Jagasian
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(and NO WAY I'm using ebony for the black parts though...you know how insanely expensive that stuff is?
)Insanely expensive is part of the idea. Remember the golden Gameboy?
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-ga...00-gold-gameboy
The problem with the golden Gameboy is that its look isn't faithful enough to the original. A real wood 2600 could be faithful AND insanely expensive because of the use of high quality wood. While the golden Gameboy looks gaudy, a real wood 2600 would look classy.
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My SNES broke about 8 years ago so I am also picking one up. Thanks for the info. I had no idea there was two versions of the original one, or that the mini one had ports missing.Just one question. If it isn't yellow now, is there a good chance it will yellow in the future?
Also, why on earth would you buy a clone if the original is so cheap?
If an original model SNES is not yellowed after all of these years, it will most likely not yellow. There are at least 3 versions of the original model SNES... judging from my own personal collection
Again, my recommendation is the 3rd version of the original model: no yellowing, super lightweight, very condensed circuit board, very reliable, has s-video, and has that classic SNES look.I think that people like unlicensed clones because many people hate the old and love the new... even if the new is inferior to the old.
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The official Nintendo made SNES2 is a good system and is very reliable, even though it lacks S-video. However, it is very important to realize that there are counterfeit SNES2 systems out there that look very very similar to the real thing. They are made by the same company, XINGA, that now makes the FC Twin and Gamestation (SNES clone that plays games off of CD).
It is amazing how people get all excited when the same old crappy clones are re-released in a new packaging. XINGA's clone had been around for several years before it was re-released in the form of the Gamestation, and then several years later still... it was re-released as the FC Twin. For some people, two wrongs make a right:
crappy NES clone + crappy SNES clone = winner!
Out of all of these XINGA clones, the only one that actually provided substantial new functionality was the Gamestation, since it combined the XINGA SNES2 clone with the SF7 copier along with an IDE CDROM to play ROMs from. Here is the company's site, where you can order all three packagings of their SNES clone. Remember though, they all poorly recreate the real SNES experience, with bad sound and incompatible games:
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Firstly, stick to an official Nintendo SNES. There are clones, but they are not made by Nintendo, are poorly made, have bugs, and are incompatible with some games. My recommendation is to get a non-yellowed original style SNES. The original style SNES actually came in at least 3 different versions, with the later versions having more condensed circuitry. If the SNES is not yellowed, it typically means that it is a newer version. I have found that the newer versions of the original style SNES are more reliable than the older versions of the original style SNES.
Outwardly visible differences of an older version versus a newer version is that the newer version weighs less, the newer version lacks a cart locking mechanism, and the newer version has "EJECT" molded into the plastic as opposed to printed on the plastic. The best way to tell if it is a newer version is to open it up and look at its circuit board. The older version has a separate sound board.
I'd avoid the SNES2 aka mini-SNES, which while an official Nintendo made SNES, it lacks S-video and RGB support. Yes those things can be added via modding, but why bother? I also swear that my Game Genie doesn't work correctly with the SNES2. The advantages of the SNES2 is that it is smaller and weighs less, but other than that it is inferior to the original style SNES.
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Maybe I'm being dense, but what does this cart do? Looks neat, do you download roms to it to be played? Sell this to me.
You can put ROMs on a standard compact flash card, put the card in the PowerPak cart, and play those ROMs on a real NES. It also has built in Game Genie support.
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Apparently RetroZone will be selling bunnyboy's products, including homebrew parts, reproductions, and the NES PowerPak:
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Personally, I liked the white, clear case better, but what really matters is inside:)I think bunnyboy wanted something more distinctive than the clear case, as there is already another NES cart, the Action Replay, which uses the same clear plastic. The clear red plastic, on the other hand, has not been used by any other NES cart out there. So the PowerPak will be visibly unique.
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The NES PowerPak is here! Now you can play ROMs on a real NES system!
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Hey guys, I've found a new clone on Ebay. It looks like the old school NES, but unlike other clones, it has perfect game compatibility, audio, and video! It also costs less than $30. Check it out!
