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Being an international person, I had the best of three worlds: Germany: TeleMatch, ASM, Happy Computer UK: C&VG (first ever UK gaming magazine (Nov 1981), Page 6, Monitor, Atari User, ZZAP!64, Mean Machines, The Games Machine, Total, Ace, Raze, Game Zone, Games X, and another dozen or so C64 magazines. USA: Electronic Games (rocked), Antic, Analog, Computer Gaming World (worlds first ever gaming magazine (Nov 1981)), EGM, some USA C64 magazine, name I forgot

So you guys don't like it because it didn't have direct arcade ports? That's pretty stupid lame reason to hate the NES. Maybe you just don't get the 8bit era. But I suspect it has to do with other reasons Trouble with Dittohead is that like his other post (best consoles in his mind), his research is always very flawed (always looks like a Wiki cut and paste job). Ratio means jack shit to a gamer. The amount of good games are real measure of worth. SGX probably has one of the best ratio of good games to bad for any system (I put it at 60%, but some put it higher). And I doubt anyone has it as their top system of choice N-Gage is pretty much crap from what I've seen. If I had to make a list: CD-I 3D0 Jaguar N-Gage I can't think of a fifth at the moment. And thats the trouble with you non-gamers:....'from what I've seen'.... Now, I have a COMPLETE Tiger game.com collection (20 games and that's including the built-in game), 17 out of those 20 titles are horrible, so clearly game.com deserves the number one spot without a doubt, if you gotta judge handhelds. Not N-Gage, N-Gage has excellent titles, arcade ports and all. But, and this is a handy tip from me, you gotta play to judge, otherwise, ship out and stay quiet.

Jealous of the NES?, not likely. I agree with The_Lairds NES comment. Trouble with Dittohead is that like his other post (best consoles in his mind), his research is always very flawed (always looks like a Wiki cut and paste job). N-Gage, for example, I have a COMPLETE collection (yes, complete list of games is known), and the good/bad ratio of games is actually way better when compared to the NES/Famicom, meaning the games on N-Gage are of very good quality indeed. And using the N-Gage as a cell is kinda cool, it makes everyone take notice for sure. Yes, I still use mine nowadays.

It was originally in the Atari 8-Bit Computer forum, which at the moment seems to be suffering from a mild case of Jaguar disease. I'm sure it will make a full recovery soon. Yes, reading through the Atari 8 forum, always the same two 'trolling' (STE and TMR, both from British Petrol country) when someone's mentioning C64 there. C64 always belongs in the 'Classic Computing' section.

And you ask this on a biased ATARI forum because.......? But yes, Lynx is more powerful, even running on batteries.

Nobody knows how many good or bad games are on 'any' given console. To determine this, first you gotta PLAY the whole library of games; one cannot take magazine reviews or youTube vids for granted, you gotta make up your own mind; and second, achieving this will never be possible (How many games out of the Famicom/NES library have YOU played. Maybe a certain amount of US titles, but native releases, that's a bit harder). OK, it's easy to play through the whole library of games for game.com, as there are only 22, but who here played all PS titles, including Japan-only releases?

What, a Rhythm game and a stupid American sports game, but no Space Invaders?

Yes, it was rather 'Nintendo', did you even check out/look at other companies like Sega, 3DO, Coleco, Sony (hello Lara Croft), Intellivision...etc? I think not, and there's where your essay fails.

Not a very good essay, focussing mainly on Zelda and Metroid??? Oh you mentioned Carol Shaw....ever heard of Rebecca Heineman? Suki Lee? Marilyn Churchill? Laura Nikolich??? All these are early VCS artists, together with a softography of over 200 titles. On VCS game Ghost Manor (Xonox 1983), the (nameless) girl saves her friend from Dracula, no less. In Sir Lancelot and Robin Hood, the women locked up in the castles have to be saved from enemies and dragons (also Xonox (1983), like Mario did later on NES Anita Sinclair is the British programmer somebody here was thinking of, working mainly on computer games. Here's one, from Level 9 Computing: Female computer character in UK computer game Snowball (1983), Return to Eden (1984) Kim Kimberly was a female hero in the Silicon Dreams trilogy (Atari 800) and would kick Samus' butt. (The protagonist in the two first instalments, Kim Kimberley, is a tall, athletic, intelligent woman with brown eyes and fair hair. She was born and raised at Hampstead Crèche, which was closed when she was 13 due to violations of the Android Protection Acts. She finished her education at the Milton Keynes School of Life in Malta, then returned to England for National Service. She started out doing standard security work with the occasional surveillance of subversive members of society, but ended working as a counter-espionage agent. Still in her twenties, Kim accepted to travel undercover on the Snowball 9 to be there as the last resort for the worst-case scenario.) Samus in 1986? Old hat. So it's a computer game, so what, I always include computer games.

