Jagasian
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Its my understanding that you never even tried things like the Generation Nex, Jagasian. Leave people alone already unless you have some first hand experience on them for a change.
You are mistaken. While I do not own a NEX, I had hands on access to a friend's NEX. Everything I said about the Generation NEX turned out to be true. The same sure can't be said for the NEX's proponents. You know, they had hands on experience with the NEX, and many people trusted them. I bet they also trusted President George W Bush.
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Games such as "Out of this World" and "Seiken Densetsu 3" (aka Secret of Mana 2) have flat out buggy audio when played on that pirate cloned SNES chipset.I've been looking for specific incompatibility test games
- I tested Out of this World (at least the first two parts anyway) and it seemed fine.Specific sounds don't play correctly. Compare the following on a real SNES and on the clone:
Secret of Mana 2
Final Fantasy 3
Chrono Trigger
Super Mario RPG
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Yes, the FC Twin uses a reversed engineered SNES chipset. It looks like the same chipset used in previous unlicensed SNES clones. Compare the main chips in each clone:
http://assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11851
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=counterfeit_snes
While the printed circuit board layout is different, that won't improve the poorly reverse engineered SNES audio processing unit.
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Because a real SNES can't play NES games without adapters and the adapters most likely uses the cheap NOAC technology so it wouldn't be good either.
And having 2 separate real consoles is a waste of space.
Don't worry about that jagassan guy, he's just a troll that only speaks up when he finds something to bash. Honestly, I don't know why he isn't banned outright as none of his posts are ment to further topics or have fun on the forums.
I am merely stating a fact when I point out that this clone is the same crappy chipsets in a new package. Just because you don't like reality doesn't mean you need to personally attack me. Why do some people take it personally when somebody points out to them the flaws in a consumer electronic product? Is Consumer Reports a troll magazine?
Uzumaki should know that the adapter used to play NES games on a SNES does use a NOAC, but at least that setup will have proper SNES support. The pirate SNES chipset used in the Fami Twin is not a good recreation of a real SNES's chipset. I am sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings, but its the cold hard facts.
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Hose off already...
I OWN multiple NES and SNES decks. This is interesting regardless. It may also save some space, as well as some convenient inputs. I also want to see for myself how well this thing will work out...since this one is fairly new.
This thing is not new. Ever heard of the Tristar, which used the same chipsets to allow you to play NES and SNES games on an N64? Yes this clone has a new shell, but everybody knows that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
The chipsets used in both the NES part and the SNES part of the clone are known pieces of crap. They have appeared in many clones before. The NES part of the system uses a NOAC, and the SNES part of the system uses a well known pirate chipset that has appeared in the Gamestation (a SNES clone that loads ROMs off of CD) and it has appeared in a clone of the mini-SNES. So this is literally the same crap packaged differently. These chipsets are actually worse than PC based emulation. The SNES clone's audio works, but for many sound effects it is absolutely messed up.
I remember getting burned by the Gamestation. Games such as "Out of this World" and "Seiken Densetsu 3" (aka Secret of Mana 2) have flat out buggy audio when played on that pirate cloned SNES chipset. Buyer beware. Unless you are deaf and blind or you don't know enough about NES or SNES games to be able to tell when they aren't playing correctly, avoid clones based on the aformentioned crappy pirate chipsets.
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You guys are totally nuts paying $60 for an unofficial clone of the NES/SNES. NOAC clones are horrid for NES games, so you are left with a SNES clone... and they have their own issues, ESPECIALLY when it comes to sound. So, why not spend $60 on a good condition real SNES?
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Why not buy a perfectly working official Nintendo made SNES on Ebay, as opposed to a more expensive clone that doesn't play every SNES game correctly?
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Thanks for the cool link, a flashcard might be the way to go
I have to admit though the collector in me kind of likes to track down games with the cases etc.... decisions, decisions....The cool thing is it seems like most of the TG-16 games can be picked up at a decent price and looking at screen shots most of them look pretty damn cool. I don't know why I have never bought one of these

A flash card does not mean you can't buy real cards, cases, and manuals. In fact, I encourage you to do so. However, a flash card means you can keep your rare old original cards in storage, reducing their wear and tear. A flash card is also more portable, as you can put several games on the card at a single time. Don't forget you can also use it to play fan translations of games that never made it to the west, yet were hits in Japan.