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My dream is that somebody eventually makes a good new inexpensive clone of the NES. One that has perfect compatibility, audio, and video. But considering that many people seem to get suckered in to the same clone in new packaging... well... maybe my dream will never happen
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So basically this is a CC2 for the NES. $120-$140 is a good price, seeing as how the CC2 sold pretty well at $200 until the end of the second run. And fresh clear cart shells? Someone shelled (ha ha) out the bucks to make new shells? Some folks might be interested in buying a couple hundred shells.
Shame about famiclone incompatiblity, but is it general incompatiblity, or just that the usual games won't work? If it's a general incompatiblity, then this isn't for me. Not only do I not have The Love[tm] for the NES, but my main unit is a SNES Tristar, which presumably counts as a typical famiclone.
I think you've posted to the wrong thread.
Regarding the NES Power Pak, the cart shells are new, and one of the intents of bunnyboy is to get tons of shells made for homebrew developers, as has been done for the Atari 2600 community.
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Do you have any more details? Like pics of the PCB? Where did you obtain the prototype from? How much did it cost you? Has it been dumped? How playable is the game? I'm a collector for the SNES, and I'd love to know how people get their prototypes... other than Ebay, of course.
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bunnyboy just released a few more details:
1. The flash cart does NOT work with NOAC based Famiclones such as the NEX, Yobo, FC Twin, and others. This is not surprising considering that these clones don't work with many official carts, especially carts with more sophisticated circuitry such as MMC5 based games.
2. The boot ROM is upgradable, but since it does not contain the code used for supporting mappers, it most likely will not need to be upgraded. However, bunnyboy said that he would offer an upgrade service if some critical bug was found in the boot ROM.
3. Mapper support can be upgraded via files loaded on the CF card. This is important as game compatibility problems will be due to mapper support.
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I am not affiliated with the project, but let me tell you what is publically known.
Has the flash cart been tested to work with the NEX?
It is unknown exactly how much the cart has been tested. Again, the project has not been official announced yet. Just a few details have been leaked. However, considering that the NEX and other unlicensed clones don't work correctly with many official NES carts, it will be a good idea to make sure that the cart is tested on the specific kind of system that you intend to use it with before you buy it.
Will it have an integrated ROM booting menu or will you need to download a special program to the CF card in order for it to work?
There is a boot ROM that is on a special chip built into the flash cart. However, the details of exactly what the boot ROM does are not known.
Will it have upgradeable firmware?
Rumor has it that the firmware can be upgraded, but the upgrade requires a CopyNES. However, as rumors go, that may not be true at all. A firmware upgrade may be possible without a CopyNES. Other people are very interested in the upgradability of the firmware, so expect a definite answer sometime in the future.
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I think bunnyboy should be permitted to charge a price that allows him to make a few bucks, if not now, hopefully in the future. Hard work has value. It is obvious many many hours have been poured into this.
The community can be schizo about pricing IMO. In the forums things can very quickly turn negative on a project, just from perceptions, real and imagined. For bunnyboy's and his projects sake, this hopefully won't occur.
There are big differences between a NES flash cart and a Famiclone. Firstly, there is no other NES flash cart, while there are hundreds of brands of Famiclones. Secondly, Famiclones are relatively easy to produce, so they can be created in extremely large numbers, which drives down the cost of each individual Famiclone's production costs. This NES flash cart is being made by a single guy, bunnyboy, working out of his home, and he is most likely going to assemble each cart himself, by hand. So the production cost is going to be high.
The only way for bunnyboy to make his NES flash cart less expensive will be to have a large number of the carts produced. But that would require investment, so he is most likely going to try to produce an initial batch of around 100 carts. Then off of the money he makes from selling those, he will create another batch... This will be a slow process that he will eventually grow tired from, which means that there is a very high chance that these carts will be extremely rare. I just can't see him hand assembling more than a few hundred carts before he can't stand it anymore.
Another possibility is that bunnyboy's first batch is well received, and a more established person or company decides to partner with him to help him mass produce his flash cart.
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That's a fascinating idea for a new product!
It would combine the benefits of the NES and NEX. The positive aspect of the NEX is its support for two game slots. However, its AV and game compatibility issues are big negatives for allot of people. However, in order to be absolutely perfect, it would need to support the Famicom expansion port. Such a conversion kit would be difficult to use for many people as it would require soldering, but then again, shops could sell pre-converted systems. But considering that NES fans are most likely 20 to 30+ years old, many of them should have enough cash to pay for the Roles-Royce of NES systems.
