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  1. Since it doesn't look like SubQMod is posting the news on AA (he's clearly too busy coding!), here goes...

     

    Version 2.0.0 of his emulator, Jagulator, is almost ready for release. In his youtube video you can see the emulator running many commercial game ROMs:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAO1-oEJwRo

     

    Not sure if it will include any tools for debugging or is just a straight emulator but the compatibility looks decent.

     

    Keep an eye on his site, it was updated earlier today with further fixes & better compatibility than the version shown in the video yesterday :thumbsup:

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  2. I believe he is saying the Jaguar isnt powerful enough for a decent voxel engine?

     

    It's more like he said his direct port of the PC game wasn't fast enough on the Jaguar (not surprising considering the way Silmarils games were constructed). Both he & the 3do programmer decided to scrap it for their own routines put together with their target hardware in mind.

     

    Maybe he just meant with the 68k and Atari's horrible support.

     

    Take a look at 'Electrons at Work' by TEK for the Amiga - that shows what a 68k based machine can do with voxels when asked nicely.


  3. Regarding the light guns, Matthias Domin successfully got one to work on the Jaguar several years ago, and did program a simple balloon-popping game. All the details are available on his website.

     

    It's a shame that there's no mileage with light gun stuff these days since modern screens don't work with them, something like Point Blank would be dead simple to get going on the Jaguar and lots of fun multi-player but who's going to want to keep a bulky old CRT around just for one or two games.. (OK, before loads of people shout "me!" I admit that some freaks like remowilliams do just that).


  4. It's not surprising really considering the curvature and the rough plastic (the area that is supposed to have stickers on a Jag cart is perfectly smooth, unlike the rest that is made to be more tactile). There's bound to be some kind of product that will sit them down & have them stay there, not sure how the existing adhesive would affect that though.


  5. Discussed this over at Jaguar Sector. A thought just occurred to me reading this thread. It makes me sad to have realised it. What if he knows no one will pay that amount? What if he just wants to add evidence that that is the value of his stock? And what if, a month from now, a fire breaks out in his warehouse and tragically destroys all his safely insured stock?

     

    Yep, I've decided that is the plan.

     

    lol, you really have been spending time at that forum (or should I say "the greatest community of Jaguar enthusiasts in the world" according to their grand highness).

     

    I'm pretty sure accusing people of stuff like that is not good form. The guy just wants to sell off his old junk that's probably costing him money to have sitting there. No, he doesn't want 1/3m for it - that's a high-end retail value that clearly isn't too realistic, but he's a businessman and he's got stuff to shift.

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  6. Not the best, but here is a quick and dirty video of the intro (forgive the end, I was trying to grab the controller to get it to the start screen)... Also linked out to the Songbird page Robinson's Requiem info page.

     

     

    Thanks. If you can do a vid of the in-game action that would be even better, I'm really curious to see how it looks as that old video from years ago with about 15 seconds of game play at the end suggests it performs better than most if not all other versions out there.


  7. It would be fairly easy to do a ROM selector CD for the SkunkBoards, booting the CD to a menu, then loading and flashing the skunk from files on the CD, and calling a reset to run the game.

     

    There, thats a nice little project for someone to take up :)

     

    I think Belboz made something like that for the 'preservation pack' release.


  8. Hey anyone who is a long time AAer that I've seen and wants me to forward them a copy of the game standard first class air mail feel free to PM me. No new users. I'll have a customs proof but you won't hold me liable for any lost shipments. Happy to help.

     

    AX

     

    Another example of why Atari Age will always be the best forum to participate in :thumbsup:

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  9. Yes I played it years ago on CD - can't imagine getting a cd game onto a cart :D maybe that was the reason for the delay?? :D

     

    Yea, well I still think of it as a 3-disk ST game. And you should know all about getting CD games onto carts... :ponder: :lol:


  10. looks like it, weird that the logo part looks so mangled though. Then again, so does the Jaguar logo. Anyone else think that might read "Jaguar CD"?


  11. If there was some big news that's probably where you'd find it, but for just keeping up to date it's probably best to keep an eye on the Yaronet thread.

     

    It was shown at AC2011 & level designing/testing was taking place there on a dedicated machine for at least some of the time. You could look at the few AC2011 reports and videos, you might catch a few piece of news in those.


  12. For the folks that wish to own the game, unless you want to spend a small fortune, it will always be impossible.

     

    That's one way of looking at it. I wouldn't use the word 'always' as there's nothing to be so certain about when it comes to collecting (not just videogames) & market forces. There are similarities here to apparent 'Holy Grails' in other collecting circles that folded in on themselves when the bubble burst. It's not unthinkable.

     

    Consider these minty fresh "factory sealed" copies that continue to appear from beneath a bed King Og might have considered overly spacious. Nobody knows how many more there are awaiting a similar fate (well, except the seller and apparently he's never been one to share exact facts and figures) or how long they will continue to trickle into circulation in such fashion. It's not sensible to speculate in such a way when this number is unknown.

