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Here is how I feel about it. The only compatibility that should be considered is just plain old vanilla Atari 7800 ProSystem specs, period. Trying to account for every possible configuration and mod is a losing battle where you are going to constantly to run into logistical issues trying to get all of the non standard components to play well together. Most people will only have a stock Atari 7800 in the first place. Any smart developer will try to reach the largest base of users (that in this case is this using an stock Atari 7800 Pro System), and not worry about trying satisfy every unique twist that be can thrown into the equation.

Zonie, either you missed my reply from several weeks ago, or you didn't get the humor in my reply. See above reply from myself that I have quoted replying to your questions about what an Atari 7900 is. Maybe I just coined the new nickname for the 7800 + XM module combo (would be sort of cool if that become the case, lol ) .

Do you plan to release the game on a Lynx card and sell it once it is done?

I like that this controller is paying homage to the old 2600 controller but honestly I hope there will be modern controllers as with more button and an ergonomic layout similar to that of the XBOX 360 wireless controller as that will be necessary for modern titles. This controller will definitely be impractical for general overall best use.

Look great. I love text adventure games. Are you taking pre-orders or is the going to be in the Atariage store upon release?

Is there anyone on here who is selling their pre-order?

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Jinks thanks for the reply. I just wanted to find our for sure as my understanding is that there was at one point a proper order system of placing an order and sending money to guarantee to get one upon it eventual release whenever that may be. There have been so many threads & posts about it and so much it outdated info trying to get the answer is like trying find a needle in a haystack. I know that there have been those who have complained about how long it has been in development but for something that ambitious & complex it is understandable that there will be delays and setback along the way. As they say the best things come to those who wait. I would just hate to miss out of getting one as I know how crazy impossible it is to get things like certain homebrews or other rare items once the opportunity is missed and then usually you can only get find one on eBay for insane amount of money even assuming there is one on there as all.

https://blogs.microsoft.com/ai/2017/06/14/divide-conquer-microsoft-researchers-used-ai-master-ms-pac-man/ I am sure that many of us here already have seen this article just as did I back in June 2017. It took over 150 Microsoft AI agents working in parallel to accomplish getting the maximum score of 999,990 points before rolling the score over to 0 on Ms. Pac-Man for the Atari 2600. Just seems very impressive that one 2600 with its meager processing power was able to challenge AI's to the point where they needed to have that many resources devoted to thwarting the algorithms that the 2600 was throwing at them . According this article humans have only come as close as 266,330 points on the Atari 2600 version on Ms. Pac-Man. https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/14/15801700/microsoft-ai-perfect-ms-pac-man-score Now I would like to see them do that with Jr. Pac-Man on the Atari 2600 as that is one crazy hard game where even getting through a few levels can be nearly impossible. Maybe with 500 to 1000 AI agents they might conquer that challenge .

Atari 7800 + XM module = Atari 7900. Do the math In all seriousness it was just a typo. However can someone tell me if it is still possible to place a pre-order for a 7800 XM module and if so how do I go about doing that?

No hate towards Nintendo. I just didn't like the monopolistic tactics they engaged in. I did buy a Nintendo 64 and Gamecube while they were still on the market and so no I have hate of Nintendo. I also now own the NES, SNES and Wii as well and have games in my library for each of those systems. Personally I like the Genesis library better but that is a matter of preference and both the Genesis and SNES had an amazing library of games to chose from and choosing one over the other mean you are missing out on some great games. The Super Nintendo was more advanced then the Genesis as the Geneis was on the market for 2 year before the Super Nintendo was released and there is no doubt that the the Super Nintendo with it custom chips for Mode 7 capabilities were more advanced than the hardware in the Genesis, but in spite this of the Genesis competed well with the SNES and gave it a run for its money. Nintendo has never been my first choice for consoles and neither is Sony. Personally I find Sega and Microsoft to have had great titles that appealed to me more than did Nintendo.

Hmmmm, this supports what I said earlier about the numbers about global overall numbers for the NES. I personally am happy that in regions outside the US and Japan that Nintendo had a more difficult time as I was never a fan of how Nintendo did business in an underhanded monopolistic way in order to try to choke out all competition in a bid to control the video game market. The original Nintendo was never the best console and seeing how they managed to control the market by choking Atari and Sega out of third party support during the 8-bit era was extremely infuriating to me while better consoles such and Sega Master System, Atari 7800 and Lynx were starved of the key titles that Nintendo had locked up with their non competition agreements that they forced third parties to agree to in order to publish their games on the NES. Atari in those years definitely found more success abroad in the European markets than they did at home and this is something that I was very happy for as I wanted Atari to succeed and hoped that they could make a proper comeback and regain their leadership in the video game market. Unfortunately for Atari they never did get the comeback and become market leader again, but this did buy them enough time and resources to launch the Lynx and Jaguar consoles which were both light years ahead of anything else on the market at the time they launched and there were some great games to be had on those consoles even during those years for Atari. I myself never purchased a NES console by choice during those years and proudly owned the 7800 and Lynx. When Sega released the Genesis I bought it and feel that they had the best library during the 16-bit wars. Nintendo's arrogance by initially dismissing the the Genesis as competition and ignoring the growing threat Sega posed to their dominance lead Nintendo to losing their stranglehold on market for third party developers/publishers and this was quite satisfying to me to see their fall from market domination. Fortunately Nintendo never fully recovered and still to this day still is now only a shadow of it's former self due in large part to shooting themselves in the foot by setting Sony up to develop what would eventually lead to the PlayStation 1 is definitely nothing short of schadenfreude.

