Jagasian
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Lacan, he said that Castlevania III works. Just give it a good cleaning and see if it works.Yes, Castlevania III works perfectly. Don't trust all of the lies. There are no problems with the NEX. Your cart must be dirty. Anyway, if you can't get it to work, its no big deal. Any games that don't work aren't worth playing anyway.
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OK, you got me. I made up all of that stuff about Messiah claiming that the NEX was not based on a NOAC, that it would have improved compatibility, and I also made up the fact that the NEX is not just another NES clone, which offers nothing substantially new or better over any other NES clone... no, the NEX is worth $30 more than a Neo Fami or a refurbished original NES. It turns out that Castlevania III and Gauntlet work perfectly, as do all of those wonderful Koei games, Camerica games, and NES reproductions. I was also lying about the A/V stuff. The NEX's video and colors are perfect... no they are better than the original NES's, and the audio is even better still! I was also making all that stuff up about the fact that an original NES can also be used with the same wireless controllers as the NEX. Of course that isn't true, I mean, if it was, then that means that somebody would have to sell a receiver unit, of sorts, which could be plugged into the NES's controller ports, so that the wireless controller could communicate with an original NES. The problem is that nobody makes such a receiver, and therefore the NEX is the only NES system capable of using wireless controllers.
I also had several forum accounts on this forum and at DP, which I used to post as numerous different people, pretending to attack attack the NEX and making up all sorts of lies. I also started several web sites, under different aliases, which I also used to write negative reviews about the NEX. Hell, I even got a job at Lik-sang, so that I could trick the company into dropping the NEX from our inventory by claiming that it wasn't up to our standards of quality. By the way, that negative comment on Lik-sang's NEX reviews was also written by me. It was all part of my plan.
Yes, Messiah was completely innocent of any wrong doing, and there are no problems with the NEX. I realize that I will go down in history as a big liar, and that the NEX will forever be recognized as an improved recreation of the original NES. In fact, most people will ditch their original NES systems in favor of this unofficial clone so that they can finally play all of their NES games, with improved audio and video and wireless controllers!
BTW, did you know that I was the person who started all of those false rumors about the Xbox 360 crashing and being incompatible with many original Xbox games? Yes, I am tricky bastard indeed. But hey, none of it is true, so you can just ignore the lies.
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This FPGA sound extremely cool. It's like my Xbox, but not as convenient, and superior emulation than the Xbox has (so far).You can't use NES and Famicom peripherials with FCE Ultra X on the Xbox. These peripherials: lightgun, power glove, ROB, power pad, u-force, family basic keyboard, etc are part of the NES experience. The FPGA NES is compatible with all of these peripherials.
Also, why would you say that the FPGA NES is less convenient than playing NES games on a modded Xbox via FCE Ultra X? You just put game ROMs on a flash card, plug it into the FPGA NES, plug that into your TV, and plug some NES controllers into the FPGA NES... and don't forget to add power of course.
I was an early adopter of FCE Ultra X, and an even earlier adopter of FCE Ultra (cuz I use Linux and it is the best NES emulator for Linux). I am familiar with the emulator's shortcomings, incompatibilities, and inaccuracies. I've also done extensive comparisons of FCE Ultra X and a real NES both hooked up on the same TV. I found that the actual video output quality of the XBox is inferior to a real NES, and yes I have compared both side-by-side after extensive tweaking of the Xbox. The Xbox's output is blury and washed out by comparison, and this is something that FCE Ultra X has no control over, save disabling the flicker filter, which makes the image sharper but causes horrible image shuddering, which looks worse than the original blury image. Also, there are games that FCE Ultra X plays in a buggy fashion and there are games that don't run at all.
It is important to note that FCE Ultra X on the Xbox actually has better compatibility and accuracy than Messiah's NEX.
