game has technical issues and wasn't well received, but there was a lot of potential there with the that version of the game and was much better than the very cartoony version that they released in 2010. I like the overall look of the graphics and ht dark foreboding tone of the game.  Atari should work on a sequel or remake that resolves the issues with the game had as it is a waste of what was potentially a great game and in my opinion is salvageable and would be well received on the Atari VCS.

     

     

     

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  11. 10 hours ago, ConstititutionalCommando said:

    I just ordered the $299 Onyx version of the console to strictly boot into Windows as a dedicated Hyperspin/Launchbox emulation gaming machine .  I've been looking to build a mini small form factor pc or purchase a prebuild and I stumbled across this Atari VCS.  I like the look and design of the system and the fact that it's a mini pc.  I could care less about the Atari OS.  My goal with this machine is to boot into Hyperspin for retro console and arcade Mame gaming.  

     

    I've researched the internal M.2 SSD, memory upgrades, BIOS password issues, OS booting issues etc., and have a few questions.

     

    1.  Memory upgrades - I'm confused about which memory upgrade to pull the trigger on.  I've read that the 32GB memory can't run at 3200MHz, so what 32GB memory is the best upgrade for this system?  Should I simply settle for 16GB 3200MHz memory?  If I choose the 32GB option, how many GB should be dedicated for the graphics?  I read somewhere that 12GB was optimal?

     

    2.  BIOS - Most of the information regarding this system is 6 - 8 months old, so what's the latest status on the BIOS lockdown?  

     

    3.  Windows - What are the current issues with installing Windows 10 to an internal M.2 SSD and have the system boot into windows on startup?

     

    My goal is to complete max out the performance on this system, so your knowledge and input will be greatly appreciated!

     

    P.S. I'll be running this 2TB Hyperspin arcade drive listed below and plan to copy the contents of the drive onto the internal M.2 SSD:

     

    https://www.romcollector.com/hyperspin-arcade-drive-p-155.html

    Yes, the memory can run at 3200 MHz if you access the BIOS and change the DRAM timing.  I have done it on my Atari VCS.

     

    A few safe & useful things I did following the steps in this video I have linked on this reply is as follows (the default setting in the BIOS are based on the stock 8 GB of DD4 2666 MHz memory so these should be adjusted to reflect the specs of the upgraded memory and allocate the additional memory to the GPU to optimize performance).

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    • Set the memory speed in the BIOS to ensure that clock on that is matches the rated speed for the memory (when I upgraded the memory in my Atari VCS I put in 3200 MHz memory to replace the 2666 MHz stock RAM)
    • Allocated more system RAM as video memory (I increased the allocation to 4 GB since I have 32 GB installed in my Atari VCS and that will be a nice boost in games that use a lot of video memory and this is double the default 2 GB that was based on an Atari VCS with the stock 8 GB of memory).

     

    *One other thing shown in the video was how to change the TDP from 35W to 54W but I did not set this on my Atari VCS since put any undue stress on the system and risk damaging or overheating it (for those who want to do this it is advised to replace the stock thermal pad with Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste to enhance the cooling as this has been show to reduce temperatures on Atari VCS consoles when the owner did just that).

     

     

    PC Mode (I advise using this method as opposed to the WInToUSB method that Atari instructs as you will not get a Windows 10 license and the max partition size is only have a 127 GB partition.)

     

    The best method is as follows:
    1) Connect a SATA III drive a PC internally (I recommend unplugging and other driver so that the boot loader doesn't get altered)
    2) Boot the Windows 10 installation Media that setup on USB memory stick
    3) Let the pre-install setup process copy files to the drive. As soon as the install restarts the PC turn it off before Windows 10 starts to boot
    4) Disconnect the SATA III SSD from the PC and put it in the USB enclosure
    5) Connect the USB enclose to the Atari VCS and power the Atari VCS on. This will boot from the USB drive and complete the setup process.
     
     
    As for PC mode issues I high advise that you check out my 2 very detailed topics
     

  12. On 9/23/2021 at 12:02 PM, haightc said:

    I add in regard to usb enclosure make sure you drive uses 1A or less or is powerd.     NVME m.2 for me got slower speed and laptop 2.5" disc...   the lowest powered sata 2.5" got me close to the max USB 3.1 speed with is still slower than sata but fast enough for this little PC

    Mine is a powered USB 3.1 enclosure and even my USB 3.0 non power enclosure was getting better speeds until I changed to a high grade USB cable on the powered USB 3.1 enclosure.  This was the best rated enclosure on Newegg with a 5 star rating so it was a bit shocking to find out it was performing so badly and really annoying that I found the manufacture is using shoddy cables that robs the performance.  I built another Atari VCS for my sister with the same model powered USB 3.1 enclosure and had the same issue before swapping the USB cable for a high grade on the same as what I changed to on mine.