Sorry, I am not going to let someone get a free pass on calling me racist when there is noting I said that was racist. JagCD just got upset because I am not agreeing with his assessment of how the 8-bit era played out. I have no ill will towards JagCD but I will not let anyone call me a racist and twist my words for their own agenda.

I haven't edited any comment like the one you are claiming. I edited a spelling error in my post and included "Funny that you decided to edit that racist comment out of your post!" after noticing that you removed you racist comment. Nice try jackass.

I challenge you to show me where I said that Europeans are inferior or even imply that. Again you are complete jackass who is trying twist my words into something that I never said or implied. It is you who brought race into this and not I, so don't even try it.

You are really offensive calling me a racist. How is stating that the two main market in which games are produced is racist. Maybe you should go consult a dictionary and learn what the definition of being a racist is. You are being a jackass calling me a racist because I won't agree with you delusional assessment of that era in 8-bit gaming. Funny that you decided to edit that racist comment out of your post!

I am talking worldwide as opposed to who did better in regions, but if you want to go regions typically it is the US and Japan that are the mainstream markets while other regions are secondary markets with few titles exclusive to those regions and Nintendo owned both the US and Japanese markets hands down by the time the dust hand settled down on that era.

I am going by the numbers. It would be revisionist history and completely absurd for anyone to not admit that Nintendo didn't win that 8-bit wars going on between the NES, 7800 and Master System. Nintendo sold more games than Atari ever did with any of their titles on the 7800 .

How do I pre-order for the 7900? Do I just post here in this thread that I want to be put on the pre-order list? I found this old link but it is long dead. http://www.legacyengineer.com/storefront/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=39&products_id=115

I wasn't flame warring. I didn't make any attacks on anyone. I am just clarifying my thoughts on my previous post.

I reached 100 posts today and it looks like my "Member Title" automatically got overridden by my new post count and changed to "Chopper Commander", but I am not surprised by that since the post count is coded to trigger the change upon hitting certain thresholds. I know it can be set manually by an forum moderator as a work around, but it would be best if a feature can be implemented such as the one I described in my opening post on this thread.

I am not criticizing Atari's arcade games as they had some very good titles that I enjoy. All I did was state "Nintendo realized that the home video game market was a different beast than the arcades". Super Mario Brother was more in depth than any other game at the time when it came it out (it required strategy, contained easter eggs and in catchy in game music and for the time superb graphics) and the game kept you wanting to find all the secrets and keep coming back for more. I know all about the history that the Super Mario Bros 2 released in the US was Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic with Mario spites added and I like Super Mario Bros 2 as has new characters and different game play from Super Mario Bros 1 (the Japanese version of Super Mario Bros 2 might as well just be call Super Mario Bros 1.5). I am die hard Atari fan and rooted hard for Atari back in those days, but being intellectually honest I have to admit that Nintendo had the better games and has always put focus even to this day on making stellar titles that make it compelling to own their systems just for those titles alone. Now the Ataribox is being teased at us and I can't help but be excited and root for Atari again because once an Atari fanboy always an Atari fanboy. One think that I would like to see come back is 2D games, but mow with the graphics that are possible from modern hardware and this genre has been slowly making its comeback over the past decade, but no one yes has capitalized on that and I feel that is where the Ataribox could carve out a niche and succeed brilliantly. One thing personally that I don't enjoy about some arcade games is that many are just shoot em up with no real goal other then to rack up point. For me it is very gratifying to complete a game or to achieve some set goal (to me just racking up points until you die is just not fulfilling). For me I want platformers, adventure games, and RPG's and unfortunately Atari was always lacking in those type of games. Now things that Nintendo didn't offer me were great games like Star Raiders and the space sims games have were always among my favorites and I still love playing them even today. Being a big fan of Atari it was frustrating to me to see the 7800, Lynx and Jaguar fail reach thier potential while other less advanced systems such as the NES, Gameboy and Super Nintendo ran circles around them.

I have to agree with you on this. Nintendo realized that the home video game market was a different beast than the arcades. As a result Nintendo ushered in the age of the platformer and the RPG genre. They realized that games needed to get the gamer more invested in caring about the game and as a result games became more complex in both game play and stories engaged the players. This lead to many franchises which most notably is the Super Mario and Zelda series. Atari was always stuck in the mode of arcade style games and trying to translate that experience to their home systems and that was understandable as Atari's success had started there and those roots in arcade machines that made them a lot of money and given them a big library of titles to cash in on. The video game market that Atari has know so well and made bank on until the market crash for the most part had changed around them and by the time they were ready to get back into it with the 7800 they found themselves for the first time with real competition in a strange & different world than the one that they had previously ruled. Atari was slow to try adopt change and Nintendo ran circles around them with amazing first party titles and as a result of those titles they manage to lock up almost all of ththird party talent as well. If Atari had been more focused on building amazing first party franchise titles and creating franchises that made gamers want to own their consoles they might have fared better against Nintendo, but as a result of being resistant to change Atari felt old and dated to the kids growing up with the NES as their first taste of video games (I am old enough to have been there when Atari was the only game in town, but I remember when the age of the NES dawned and no one wanted to the kid that owned an Atari as all the cool kids had Nintendo). Atari would try at times to compete but their games usually came of as poor copycat imitations of the successful title that Nintendo had already pioneered (just a Madman pointed out Scrapyard Dog vs Super Mario Brothers on the NES, or Hat Trick vs of Blades of Steel). By the time Atari had realized that they needed to stop trying to live off the successes of their past start innovating in order to survive they were too cash strapped and broken as company be able to effectively change course.

Awesomeness. I guess I will hold off on those 5000 posts that I was just was about to click the "Add Reply" button for

Looks like I still have a bit of a ways to go. I had better get trolling, lol (joking about that trolling comment).