The FPGA NES, on the other hand, is accurate down to the circuit-level of both the NES and of the cartridge mappers, and its audio and video output are identical to a real NES when using composite RCA AV outputs. It is no longer emulation or NOAC-like cloning. No, it is identical! When it is completed, it will have perfect game compatibility. It will literally be the be-all-end-all of NES systems. The only negative aspect of the system will possibly be its price. The current prototype costs roughly $300 to manufacture! Of course, there is a chance that large scale production and a drop in IC costs could lower that. Time will tell. I'd still buy it at $300, but I am sure that I am in the minority.
Until then, I am going to stick with official Nintendo NES and Famicom systems.
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Indeed no.
I earn a living running OSG because I service EVERYONE. If I had to earn a living off of hardcore collectors only, I would lose a lot of weight.
However, servicing their needs, and game stores needs, and casual PS2 gamers needs, Rento To Own chains needs... you get the picture.
No offense taken.
If you start selling AV version 2 pre-modded official toploaders, you will have a big fan and customer. It would be nice to have an accurate, compatible, reliable, and affordable NES system to recommend to people. The AV Famicom is great, but the need for a cart adapter and the high price of the system in the Western world, turns people away. If you could sell pre-modded official toploaders for under $100 (USA), that would fit the bill for many, many people. If Digitpress ever gets back up, search for my old posts. I was a big fan of Messiah's NEX, until I started to notice some... questionable things, which once I started asking about for clarification, I was either ignored, attacked, or given the run around.
I, as many other NES fans, still dream of the perfect NES system, and eagerly await the day that I can buy one. It isn't hear yet. Maybe it will be the FPGA NES, or maybe it will be something else. Even if Messiah is the one to make it, I'll buy it. I will buy more than one, actually. One to play, one to keep mint in box, and the other to keep mint in box and sell later on down the road
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Somebody hacked DP? Somehow I got the impression that the abundance of images used on their forums was too much for their server.
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omne,
Have you heard about the improved AV mod for the top loading NES? The original AV mod resulted in video that still wasn't as good as a toaster's video output. Well, the guys at NES Dev came up with an improved AV mod, which, they claim, makes the AV output as good as a toaster's. Here is the thread:
http://nesdev.parodius.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=601
If you sold pre-modded top loaders that used the new AV mod, I think you would have a very popular item on your hands. Also, currently, do you sell pre-modded systems, or only provide a modding service? I personally think that your customers are better served by professionally refurbished toasters and AV modded top loaders than they are by yet another "me too" Famiclone.
An electronics store wouldn't sell a DVD player that was known to have issues playing certain DVDs, so why sell a game system that has the same problem? Unlike the Xbox 360, which you brought up, the NEX's main purpose is to play Famicom/NES games, while the XBox 360's main purpose is to play Xbox 360 games. The 360 does have a peripherial feature that it can play some Xbox 1 games, but this is not its central purpose. If Microsoft sold a new revision of the Xbox 1, which couldn't even run 5% of Xbox games, and ran basically all other games with the wrong colors, missing sounds, off-tune sounds, and additional glitches, you can be sure that hell would be raised.
Also, I am not friends with kevtris, but I am a fan. I can safely say that he is the most knowledgable man on this planet, with regards to the workings of the Famicom and NES. I just wish Messiah spent a few extra bucks to pay him to overlook their design. However, I don't think that was ever their intention. They thought they could cut costs by outsourcing their R&D.
Also, the fact that kevtris's clone does not play carts is as much a disadvantage as the fact that an iPod does not play CDs. kevtris also sells a device for ripping your own NES and Famicom carts. Playing NES and Famicom games off of modern flash cards is far more reliable (and convenient) than playing them off of old carts with dead or dying save game batteries. The end result, however, is exactly the same as an official toaster NES... except for the optional s-video output of course
It should also be pointed out that kevtris is open and upfront about the current limitations, inaccuracies, and incompatibilities of his system. Messiah on the other hand blew smoke for months, but now that the NEX has shipped, we have been able to test it out for ourselves and open it up and see if it uses a NOAC or not. We now know the truth, and it differs from the story that Messiah portrayed.By the way, care to comment on Messiah's claims that it is impossible for a clone to implement S-video output because the games weren't programmed for it? Sounds like a lie to me. The reality is that NOACs natively output RCA composite video, and therefore if your clone is designed to use a pre-existing NOAC, true S-video output is impossible. (However, I am sure there are NOAC based clones that fake S-video output by converting, internally, from RCA composite to S-video.)