  13. I would love to see a Star Raiders game.  It is Atari's biggest classic title that they still own the rights to and they are sitting it and doing nothing with it.  That as an exclusive could be the killer app for the Atari VCS.

     

    Make me a nice modern Star Raiders game that doesn't suck and I will not be able to put down the controller nor want to turn off my Atari VCS.  They should also have a mode where you can play as the Krylons for the campaign.  Also a nice multi play death match match mode would be really cool.

     

    Hell, if I was Atari, I would pay Doug Neubauer a very handsome price to be involved in such a project.  Not sure if he codes modern games, but attaching him to it as a creative consultant alone would be a huge PR win for Atari and great as promotion for the Atari VCS.

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  14. On 9/8/2021 at 10:30 PM, stirrell said:

    My Atari VCS from Best Buy arrived today. I’ve installed Windows, got the VCS Companion app working and played some Vault games. So far I am enjoying it. I really like the controllers. The only complaint I have so far is the fan noise and some of the interface being a little less than intuitive.

     

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    I know that the constant fan throttling on the Atari VCS has been a big complaint for many. According to this person "Core Performance Boost" setting seems be be affecting the fan by causing jumps to greater than >80°C and advised "turning it down" (not sure if means turn if off since I have poked around int the BIOS at this time for the setting). Not sure I would want to disable it, but just thought I would shire. Here is an article I found that does some benchmarking on a PC with "Precision Boost" on vs off. Is Precision Boost the same as "Core Performance Boost"?

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    https://www.digitalcitizen.life/performance-impact-precision-boost-amd-ryzen/


  15. Has no one else seen this issue, or taken time to look if they have adjusted their BIOS setting prior to the 08/30 BIOS update?  It isn't something you would like notice unless you was told to look for it (same with me I wouldn't have looked for it if wasn't for the person on Facebook how noticed this first) since the BIOS on any PC is where Windows pickup up the hardware detail.  Being that he was seen on both Atari VCS consoles this would seem to indicate we have bug on hand.  We need to Atari to look at this if there is an issue, so anyone else who had changed BIOS settings and noticed this please reply on this topic.

     

    The memory settings that I adjust is as show in this video at the 08:09 - 09:32 mark.  After the BIOS update on 08/30 the BIOS setting showed they had retained the change values, but when viewed in Windows 10 I found the same issue as reported by the find of this issue who posted about it on Facebook.

     

     

    Findings on my console:

    • Memory was only reading as 1333 MHz in Windows (1333 x 2 is what 2666 MHz dual RAM speed would show)  as reported by CPU-Z.  DRAM was still set at 1600 MHz so this should have been reading 1600 MHz as was set in the BIOS.
    • Windows reported only 2 GB (Task Manager > Performance tab > GPU details).  This should be 4 GB as was set and being displayed in the BIOS

     

    Resolution:

    Loading the BIOS defaults, than saving & exiting the BIOS and setting & saving the new values again corrected the DRAM timing and the amount of shared memory that Windows was reporting (this also resolved the issue for the person on Facebook who first found the issue on his Atari VCS)

     

    A few safe & useful things I did following the steps in this video I have linked on this reply is as follows (the default setting in the BIOS are based on the stock 8 GB of DD4 2666 MHz memory so these should be adjusted to reflect the specs of the upgraded memory and allocate the additional memory to the GPU to optimize performance).

    -------------------------------------------------

    • Set the memory speed in the BIOS to ensure that clock on that is matches the rated speed for the memory (when I upgraded the memory in my Atari VCS put in 3200 MHz memory to replace the 2666 MHz stock RAM)
    • Allocate more system RAM as video memory (I increased the allocation to 4 GB since I have 32 GB installed in my Atari VCS and that will be a nice boost in games that use a lot of video memory and this is double the default 2 GB that was based on an Atari VCS with the stock 8 GB of memory).

     

    *One other thing shown in the video was how to change the TDP from 35W to 54W but I did not set this on my Atari VCS since put any undue stress on the system and risk damaging or overheating it (for those who want to do this it is advised to replace the stock thermal pad with Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste to enhance the cooling as this has been show to reduce temperatures on Atari VCS consoles when the owner did just that).
     


