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lol, you really have been spending time at that forum (or should I say "the greatest community of Jaguar enthusiasts in the world" according to their grand highness). I'm pretty sure accusing people of stuff like that is not good form. The guy just wants to sell off his old junk that's probably costing him money to have sitting there. No, he doesn't want 1/3m for it - that's a high-end retail value that clearly isn't too realistic, but he's a businessman and he's got stuff to shift.

Someone give gaztee a call

That's impressive compared with the other versions, shifts around nicely

Thanks. If you can do a vid of the in-game action that would be even better, I'm really curious to see how it looks as that old video from years ago with about 15 seconds of game play at the end suggests it performs better than most if not all other versions out there.

We want VIDEO!

I think Belboz made something like that for the 'preservation pack' release.

Anyone who wants an everdrive for the jaguar should go post in the'Suggested Everdrives' thread on the official Everdrive forum at Assembler. If nobody speaks up...

Another thing worth noting is that if you add further Jaguar games (I tired CDs) to the basket, the shipping price does not increase, so maybe there's some value in picking up 1 or 2 other items at the same time?

Another example of why Atari Age will always be the best forum to participate in

See - German efficiency at work again!

Yea, well I still think of it as a 3-disk ST game. And you should know all about getting CD games onto carts...

looks like it, weird that the logo part looks so mangled though. Then again, so does the Jaguar logo. Anyone else think that might read "Jaguar CD"?

If there was some big news that's probably where you'd find it, but for just keeping up to date it's probably best to keep an eye on the Yaronet thread. It was shown at AC2011 & level designing/testing was taking place there on a dedicated machine for at least some of the time. You could look at the few AC2011 reports and videos, you might catch a few piece of news in those.

Robert's util makes the creation of these CD simpler.

Have you tried powering the Jaguar on its own with just the power pack form the jag CD?