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The best NES system is an AV Famicom with a NES-to-Famicom cart adapter. That way you can play every NES and Famicom game on a reliable system with excellent audio and video output. It is also compatible with NES and Famicom peripherials, which is something that no other Famicom or NES system can do, as all other systems either have a Famicom controller port and no NES controller ports, or they have NES controller ports and no Famicom controller port.
Most of the toaster NES systems are unreliable because their pin connector needs to be fixed or replaced. Nobody said you have to do it yourself. There are companies/people that will repair/sell you a working original NES. Anybody who claims that the original NES has crappy video output does not know what they are talking about. The original NES has composite RCA video output, which is top-of-the-line when it comes to Famicom and NES systems. Also, not all composite RCA video output is equal. Some clones, for example, have composite RCA video out, but it is very crappy quality.
The official toploader NES has terrible video output quality, as it is only RF, but there are two video mods that add composite RCA video output for improved video quality. The newest such mod makes the official toploader NES have video output quality equal to an AV Famicom and toaster NES. With a Famicom-to-NES adapter, you can play Famicom games on the system, but some Famicom games make use of cart pins that the NES doesn't properly support, so you don't have perfect compatibility with Famicom games. Similarly, the system lacks a Famicom controller port, so there are some very fun peripherials, such as the Family Basic Keyboard and audio casette player which you can't use with the toploader NES.
The reliability issues with the toaster NES are blown way out of proportion. Any other cart based system will have reliability issues when its cart connector and carts themselves get old, dirty and worn. It is true that the original NES is particularly bad with regard to this problem, but it can be fixed either by refurbishing the cart pin connector or by replacing it. But you will still have to make sure that your carts are clean. Check out this "semi-review" of the NEX, which shows that even it has issues with old carts:
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=595687...cUserId=5379721
Finally, the problem with NOAC based clones is not just missing sounds, off-pitch and off-tune sound, and incorrect colors. NOAC based clones can't even run certain NES and Famicom games, and many other games have glitches and other problems when played on a clone. How happy do you think you would be if you got all the way to the end of your favorite game, only to have some glitch bring everything to a screaching halt, just because the NOAC inside your clone had some bug that the game finally stepped on?
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OK, wait. Has anyone tried to get their money back from Messiah? I mean, if they refund your money 100%, then they can't be THAT slimy. I think I remember someone mentioning getting a full refund on another forum...Yes, I was a bit hyperbolic, as there are people that will literally just take your money and not even send you a product. Most of us have been burned on Ebay by such people. But let me just quote one of the recent posts over at NES Dev:
I was the guest that posted earlier about SMB3 and Kirby's Adventure. I've tried to contact Messiah 2 times by e-mail and once by phone to return my NEX console and, so far, no response.I e-mailed them on both their "contact us" and "support" pages, and called their 1-800 number. The 1-800 number gives you 2 options, "dial your party's extension" or "press 0 for operator". Pressing 0 just gives you a voice mailbox.
I'm gonna keep trying to contact them via e-mail and phone, but if I can't get in contact with them by next friday in some way, shape, or form, I'm declaring this a scam and filing a complaint with the LA Better Business Bureau.
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My point is that this is how business is done. Dislike it if you wish. Just be sure to open your eyes that Messiah has done absolutely nothing that you don't see every day in the video game business and others.Like I said, this community eats it's own young.
