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Again, I'm not commenting on the merits of any of the hardware or games, just on the advantages/disadvantages each company had at the time. The Saturn was slowing down significantly by the end of 1997 (two years before the release of the DC). To the general public, it was perceived as being yet another system that Sega was abandoning. Perhaps isolated from the history of the CD and 32X, the Saturn wouldn't be seen so negatively... but unfortunately the gaming public looked at the CD-32X-Saturn timeline and collectively thought "Wow, Sega hasn't really hit a home run since the Genesis." In late 1999, consumer goodwill was NOT something Sega had as an asset. That was the line of thinking that led people to avoid buying Dreamcasts. Even the people who DID buy one often had an attitude of "Well, it's Sega, so I'll just enjoy it until they discontinue it." Which, of course, is exactly what happened. Actually people bought Dreamcasts in droves!Theyhad some very large initial sales numbers. It was really groundbreaking and an easy sales during the 1st year. It really was a gamechanger, Sadly people had SONY itus and when they knew ps2 was coming, that was it. Plus the PS2 did have DVD, it seems like so far with every console Sony puts out they try to revolutionize the gaming market with some new type of format. PS1 was CD(yes saturn was out first but only by a few months). Then the PS2 had DVD which took off quit quickly, then they tried again with the PS3 and Blue-ray. Too bad for them that idea and timing came to bite them in the butt somewhat, seeing as Blue-ray has not taken over as quickly as DVD did which seems to have cost them money in the long run. Now as for sony itus, yes there brand name was stronger and that's the thing. Back then and even now some people buy a product just based on the brand of the console manufacturer. people saw the name Sony and thought it would be just like the PS1 again which it did eventually. Which is what I hate, is when people buy and defend a console just because it might be from a certain brand. That's why I generally wait to buy a console a year or so until they have the bugs worked out and have a good game lineup. Except for the Dreamcast of course, that first day buy was a leap of fate and it paid off for the time it was out, plus there were Japanese imports. Of course there is the Wii which I just bought last Christmas, because it took 5 years before it had enough games that interested me and made the cost worth it(of course now there is a new console but oh well.)

very cool indeed.

very good reviews so far.

This would make Worms a lot more fun. Does the tap wire the controllers in series? No, that is not even possible. It monitors each controller port for a keypad button 9 press (not used by Worms). When it detects that full access between the controller in that port and the Jaguar is permitted while full access to the other ports is blocked. The LEDs in to top of the unit show which port (numbered 1 - 4) is active and Worms Overlays with backgounds coded to team text colours are provided to help players identify which team they are and thus when it is their turn. That's a excellent way of doing it, I wonder why Atari did not release something similar themselves.

Agree, It is just overpriced for a handheld, for that price a person could buy a Xbox 360 and a game.

When the Dreamcast launched, Sega had already burned customers three times over on hardware. Yes, the DC lineup was spectacular, but it was a common sentiment that the DC was really just a warm-up for the PS2. True, the PS2 had a drought of games that lasted for over a year after launch, but even if it hadn't, Sega was losing money on the DC and Sony was on everyone's minds. In none of these cases am I talking about the quality of the system or games. I'm just saying by 1999, Sega no longer had the ingredients for success at their disposal. In other words, yes, they were a one-legged midget. Just wondering where did you get three times over. The only one that is total crap was the 32X, the CD was a little better and the Saturn while not there best was not any where near as bad, maybe twice on the 32X and CD or even just once on the 32X but not three times.

interesting.

I am personally hoping they show more of Mass Effect 3, Sonic generations as well as others. Of course the big one is going to be the new Nintendo console. I have heard they might be using a design that looks like a modern SNES, which I hope is true and can't wait to see seeing as I grew up with a SNES.

I think it's a bit strong to say the PS1 did well because of weak competition. The PS1 perrformed very well, and the Saturn and N64 that it bested were pretty good competition. You're not saying they (the competition) suck, are you? The PS2 was less-groundbreaking, but rode in on waves of PS1 success and DVD popularity. I wouldn't say Sony never knew how to compete, but I'd say they appear to have lost their way in recent years. At the time the PS1 launched, Nintendo didn't have a console ready, so they had to compete using only the SNES. Obviously, it was no contest. The N64 was a GREAT system, IMO, but it launched a full 2 years later. Combine that with the unpopular decision to use carts, and Nintendo was never able to really challenge the PS1. Sega was in a similar position, launching the Saturn with a crazy price while hampered by their reputation for poor support (32X/CD). It's also well-documented how the Saturn's 3D capabilities were rushed-- and it showed. Yes, the PS1 was a desirable system in its own right, but Sony launched at a time when neither Sega nor Nintendo had the resources to compete on the same terms. Likewise, when the PS2 launched, the Saturn had died as a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that carried over to the Dreamcast. Sega was ready to bail on hardware by then anyway. Microsoft was entering the market as a total newbie, with deep pockets but zero existing customer loyalty. Nintendo was spending the entire generation proving they "learned their lesson" with the N64. Again, PS2 came along and knocked over the competition like the one-legged midgets they were. However, neither of those generations compares evenly to today's market, where Nintendo has become a hot product for gamers and non-gamers alike, and Microsoft has established itself as the format of choice for HD/Online-heavy play. This generation is the first time Sony's been up against competitors who aren't making mistake after mistake. It's the first time Sony has come into a console war and NOT been the default choice. So yeah, that's the logic behind what I said earlier-- it's not that Sony "forgot" how to compete, it's that Sony is just now getting real competition. agree with Microsoft and Nintendo being one-legged midgets but do not agree with that term being used for Sega, the Dreamcast had a amazing set of games for the short period it was out, plus it was the DVD drive that helped Sony. For the first year the system was used for Playing DVD's like matrix almost more then playing games, seeing as its launch line up sucked.

Also Dance central seems fun and really well done. Should be a new game from Capcom soon done by some the original people that did Panzer Dragoon and surprise you control a person riding a dragon trying to save his home land. Am actually looking forward to how the controls will work.

Would have to go with Tower Toppler.

surprisingly Kinectamils has gotten some good scores, game Informer even as far as to say that it has a story line.

Oh yeah. Pinball FX2 is great. Im sure people here will give you opinions about tables also. Which to buy and which to pass on. I say get all the Marvel tables first. Thanks, is it a full release or was it released on the Xbox live store.

Still getting an error. [#10355] You must cast your vote in each question of the poll. Besides Video games I collect Antique furniture, Die cast Vechicles(for example I have a 1:18 of a Tucker Torpedo and a Packard Caribbean) Image comics(Invincible and The Astounding Wolf-Man) Hard Cover Books(mostly Sci-Fi and Fantasy) LaserDiscs and VHS Sheet music(play the Alto Saxophone), Vinyl, and Cassette

sorry to hear that happened.

I did not even know there was a pinball game for the system. Might have to look into it, Dragons Crush is one of the reason's I bought a TurboGrafx.

If they could do this in games and still get a good constant frame-rate it will just go to show that consoles generations only being 5 years long like some people want is a waste of console power and potential.

Currently finishing for the fifth time Mass Effect 2, also playing Halo Reach, Halo Wars, Banjo Kazooie, Sonic all stars racing.

Agree.

good list of games.

Looks good, good work.

good luck, will have to join sometime.

very interesting, lots of good info.

will agree, that's what got me to buy my SNES.

looks good actually. Wonder why the back was put on in the first place.