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looking forward to this, cheers, Tim!

haha, congrats SubQMod! (I have a little tool that tells me when you update your site ) Don't be thinking too much about Jagulator on your honeymoon

To be truly free to design & explore new gaming concepts, you don't want to be anchored by the limitations of 20+ year old hardware. Exactly the kind of innovations you speak of happen all the time, but very, very rarely on old Atari hardware - rather on modern devices with way more multiples of processing power and fancy new player interaction techniques. The kind of platforms where you can implement pretty much anything you can imagine with little difficulty vs the kind of platform where you have to be a real hacker as you say - to be able to jump through hoops and perform all manner of perverse feats just to make stuff happen that the end-user is, 99 times out of 100, going to be totally unaware of anyway With old machines, it's often the joy of making the systems do things they weren't meant to rather than aiming to bring brand new gaming experiences to a handful of retro-head gamers... gamers who are fans of their system precisely because of the nostalgia/simplicity/simple and pure gaming fun/whatever other reason that ties them to their outdated hardware. I'm not saying it can't be done. I try to keep up with the things happening in browser-based gaming. A lot of people pooh-pooh it without ever giving it a chance and for that they miss out on a lot of interesting games. There are plenty of thoughtful takes on old ideas and also some truly elegant retro-styled games that hide some very clever understanding of how games work behind a handful of colours and some over-sized pixels. I think it's unfair to expect much of what is good about all that to come out of the confines of ancient hardware that is inherently highly technical. Basically it's asking someone/a small team not only to have a deep technical understanding of the old hardware platform but also for them to have the imagination and creativity to think of something nobody already did in the last 20-30 years. If such a person/team exists, I suggest they stop wasting their time playing to an audience of a couple of hundred people & go share their talents with millions of eager gamers craving this new experience.

I'll give you $65,536.00... ...double the price, that's why they call me Terry Tibbs. Much love xxx

Tried the first pic & it loaded up - weird though, it seemed to be a shrinked jaguar console - were they sold like that in the US? I'm pretty sure all the new Jaguars I've had were just 'sealed' with the silver sticker over the flap. Then again, my memory is poor!

GGN's windows vrs. build-a-tron keeps on working hard - 383 is sitting waiting If you've not played with VJ for a while, it's worth having a tinker - seems to be some games get further & work better in recent builds, surprising stuff. /me still massively overjoyed at all the Jaguar emulator activity in recent times!

Meh. They're both pretty shit. I don't waste my time comparing current systems never mine decades old ones.

my argument appears to have been safely locked away in his cage during the cut-scene your 3DO claims to be macho but all I see is an overweight hairy greased up chap of the type who enjoy rather a lot of touchy-feely with other bulky hirsuite baby-oil-botherers, often doing so in full view of consenting adults & impressionable children. mucho macho!!11one score: 2/10 Really, I doubt many kids were playing with the $700 oily overweight hairy hamster molester for the 3 months he was on sale in 1993. Kids were still playing their SNES or their Mega Drive, not the 3do. All totally besides the point I was making which was that it was 1993 & people often expect too much from a system that is now over 18 years old.

Come on.. it's was released in 1993 ffs Back when kids were still playing their SNES & Megadrives. Of course it looks utter arse in 2011... The 2D stuff still stands up well today though & always will do, that's the nature of the beast with 2D gaming... the nostalgia, familiarity, simple pick-up-and-play fun of 2D is timeless, as all the new retro remakes, xbox/ps3/wii downloadable titles and countless mobile device games show again and again on a daily basis... it's not surprising hardly anyone gets moist at the thought of some 1993-level 3D as it was barely out of the gimmicky 'yeah, 3d! so wtf-do-we-do-now?!" phase of game evolution... For 3D the hardware simply didn't live up to developer's imaginations, whereas with 2D it's the player's imagination that often drives the experience & frees it from such superficial pitfalls. Oh and yeah, remow's right, you couldn't have picked two worse games to try, sorry! As for upcoming stuff that 'pushes' the Jaguar... these same lines are wheeled out every time someone mentions the poor performance of Jaguar's 3D games. Only time will tell how much of it actually makes it to a worthwhile gaming experience any of us can actually sit and play at home, that's the holy grail that's been touted for several years longer than the commercial life of the Jaguar. Awesome 3D Tech demos & engines are one thing & have their place - turning those into fully-featured, playable games that look impressive and capture the player's attention and imagination in 2011 will be nothing short of an astonishing amount of work... it's something dedicated teams of professionals couldn't nearly manage back when a decent amount of people actually cared about the Jaguar... the sheer amount of work in testing and refinement cycles is utterly phenomenal. Not that it's impossible, just that I don't think there's a crack team of hardcore Jaguar devs out there that are really up for donating half of their adult lives to making it happen - because that's what it'd take being realistic. There's no point going balls-to-the-wall on the visuals if the underlying game doesn't go beyond what would have been much simpler to realise in 2D & just as much actual fun to play. Yeah, it's much easier to admit the Jag is a bit of a dog when it comes to designing & implementing 3D games of worth in 2011 & systems like the DC are far more straight-forward & fun to explore. (Not looking to upset anyone or start a flame war, just my point of view from where I'm sitting... apologies if I came across otherwise, just stating the way I see things based on my experience of Atari homebrewing over the last 2 decades).