Yes, in business people lie, cheat, and steal. That does not make it right. In fact, the method of arguement that you use is a common logical fallacy called "tu quoque". I would also like to add that the "community" does not eat its own young, but it is very defensive when it comes to people trying to rip off the community. Messiah did NOT design their own clone. Instead, they did what other Famiclones have been doing for a decade now: wrap a NES-on-a-chip (NOAC) up in a nice looking plastic shell and box. I've seen it all, Famiclones that look like any game system you can think of: Famicom, NES, SNES, Genesis, PSX, PS2, N64, etc. Some look nicer than others, some have games built-in, some are even built into the controller, but in the end what is on the inside counts, and what is inside is a crappy NOAC. At least some of these clone manufacturers wrap up a NOAC into a portable gaming system like the Pocket Fami, which was also released this year but not hyped like the NEX:
http://nesworld.com/pockfami.htm
Good pics: http://www.mo5.com/obsolete/301-musee-hist...ocket-fami.html
Messiah has been less than honest about the fact that it is just another "me too" NOAC based clone with crappy compatibility. The anger is not about destroying somebody that is contributing to the community, but instead is about pointing out that Messiah is doing nothing more than taking advantage of the community with yet another NOAC based Famiclone. An overpriced one at that. A refurbished toaster NES or a USA Neo Fami costs at least half the price of a NEX, and the official NES is more compatible than the NEX.
With all of the fake news articles and fake reviews claiming the greatness of Messiah's NEX gaming system, and the fact that the NEX is just a crappy overpriced NOAC based clone is why there is so much negative reaction to Messiah's NEX.
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I am not sure if anybody else has noticed this, but there are "news articles" that hype up the NEX, and seem to be nothing more than a marketing ploy. Messiah is the slimiest company I've yet to see try to cash in on the recent retro gaming craze. Take this quote from an MTV news article for example:
"A small Los Angeles company, Messiah Entertainment, has promised to release this week the NEX, a system that plays NES games and even enhances the experience with wireless controllers and the ability to play rare Japan-only Famicom games."
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1511657/2...017/index.jhtml
Rare Famicom games? Give me a break, Famicom games are even more common than NES games. Furthermore, your NES can play Famicom games via a cheapy $5 cartridge adapter. Another obviously paid for "news article" makes an even more bald-faced claim:
"To sum up the Messiah NEX will be sleeker and trouble free, works with all our games, and accessories, dual mono, and plays Japanese ports."
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art36274.asp
Works with all our games and accessories, huh? We know that %5 of the USA NES games don't even run, but Messiah refuses to give figures on how many games run without problems. It is probably a much much higher percentage. Also, where do I plug my Family Basic Keyboard or other Famicom peripherials? Where are the Game Genie compatibility tests? In conclusion, it looks like Messiah simply repackaged a crappy NOAC based Famiclone, and then spent some money on fake news articles, advertisement, and hype.
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I'd buy a Famiclone for $1, but anything more would be too much. They are crap, but they are at least worth $1.
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The first prototype of Kevtris's FPGA NES is even smaller than the NEX, and it is currently going under a redesign to make it even smaller and less expensive to produce:
http://tripoint.org/kevtris/Projects/console/
What makes it so great is that it will have 2 NES controller ports, 1 Famicom extension port (NEX lacks this), S-video output (NEX lacks this), 100% game compatibility and accuracy (NEX lacks this), and it is not just cloning the system, but it is also cloning every cart (except the ROM images of course). So yes, it can play NES games stored on a tiny little SD flash card. Note how kevtris is open about the current compatibility of his system, and he hasn't even started selling it yet. Messiah on the other hand kept the NEX's failings under wraps until everybody already bought one.
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Can anyone explain, as if you were talking to a 13-year-old, why a device, like the Generation NEX, would be able to play some NES carts but not all NES carts.I understand that the NEX is not a NES, but I can't figure why some games wouldn't work. What is it that the NEX (or PS2 when playing PS1 games) does not have and why not?