The aspect that I do not like about the idea is that it would involve destroying stock NES systems. If you look at classic car collectors, they've long since figured out that it is better to restore cars to stock, as opposed to using after market imitation parts and conversion kits. This is why I am glad to see you are collecting official Nintendo made 72-pin collectors. Even if people decide to replace their connector with an aftermarket imitation part, they should NEVER throw away official Nintendo made parts.
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This is the real deal, or the closest thing to it. There are disadvantages (no FDS support, no extra sound channels, limited selection of mappers at first, development bugs.) However, you could easily use this cartridge to play well over 750 unique games. Now, enough MMC5 functionality can probably be implemented to allow Castlevania III to work. However, more advanced MMC5 games could likely be beyond its capabilities, but this is not certain. Compatibility with Japanese mappers is likely to be hit and miss. However, Action 52 can never work on this catridge, which isn't a huge blow considering how crappy it is.
The real problem will be with support, as users will demand to know why this ROM or that ROM doesn;t work with the cartridge.
My hope is that it is easily user upgradable, so that firmware upgrades can be released as game compatibility problems are addressed. However, it is still too early to tell exactly how good game compatibility will be. Many have tried to make a NES flash cart... and failed to bring anything to market. Everybody has been wanting something like this for the NES, for years now... and this attempt looks like it could actually come to market.
The icing on the cake for me is that bunnyboy is actually getting plastic cart shells made and is going to use a clone of the lockout chip. That is a first that I am really excited to see. Destroying classic NES carts in order to salvage plastic shells and lockout chips is not good. We should be preserving this stuff, not destroying it.
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A useful product would be a conversion kit, which allows for a toaster NES to be converted into a top-loader, with two slots. One for NES and one for Famicom. That way people could have good AV quality, perfect game compatibility, a reliable NES game slot, and a reliable Famicom game slot.
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Tempest,
Please post pics!
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Definitely NEVER throw away original Nintendo made parts. At least give them away to somebody who will put the effort in to restoring them.
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Yes, Jagasian, what is your opinion of the price of this unit? And it's feature set, compatibility wise and value wise? I also look forward to reading your opinions on it once you acquire one, or if you do acquire one at all. Regardless, I look forward to reading your opinions on it. I realize you won't need to get one to have some strong opinions about it.
Is there a link with a full compatibility listing, prior to the sale of it? You know,prior to offering it for sale? Are they taking pre-orders? I figured you would be the guy to ask about that sort of thing. You tend to have your thumb on that sort of thing.
It's an interesting product. I wish bunnyboy well. With a supporter like you, he can expect all manner of big results and online buzz! Cool stuff!
Omne, please keep anti-social behavior out of this thread, or otherwise your continued trolling will be reported to the forum admins.
I am in no way affiliated with the guy (bunnyboy) that is developing the NES Power Pak. I am merely an eager NES fan, and my post was just to give people a heads up about information that was leaked regarding a really cool one-of-a-kind piece of hardware for the NES. Regarding game compatibility, it is still too early to tell. According to bunnyboy, all but roughly 10 USA NES games work, but until a final compatibility list is created, nothing is definite. Also, since the cart uses an FPGA, its compatibility can be improved over time. Also, it should be noted that the NES Power Pak is not yet available for sale. Pre-orders aren't even being accepted yet, and the final price hasn't even been announced.
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If I was going to spend the money on a flash cart, I'd prefer to use it with a real console, not a pirate clone like the FC Twin. But to each his own.
www.tototek.com makes a SNES flash cart, but they are currently sold out.
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That is so awesome. A lot of us have all been waiting for one of these for quite some time. YES!
I've been waiting for so long, and seen so many attempts at a NES flash cart, that I am still a bit in denial that this cart will eventually be sold... but this time I think that we will all finally get a chance to own a NES flash cart. There are flash carts for just about every other cart based system, so it is about time that the NES got a flash cart.
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The cables are not attached to the AV Famicom. You can use "dog bone" or classic NES controllers with the AV Famicom. It is easily one of the best "NES" systems.