Oh, that [email protected]***.*** who attempted to buy one of our shitty 8-bit games must have been someone else, lol... he probably had a buyer lined up for a $3 mark-up - MOAR MON£Y$!

Good point well made. I'd say only Gorf could answer that one accurately... AA Jaguar forum has not been like it was for so long since a handful of lamers, fucknuts and generally naughty-little-boys got the boot, but there's still a few hangers-on spouting the same old, tired, indoctrinated shite the rest of us have managed to be able to tune out. We came, entered several shitstorms and escaped the other side, it can be done! The more you marginalise the idiocy, the more you prove what they've been spouting to be false, the better the emulators get, the more you'll see Jaguar development happening and the less you'll hear from those who went off and locked themselves in a hippy commune of hate.

kevincal, looks to me like you're trying hard to earn the coveted 'banned-from-AA-now-hiding-in-exile' award... the racism was a good try, but on the whole you're just not trying hard enough, lol... You'd have to go posting pictures of your genitals or something to get banned from here, you got any photies like that handy?

But you missed the part where kevincal made his semi-regular trolling/argumentative/inane idiocy followed by winky smileys. Mention vapour trails & blame it all on the Jews & you'd have the full set & we'd be able to lock this thread and forget about you again for a while. Now trot along, I'm sure you've got some $3 markups to rake in with your eBay flipping, or maybe you'll feel inspired to work on some more fake Reboot videos with your little pals... whatever you decide to do, I suggest you don't come back here with your nonsense, or I might be forced to update the Reboot website with a piece I've been writing regarding members of the Atari community frequenting hook-up sites such as f*ckb*ddies.com... Your call.

*edit.. disregard this, too

Nope, I'm pretty sure he said people prefer the 32-bit style of aircars...

Yep, the dbug box can be quite troublesome, that's why we moved the reboot site to atari.org. GGN will probably fix things later

You've probably got your hands full with other things... I don't think there's much hate around the forum anymore.

You can blame myself and GGN for that - CJ really wanted to make some videos to show off what we've been up to but he got out-voted as we're against giving too much away too soon We're not really about making videos, better to just get on and make stuff instead CJ has still been doing things with Rebooteroids from time to time as you can see from his blog, but neither of us have much time right now. Very recently we have been working on a much smaller project instead which suits the free time we have better and keeps it all interesting and fun. In time we'll be back to Rebooteroids to get it finished off and then we can look to getting some carts made up. What he says is right if you stick with the default settings, but I'd have to disagree with CJ's comment tbh - I have a Chaos Reins, a Tyrant rotary & a Jonathan Ascough rotary (impossible to develop a game properly without knowing exactly how it is going to handle with the various hardware out there - if anyone has anything more exotic they want to be sure will work with the game, get in touch) - all three are perfect for the game as you can adjust the sensitivity very finely in the options menu, allowing the player to get the game handling exactly as they wish. For my personal preference, I like to make the latter two pads more sensitive and leave the default setting for the CR, that way I can make a complete rotation with very little movement of the left hand. Some people prefer it less twitchy.Oh, I also swapped the knob on the JA pad for a knobbly chrome one, it makes it a bit grippier for quick turns and helps me tell it apart form the Tyrant pad easier, but that's beside the point

There's no plan for that, sorry.

The reboot site moved from dbug to atari.org so all links to the dbug site are now down. I'll see if we can get the links form AA fixed between us.

Doing my usual BUMP to point you in the direction of subqmod's site - blitter rewrite progress report

I've used Chaos Reins, Tyrant & Jonathan Ascough (hope I spelled that correctly) and all play perfectly once you use the adjustment slider. It can take a minute or two trial and error to get it 100% spot on, but they all play perfectly. I find the CR spinner is the best for tempest as it's nice & twitchy as well as free-spinning, but the other two work well with it... shame there's no calibration there, it could be better. maybe you need to do your 2nd Jaguar ROM patch? Impluse X supports spinners, mice & anything else you dare plug in it seems