The NEX's unofficial cloning of the NES's circuits is not accurate enough compared to a real NES, and therefore games either won't run at all or will run with glitches, inaccurate audio and video. Messiah cheaped out and outsourced the design of the system to Asia, as opposed to hiring somebody that could accurate clone the NES's circuits. Therefore, while they save production costs, their customers pay the price of ending up with a crappy clone of the NES.
Nothing is stopping somebody from making an accurate clone. A guy named kevtris already has a prototype for a 100% accurate clone, but he is working out of his apartment on his own money, so it will be a long time before anyone can buy it.
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Not really...
Alkalines have a lot crappier shelf life than lithium cells.
And if I recall correctly, at the levels the SRAM in the carts draw, shelf life is more important than raw capacity.
Woulda been better off adding a socket and another button cell.
I have experience with replacing SRAM batteries with coin cell battery holders. For SNES games, I found a holder that fits nicely right in place of the battery. But for NES games, you will need to solder a wire from each terminal of the battery holder to the PCB, and then place the holder in the empty part of the cart above the PCB. The benefit of the NES coin holder option is that the battery is easily replaced the next time around, as the coin holder that I use has a "press to eject" feature. Even better is that you can shake, hit, or drop the cart and the holder will not accidentally eject the battery. I've also found a source for top of the line, highest capacity coin cell battery replacements. Most other places sell batteries with a reduced capacity.
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While Messiah has a compatibility list on their site, the guy who made the list admitted that he stopped recording notes for every game that had issues that did not prevent playing the game. It would be best to make a list that did include such notes, as it is misleading to see their chart and think that your favorite game runs perfectly, only to get a NEX and find out that while it does run, there are graphical glitches and missing sounds.
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Well, the Xbox 360 uses a PowerPC architecture and I believe Nintendulator is x86 only.
I don't see a port being so simple if this is true.
However, there is a port of Nestopia for PowerPC macs, so there's a chance *that* program would get ported.
Is Nintendulator that tied down to x86? Either way, it would be nice to see one of the two accurate NES emulators ported to one of the next-gen consoles, as the next-gen consoles are fast enough to run them at full speed. I guess we will have to wait for unofficial dev kits to leak. I have always recommended FCE Ultra in addition to Nintendulator and Nestopia because FCE Ultra runs on just about every platform: Windows, Linux, Mac, and Xbox. It also runs on lower end hardware. Sure it isn't as accurate as the other two, but for Linux and Xbox owners, it is the best choice.
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Nestopia can also play Micro Machines perfectly. But on the mapper issue, for years I thought that Mach Rider was difficult to emulate because the track would always appear to be duplicated on the screen. Only Nestopia played it correctly. Then one day I changed the header and it worked perfectly on just about everything.For the people who complain about slow and accurate emulation, get a faster computer. I had a P3 800 and Nintendulator wouldn't run very well without a generous frameskip. Now I have an Athlon FX-55 and have no further trouble.
The original Xbox got a port of FCE Ultra, so maybe the Xbox 360 could get a port of Nintendulator? Then if people complain about high system requirements for their emulator, they can just get a 360 instead.
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And where Jagasian are these other options readily available? I don't want to buy a toaster and find that it hasn't had its 72 pin connector replaced and that it's all faded and scratched up, or that I have to replace the connector myself.Since you're so adament that this is a bad choice, I'd appreciate if you gave me a starting spot to look for one that's priced fairly since I'd like a NES that actually works unlike my old one that died.
I am not qualified to recommend a specific retailer for a professionally refurbished, guarenteed working toaster, as I have never purchased from one. You can use Google for finding such retailers, as well as by searching the DigitPress forums. Personally, I refurbish my toasters myself, by stripping them down and cleaning every part. I don't even bother trying to bend the 72-pin connector. Instead I use Caig products, 99.99% pure isopropyl alcohol, stabliant 22, an old credit card, and white paper towels to completely clean the pin connector, and the motherboard contacts. I also put stabilant on the motherboard contacts before I put the pin connector back in place, so that the electrical contacts are nice and strong.