I mostly collect games for the SNES, and I definitely prefer to have the original complete game, packaging, inserts, manual, box and all. However, I also like to have my cake and eat it to. I am too anal to play my mint condition carts, but I am OK with ripping the ROMs and putting them on a flash card so that I can play them on a real SNES, keeping the original copy in a safe and secure undisclosed location.
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I recommend getting a flash card such as this one:
http://www.ic2005.com/html/2005/show-40.htm
It lets you play TG16 ROMs on the actual hardware. Especially since you are using a portable TG16, you don't want to have to carry around a bunch of cards, so you can rip all of your cards and make a game playlist on the flash card. That way you only need one card, yet you can still have multiple games on it.
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I wish Nestopia would get released for Xbox 360 Live Arcade. If the Wii can have emulation, why can't the 360 have it too?
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Original official Nintendo brand 72-pin connectors are the best. That is why it is better to refurbish a NES's original connector, as opposed to replacing it.
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JB, I tend to agree with you on what makes a good emulator. But isn't this what the MAME developers are vilified about, hardware accuracy over game playability? As long as the colors and sounds are correct, I don't miss slowdown or flicker. Let's face it most people who play emulators want to play the games not recreate hardware problems.
Trying to do away with slowdown via inaccurate emulation will invariably result in new bugs in games. Emulating the games correctly means that the original "problems" of the hardware must be recreated.
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The question was how to play certain SNES games without slowdown, to which I showed a possible option.
Inaccurate emulation is a very poor option. I like my games to look, sound, and play as the developers intended.
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There are literally hundreds of different NES clones. Yes some of them look like official game systems, even the NES itself! The NEX was not the first to make a NES clone that looks like a mini-NES. I've seen variations of the clone that you obtained long before the NEX and Yobo existed, though the one that I remember had games built in in addition to accepting carts.
Personally, I think that a NES clone that can't even play the original Zelda correctly is something short of blasphemy.
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I think a lot of the controversy over the NEX is due to the producer's failed promises, and not from the unit itself. I have one, and it works great for 97% of what I own (300 or so games). Pretty much a few obscure games, Castlevania III, and a bunch of Koei strategy games are the ones that wont work. It plays my stack of twenty famicom carts too, and the controller is my fav NES pad ever. It's not perfect, but it (at least in my book) is a darn good little system.
The NEX also does not correctly play The Lengend of Zelda and Gauntlet... obscure and rare as you may think they are. Also, considering the fact that its colors and sound are not quite right for just about every game that it does play, I'd go as far as to say that it does NOT work great for most NES games. It also cannot be used with any Famicom games that require the special Famicom controller port because the NEX lacks such a port.
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I personally prefer the AV Famicom. It is the Japanese equivalent of the top-loader NES. You can play NES games on it using an inexpensive cart adapter. The main difference compared to the top-loader NES is that the AV Famicom has superior audio and video, as the AV Famicom using RCA composite audio and video, while the top-loader NES uses a poorly designed RF connection. RF is bad enough as it is, but the top-loader's implementation of it is aweful. If you don't believe me, compare the video of an original NES's RF versus the top-loader's RF.
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There were a number of revisions for the NES too...
I am surprised that there isn't as many incompatibility issues among them as there are with the clones sometimes. I mean, the NES ran from (U.S.) 1985-around 1990-1991. Another example: Numerous revisions of the PSX, and the PS2... there are what 15 "versions" of the PS2? Perhaps more. You get that with every console. I am actually surpirsed that there are only (if your info is accurate) 3 revisions of the SNES.
Older game systems were more simple. Hence the reason why there are fewer versions of systems like the NES and the SNES. The compatibility problems with unlicensed clones is due to the fact that they are poorly designed and poorly manufactured pieces of crap. People knock the original NES for being unreliable, but they obviously haven't tried to play their unlicensed NES clone for 20 years to compare to see what poor reliability really means.
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Quoted from the Beggar Prince mailing list:
"As many of you likely aware, we have successfully sold through our initial production run of Beggar Prince (600 copies). However, due to popular demand we have decided to produce an additional 300 copies of this amazing game - and are now happy to announce that we are taking pre-orders for this second run! Orders will be shipped in time for Christmas, 2006."