Thanks. no list of games on the back, no instruction sheet either. On the back of box its says '64 Game Cartridge' (same as front, with the '64' being a stick-on label), and at the bottom is a little print saying 'Atari and VCS are trademark of Atari Inc.'

as seen here, does one know who's the company behind it? games are selected by toggling the B&W switch

Here's a nice Odyssey on EBAY GERMANY, with all the rare game titles, These 4 games from 73 are very seldom on EBAY: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170497172509

No prob. http://www.digitpress.com/library/manuals/atari2600/rescue_terra_1.pdf

Interton VC4000 (1978) was the first programmable console to feature true analoge sticks.

I don't care about Nintendo stuff being in there, I just can't stand when some Nintendo fanboys claiming 'Nintendo did this first, Nintendo did that first', when in reality this is not the case. A bit of proper research wouldn't hurt.

I think the Vectrex was the first console to include Analouge sticks???? Can anyone confirm that? Read my reply on previous page, Interton VC4000 (1978) was the first programmable console to feature true analoge sticks (and they were hard-wired so they had to be included), followed by Atari 5200 and Vectrex in 1982

Also, the computer industry did very well after the video game crash, with leading computers like C64, Apple 2 and Atari 8-bit. Activision started on VCS, and continued on C64, very easy.

Before I forget, the Vectrex analogue controllers were standard pack-in, as were the Interton VC 4000 analogue sticks. The Vetrex even featured 4 fire buttons (long before SNES), the Interton VC4000 had two fire buttons and a full programmable keypad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interton_VC_4000

Almost everyone in USA (or Japan) but not the rest of the world.

Wow, many errors, I correct some already: The NES didn't create many firsts at all, maybe one innovation was the built-in microphone in the Famicom joypad first 4 controller ports were on Atari 5200 (1982) (and Atari 400/800 in the 70s)...not N64 first true analoge sticks: Interton VC 4000 (1978), Atari 5200 (1982), Vectrex (1982), many Pong consoles in the 70s.....not N64 first Battery backup in cartridge: Dragonslayer on the Epoch Super Cassettevision (1984)....not NES shooting gun accessory: numerous Pong consoles throughout the 70s.....not NES female: you could say the selectable female character in Ghost Manor (VCS,1982)...Ms. Pac-Man actually counts....so NES loses again first video game with endings: try on VCS Pitfall, Pitfall 2, Smurfs etc...not NES accessories: on VCS: Exus Video Jogger/Reflex complete with jogging mat, Amiga Joyboard, Milton Bradley's accessories for VCS.....not NES first online gaming or downloadable games: Intellivision first 4-player on 2 port console: VCS paddles....not NES 'let's play Atari', was already coined before 'play Nintendo' internet access: already happened on Genesis and SNES years earlier before DC Actually, launched in 1977 the Atari VCS CPU was not primitive at all, but Nintendo were still hammering out primitive Pong consoles BTW, the quality control sticker on NES games only meant the cart works in said console, nothing more (you obviously haven't seen the 'glut' of bad games on NES).

Mine would be....Video Olympics Whereas California Games is not an 'Olympic' really, then include Party Mix as well

MS BOB and MS Xenix. and BeOS is rather good.

I used to have Peek a Boo proto, that's a childrens game

I got the same box as you, and I bought my Lynx in early 91 in the UK, so it might also be a Euro box, given both French and English language on the box.

Pretenders first album I think has Space Invaders noise as well.