  16. 1 minute ago, SubElement said:

    As per title, is there any way to update the Atari VCS Joystick firmware without a Console?

     

    Thanks! :)

    Good question, and I would say the answer to that is no.  The joystick was only ever intended for use with the Atari VCS as accessory for it.  That being said Atari does sell the controller separately so they should really come up with a ways for those who don't own and Atari VCS to update the controllers.  I would recommend contacting Atari Support, but don't expect a solution will be forthcoming at this time, but if if put a in a request they can look into how in future to provide this service to those like you who have an Atari Classic Joystick or Modern controller but cannot update the firmware on them because you don't own an Atari VCS console.


  17. Not likely Atari wasn't being managed as a business.  It grew fast because it was free or restrictions and rule and no one else had pioneered bushiness before Nolan Bushnell so they were able to grow fast and with little competition.  Growing fast and making a ton on money in the process doesn't mean you are not going to have mega debt so it would have eventually caught up with them.  Now in terms on innovations and staying relevant they would probably have fared better with Nolan Bushnell still at the helm as Time Warner and Jack Tramiel shut those divisions down and that was the end of the era of Atari innovation.


  18. I have been meaning to post this about some oddities with the last BIOS update and what is being reported to Windows about settings in the BIOS related to DRAM timing speed and allocation of memory to the GPU. This was first reported by user on Facebook and it sounded crazy at the time but I can in fact verify what he said is true after having checked my console and finding the exact issue to be present on mine that he reported seeing on his console. Finding on my console: - DRAM was still set at 1600 MHz (I have 2 sticks of 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM for a total of 32 GB) in the BIOS but was only reading as 1200 MHz in Windows (as reported by CPU-Z) - GPU was set to 4 GB of memory in the BIOS but Windows reported only 2 GB (Task Manager > Performance tab > GPU details) Resolution: I found that resetting the BIOS to defaults, than saving & exiting the BIOS and setting the new values corrected the DRAM timing and the amount of shared memory that Windows was reporting. I really not sure what to make of this as all the setting the BIOS after update on 08/30 looked to be unchanged but what Windows was picking up didn't match them In all the years I have been building systems and doing support I have never seen such a thing happen before, but yet another person and I have both see this on our consoles. I am sure others must have this issue as well, but like me wouldn't have thought to look for such a thing unless someone else pointed it out first.

     

    Just trying proactive and get Atari's eyes on this issue if it does seem to be consistently encounters by those to changed the BIOS default or memory related setting. Having issue like this will negative affect performance for those how upgraded their memory and want to use their Atari VCS for gaming in PC mode. It isn't clear if Windows was just in error on what it was reading (which I don't' see how it would be possible since they are read directly form the BIOS) or if the or if the setting in the BIOS was displaying incorrect values until after loading the defaults and then changing the values again to desired ones, but I am going to bet the BIOS was a some strange state of not using user defined value and got set to default values but didn't reflect them. Also note that I did not change my BIOS password so this isn't a case of the BIOS update not being able to make changes because it wasn't able to get Admin permissions during the update due to a changed password on my part.


  19. I was mistaken about what I said about the RAPID mode setting for my Samsung SSD that is connected vi USB.  I didn't enable RAPID more on the SATA III as it does support it via USB.  I had accidentally enabled it on the internal Samsung m2 NMVe drive and this would have not bearing on the score. I found when running the bench mark again I was getting about 19-20 FPS on average.

     

    I decided to test with another enclosure that was only USB 3.0 (I noted that the author of the video told me the he had used a USB 3.0 enclosure for the benchmark when running PC mode from USB).  When I did that found my speed to be 31 FPS.  Now this was frustrating since my other enclosure is a USB 3.1 Gen 2.

     

    This all being said I finally figured out what the issue was.  I was considering replacing my USB 3.1 Gen 2, but then suddenly I realized it was likely the cable,  I thought of this because I had a issue with Android auto where the cable that came with the phone was coking on the data being pushed through it, so I bought high quality USB cable to replace it and that solved the issue with the phone (many people online reported the same thing).  So, I grabbed the cable I bought for the phone and connected my USB 3.1 Gen 2 via it my Atari VCS and ran the test again. Now I am averaging 31.9 with score of 793 (ran it a few times and all is holding steady level of FPS).  All of this because manufacturers sometime use shitty quality USB cables.

     

    Just wanted to share all of this with everyone in case anyone else has a similar FPS issue on their Atari VCS.

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