I just rebuilt my childhood toaster NES yesterday. It is missing the controller ports, but even I was amazed that it booted games without blinking. This, in my opinion, confirms that the 72-pin connector problem is due to two things:
1. dirty pins
2. zero-force pins
Since the original connector puts such little force on the pins, they as well as the cart's contacts must be perfectly clean because there is no pressure to force its way through the grime. Hence the problem can be fixed by using perfectly clean carts and pins, or by using pins that put enough force on the connection to carve through the dirt. Ideally, you probably want a bit of both, which is why a clean top loader works so well. You get more force on the pins, but they are also newer and cleaner.
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The 95% compatibility number that NEX has published is somewhat misleading. Even if a game has significant graphical glitches, it is still counted as working, simply because the game boots. In the DigitPress forums, another user claims that Fire Hawk only boots correctly if you press START before the main screen loads, otherwise the game locks up... yet the official compatibility table lists the game as working. Also, even then, how accurate is the audio in the working games?
I think that people need to step back and look at the options:
1. professionally refurbished official toaster
2. professionally A/V modded official toploader
3. professionally A/V modded original famicom
4. official A/V Famicom
5. $25 JAP or USA Neofami
6. $60 NEX
7. some other cheapy clone
Yes there are other options, even other official clones that don't have incompatibilities... but I think 1 - 7 above lists the common options. Note that there is a new A/V mod for the official toploader, which makes the video identical in quality compared to an official toaster.
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The NEX is based on a crappy NES-on-a-chip inside, which inaccurately recreates the original NES's hardware. Just as is the case with an inaccurate emulator, an inaccurate clone doesn't have correct audio and video. For many games, it isn't a big enough problem to prevent the game from running... it just looks and sounds like crap when played. But for other games, the differences are big enough to prevent the game from running entirely or it may run but it will have horrible glitches.
Basically the plan with the NEX seems to have been to make yet another crappy Famiclone, but this time they've decided to at least make the clone look good on the outside. But you know the saying: "don't judge a book by its cover". Due to human nature, many people still judge books by their cover, and so many people have pre-ordered a NEX only to be disappointed with the numerous incompatibilities and crappy, inaccurate audio and video.
For the same money, you could get yourself an original professionally refurbished toaster NES. In my opinion, the case design for the toaster NES is the sexiest of all, though I may be biased as I've had one since I was 5 years old. You also won't have game compatibility problems, and the toaster NES has the best audio and video out of all of the NES systems. Just keep your carts cleaned and you won't have any problems.
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Yeah, that is what confused me, as SonSon is not known to be a difficult game to emulate. If you want an example of a game that only runs correctly in Nintendulator, try Micromachines. Of course, there are many other games that only run in Nintendulator, simply because only Nintendulator supports that specific mapper/cart type. This typically applies to many of the pirates that are still being dumped for the first time today.
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There are many other games that are completely unplayable on the NEX:
After Burner - garbage on screen
Castlevania 3 - dark green screen
Gauntlet (licensed) - minty green screen
Gemfire - solid black screen
Laser Invasion - minty green screen
Rad Racer II - complete hardware freakout, no power light
... and many others.
Furthermore, some of the games run, but have glitchy graphics, or significantly inaccurate audio. Read this NES Dev thread for more impressions of the system and some compatibility tests and accuracy tests:
http://nesdev.parodius.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=698
You are better off with a professionally refurbished toaster NES.
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Yes. Sometimes you will see the rubber dome button parts sold on Ebay.
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Nestopia is not just "one of the best", it along with Nintendulator are THE top two NES emulators. And considering that Nestopia has a Windows port and a Mac port, it is THE best NES emulator for the Mac. For Linux users, FCE Ultra and its decendents are the best NES emulators.
Anyway, if you are on Windows and are emulating the NES with something other than Nestopia or Nintendulator, you are probably missing out on a better experience that is more true to the original NES.