Downfall 24411

That's one way of looking at it. I wouldn't use the word 'always' as there's nothing to be so certain about when it comes to collecting (not just videogames) & market forces. There are similarities here to apparent 'Holy Grails' in other collecting circles that folded in on themselves when the bubble burst. It's not unthinkable. Consider these minty fresh "factory sealed" copies that continue to appear from beneath a bed King Og might have considered overly spacious. Nobody knows how many more there are awaiting a similar fate (well, except the seller and apparently he's never been one to share exact facts and figures) or how long they will continue to trickle into circulation in such fashion. It's not sensible to speculate in such a way when this number is unknown. It doesn't seem that genuine supply & demand are the only forces in play when you consider this one game - I know I'm not the only person to believe there's something a little more contrived going on and it wouldn't be an isolated case of someone wishing to manipulate the value of something Jaguar. Anyway, put your maths hat on, it's time for... Take a minute to consider how many active Jaguar fans are out there, more specifically the collector variety (not really so easy to do as some people conduct their business well away from forums, but it should be possible to come to a figure that will suffice). What we can say is that the current figure in mid-2011 is nothing like what it once was, but you should probably allow for dormant collectors who are happy to sit on their collections as they are. Total up how many copies of BS/G have been sold by the producers (again, not really possible to work out exactly as they've never been overly open when it comes to figures for units, percentages of profit to charity, percentage of profit to lawyers or "other parties" regarding trademarks etc., but a sufficiently accurate figure is possible with a little research and reading between the lines). Do The Math. Simply compare the two figures and draw your own conclusions... Now consider that some people are sitting on multiple copies, in at least one or two instances not just a trifling 2 or 3 of them. The excess here are copies, given the world we live in, such people are quite unlikely to want to take to their graves with them, although I wouldn't put it past some people I know These are copies that in all likelihood they will want to cash in on at some point. Maybe a good point would be when "factory sealed" copies are changing hands for >$1,000.00? Now allow for this and compare the figures again. Also consider there are maybe a few people out there who are not Jaguar collectors or Jaguar fans, not people who want to sit back & bask in the warm glow of the shiny "factory sealed" collection centrepiece, but people who have seen the state of play, taken a punt & look forward to the day they can cash in & set sail for the Bahamas. These are not Jag fans, they're simply speculators. They're quite happy to see the current 'value' of the game & will be waiting to maximise profit when they cash their chips. Yes, the game is scarce - especially in "factory sealed" condition and when compared to any given officially released game/some post-Atari open-platform releases. But in real terms it's probably just borderline [R]are when in an opened/playable condition. If any collector wants to go bag a copy for playing, it can be done quite easily as long as the money is there to make it happen, there's always someone willing to cash-in. I'm not exactly sure what a used copy goes for currently. For quite some time it's been the case that people have bought the game (despite the large outlay involved) and have been reasonably safe to assume they could play it for a while before selling it on at a profit or at least managing to break even. But this simply can't last forever. Markets don't keep going up and up and up indefinitely, there's usually only one way that kind of situation ends and it's not usually a gentle slope back down to something more sensible. People lose interest. The Jaguar is ancient technology. It becomes less and less interesting to the gaming population as a whole as the years roll by. There are less & less people out there who haven't at least had a time-share BS/G in the collection at some point. Most people who have wanted to try that out have had their taste and moved on. There are simply not queues of new Jaguar fans on the horizon with $100 bills overflowing from their pockets who simply must own the game at any price. Quite probably, not so far in the future, there could well be downturn in value of BS/G, if not exactly a run on it, at least a sharp decline. Some might hold their nerve & hope that in another 5 or 10 years time there will still be people out there willing to spunk such huge wads on the game and sit on their copy/copies hoping for even more profit in time. Others will be reaching a point in their lives where extravagances such as videogame collections seem impractical and they'll be dumping parts of their collections more and more in favour of more 'sensible' purchases. If more than a handful of people chose to do this within a small time frame it will impact value. While some will be quite happy to continue to own or play the game they treasure so much, there's just not a new generation of Atari fans out there with a love of old hardware and games to take up any slack - these days the word Atari means nothing more than just another mediocre software publisher... and I won't just limit this to BS/G - it applies to the other Jaguar releases/homebrews many consider to be strangely over-valued. Anyone collecting VCS (at least in the UK - personal experience) back from the late 90s through to the early 00s will remember how huge sections of their collections fell through the floor in value in quite a short period of time. Jaguar could well be approaching a similar milestone but doing so with a much more condensed fanbase. Nobody can predict the future, but to suggest it simply won't happen and the sticking heads in the sand will do little to prevent it, it'll actually worsen the effect. Realistically, considering the state of the global economy and the less-than-stellar forecasts, it's hard to see how this $1,000.00 "factory sealed" BS/G craze can continue for much longer. Some people could get their fingers scorched if not well and truly burned. But then again, remember how many people scoffed at the price paid for the one-off version a little while back, doesn't seem so ridiculous on reflection now, does it...? Well of course it does, but at the moment it seems like a decent investment. That's where the problems lies... the game isn't a commodity to be traded but many of people are treating it as such. It has a best-before date, there will come a time when there is less demand and there is way more supply. But for now, it's safe to say that some people just have more money than sense, even if others could well be taking advantage of that.

I made a Jaguar TTF a while back, it's not very good & I'm not happy with lots of it, but maybe someone wants to touch it up & replace a few of the ropier characters.It's called 'beebris' but will install as 'jagwar' I think. EDIT: lol, A B C D E F.. J?! That's typing in the dark for you

Thought I'd kick things off since I had some free time, so I gave each game a single play: Beebris: 8781 (level 9) SuperFly DX: 4727 Downfall: 10430 All those are beatable (esp. SF) so I'll give them all a proper go later on! I won't be using my old high scores either, that'd be cheating

Very nice! It's well-deserved. I actually just played it myself a few moments ago (along with SuperflyDX).. Just be aware that if you follow that link you should ignore the comments section - seems someone who used to frequent these parts has taken it upon himself to create spoof accounts in an attempt to cause the kind of trouble he used to revel in both here and on js2 before the ban hammer saw to him on both forums. Great way to reaffirm what many already think about the fabled 'Jaguar Community', but there you go, jealousy obviously motivates some people more than simply being productive or helpful

Have to say I'm amazed to see this here, what a really nice surprise Just shhhh, nobody tell Atardi...please! Project Tempest & Virtual Jaguar FTW!

Thanks Stephen, I'll use your advice to investigate, cheers! Nothing mechanical that I am aware of. Video is hard to see but once lid is closed I can see a partial rotation there, it might be that something is catching on the CD unit casing, check the following... 1) does the optical head move and motor spin correctly without a CD? If not then 2) does the optical head move and motor spin correctly with the top of the case removed? If not then 3) double check that you have installed it correctly and not damaged any of the wires/cable attached to the transport and that connectors are attached the correct way up, particully that the flexible circuit is inserted into the FCC connector the correct way up as it is single sided.