The game can now be ordered @ www.beggarprince.com
So that will mean that even after this initial production run, there will be only 900 total copies, worldwide, of this game. Does that make it the most rare Genesis game? I still haven't bought a copy, and I think that I will regret not getting a copy if they sell out. Imagine in 5 years when the rarity of this game sets in, and collectors start paying top dollar for mint in box copies of the game.
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The SNES clones are even worse than the NES clones. The biggest issue with SNES clones is their sound. A real SNES uses a fairly sophisticated sound processor that has not been properly cloned yet. Buyer beware. You are better off buying a working official SNES, as it will be just as inexpensive... yet it will work correctly with every game.
I used to have a SNES clone that could play SNES ROMs that were burned to CDs. It had such horrible sound that I ended up getting rid of the clone. Nothing beats a real SNES. Did you guys know that the original SNES came in 4 different versions? The final version is known as the mini SNES or the SNES2, but the full sized SNES had 3 different versions!
They mainly refined the internal electronics in the second and third versions. My experience tells me that the third version of the original SNES is the best version. It supports S-video and RGB video and its insides are very refined and all on one circuit board, as opposed to the original version of the SNES which had multiple circuit boards stacked ontop of eachother, which seems to let the system break more easily.
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All clones sold these days use the same chip inside. It is less compatible than modern emulators for your PC such as Nestopia. My recommendation is to avoid unlicensed NES clones.
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You all will like this product. I wish it was a tad bigger.... but I still like the product... very professional
If anyone wants to go in on something else (say the Sega cart) let me know.
I want to go in on a group buy of the Sega Genesis flash cart.
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Question about this emu. I just downloaded it, and I'm having trouble getting the control pads to work properly. I'm using an (awesome, btw) Saitek Rumble Force controller. It works great with every other emu I've got, but for some reason NEStopia won't let me use this OR my Wingman Precision controller. Every time I click on the Set button to map a key, it just maps the same key over and over. Any suggestions?
Repeat your question over at Nestopia's official forums. The emulator author himself is very attentive to questions like yours, and if it turns out to be a bug, he always fixes the problem very quickly. Here is a link to the official forum:
http://www.bannister.org/cgi-bin/ultimateb...t=0;DaysPrune=0
It is definitely worth getting Nestopia setup correctly, because it is hands down the best NES emulator out there. In NTSC video filter mode, it is so accurate that it looks closer to the real thing than any other NES emulator.
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It would be interesting if Microsoft dropped the price of the Xbox360 to $250.
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So you've obtained a flash kit for the original Gameboy, huh? I have a handful of such flash kits. Personally, I use them on the new backlit GBASP, as opposed to an old school Gameboy, but I'd also recommend using a Super Gameboy on the SNES.
1. The Final Fantasy games (one is actually the original Secret of Mana game).
2. The Zelda game.
3. The Metroid game.
4. The Wario games.

Initial Tests: FC Twin
in Classic Console Discussion
Posted · Edited by Jagasian
The XGA chipset, which from pictures of the FC Twin's circuit board is apparently what it uses, has known issues. Games such as Super Mario RPG do not play correctly, other games play for a while but freeze up during normal play, and most games have incorrect audio. This chipset has appeared in at least two previous clones: the Gamestation and the pirated mini-SNES. I bought a Gamestation roughly 7 years ago, so I have personal experience with this chipset.
The pictures also show what looks like a typical NOAC, which also has known issues. Games such as The Legend of Zelda, Castlevania 3, and Gauntlet do not play correctly.
A proper test would involve comparing the fake system with the real system, side-by-side, running the same games. Also, since the XGA chipset is known to freeze up deep into a game, a proper test would have to play each game for an extended period of time.
There are many anecdotal claims that various NOAC based systems play NES games perfectly, when in truth they do not. I am not sure why people make these claims. Maybe they are unfamiliar with how the games are supposed to play on a real system. Maybe they are color blind and tone deaf? Maybe they only superficially test the games for a few minutes each without comparing the fake system to a real system? Can somebody with previous experience with the XGA chipset confirm whether or not the FC Twin uses a newer version of the chipset or not?