     

    It doesn't seem that genuine supply & demand are the only forces in play when you consider this one game - I know I'm not the only person to believe there's something a little more contrived going on and it wouldn't be an isolated case of someone wishing to manipulate the value of something Jaguar.

     

    Anyway, put your maths hat on, it's time for...

     

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    • Take a minute to consider how many active Jaguar fans are out there, more specifically the collector variety (not really so easy to do as some people conduct their business well away from forums, but it should be possible to come to a figure that will suffice). What we can say is that the current figure in mid-2011 is nothing like what it once was, but you should probably allow for dormant collectors who are happy to sit on their collections as they are.
    • Total up how many copies of BS/G have been sold by the producers (again, not really possible to work out exactly as they've never been overly open when it comes to figures for units, percentages of profit to charity, percentage of profit to lawyers or "other parties" regarding trademarks etc., but a sufficiently accurate figure is possible with a little research and reading between the lines).
    • Do The Math. Simply compare the two figures and draw your own conclusions...
    • Now consider that some people are sitting on multiple copies, in at least one or two instances not just a trifling 2 or 3 of them. The excess here are copies, given the world we live in, such people are quite unlikely to want to take to their graves with them, although I wouldn't put it past some people I know ;) These are copies that in all likelihood they will want to cash in on at some point. Maybe a good point would be when "factory sealed" copies are changing hands for >$1,000.00?
    • Now allow for this and compare the figures again.
    • Also consider there are maybe a few people out there who are not Jaguar collectors or Jaguar fans, not people who want to sit back & bask in the warm glow of the shiny "factory sealed" collection centrepiece, but people who have seen the state of play, taken a punt & look forward to the day they can cash in & set sail for the Bahamas. These are not Jag fans, they're simply speculators. They're quite happy to see the current 'value' of the game & will be waiting to maximise profit when they cash their chips.

    Yes, the game is scarce - especially in "factory sealed" condition and when compared to any given officially released game/some post-Atari open-platform releases. But in real terms it's probably just borderline [R]are when in an opened/playable condition. If any collector wants to go bag a copy for playing, it can be done quite easily as long as the money is there to make it happen, there's always someone willing to cash-in. I'm not exactly sure what a used copy goes for currently. For quite some time it's been the case that people have bought the game (despite the large outlay involved) and have been reasonably safe to assume they could play it for a while before selling it on at a profit or at least managing to break even. But this simply can't last forever. Markets don't keep going up and up and up indefinitely, there's usually only one way that kind of situation ends and it's not usually a gentle slope back down to something more sensible.

     

    People lose interest. The Jaguar is ancient technology. It becomes less and less interesting to the gaming population as a whole as the years roll by. There are less & less people out there who haven't at least had a time-share BS/G in the collection at some point. Most people who have wanted to try that out have had their taste and moved on. There are simply not queues of new Jaguar fans on the horizon with $100 bills overflowing from their pockets who simply must own the game at any price.

     

    Quite probably, not so far in the future, there could well be downturn in value of BS/G, if not exactly a run on it, at least a sharp decline. Some might hold their nerve & hope that in another 5 or 10 years time there will still be people out there willing to spunk such huge wads on the game and sit on their copy/copies hoping for even more profit in time. Others will be reaching a point in their lives where extravagances such as videogame collections seem impractical and they'll be dumping parts of their collections more and more in favour of more 'sensible' purchases. If more than a handful of people chose to do this within a small time frame it will impact value.

     

    While some will be quite happy to continue to own or play the game they treasure so much, there's just not a new generation of Atari fans out there with a love of old hardware and games to take up any slack - these days the word Atari means nothing more than just another mediocre software publisher... and I won't just limit this to BS/G - it applies to the other Jaguar releases/homebrews many consider to be strangely over-valued. Anyone collecting VCS (at least in the UK - personal experience) back from the late 90s through to the early 00s will remember how huge sections of their collections fell through the floor in value in quite a short period of time. Jaguar could well be approaching a similar milestone but doing so with a much more condensed fanbase. Nobody can predict the future, but to suggest it simply won't happen and the sticking heads in the sand will do little to prevent it, it'll actually worsen the effect.

     

    Realistically, considering the state of the global economy and the less-than-stellar forecasts, it's hard to see how this $1,000.00 "factory sealed" BS/G craze can continue for much longer. Some people could get their fingers scorched if not well and truly burned. But then again, remember how many people scoffed at the price paid for the one-off version a little while back, doesn't seem so ridiculous on reflection now, does it...? Well of course it does, but at the moment it seems like a decent investment. That's where the problems lies... the game isn't a commodity to be traded but many of people are treating it as such. It has a best-before date, there will come a time when there is less demand and there is way more supply. But for now, it's safe to say that some people just have more money than sense, even if others could well be taking advantage of that.

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