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  2. Posted

    First, as was mentioned earlier, the stock NES can't do Kirby's Adventure either. It uses additional hardware to pull it off.

     

    The NES can't do Kirby's Adventure without additional hardware in the cart. The 7800 can't do Kirby's Adventure in your opinion. In my opinion I don't see why it couldn't do a reasonable port of the game. Since I've coded several scrolling games on the 7800 and you haven't, I'll take my opinion over yours any day of the week.

     

    In both cases, well said. This is basically the bottom line. I am not quite sure why people are arguing about it- it is what it is.

    They are both good systems, but the NES got the "luxury treatment" as far as game development and the 7800 did not (far from it).

     

    The 7800 is very powerful in it's own right, but if given the same additional circuitry boost that many later NES games got just to keep the system viable, of course it could do most everything seen in Kirby's.

     

    It is as if some of the prior discussion is not being read, understood, or just ignored... :ponder:

  3. Posted · Edited by Tubular Gearhead

     

    Tubular Gearhead said:

     

    Was the 7800 Mario Bros. programmed the best it could be? Could it have been done in higher res mode??? How much effort was spent on it?

     

    Huh. You guys argue that 7800 games should only be compared with NES games running on stock hardware. I do just that with Mario Bros., and then you say 7800 Mario Bros. shouldn't be compared because it's not programmed the best it can be (or at least, that's what it sounds like)?

     

     

    Fair point, but I was only thowing it out there because the "lack of resources" argument seems to be the case in so many of Atari's efforts on the 7800, where most of the NES games were done very well and got the most out of the system (although there were some bad-programmed stinkers- just see AVGN :-D ).

     

     

     

    Edit: looks like I need to learn how to use the quote-in-a-quote function. :dunce:

  5. Posted

    The highest resolution 7800 games are 320 pixels wide. Are there NES games that are 320 pixels wide?

     

    For example, take 7800 Tower Toppler, underwater levels, parallax scrolling and all, and picture that engine re-worked as a multi directional scrolling platformer. Expand it, refine it, and there is a theoretical example of what the 7800 could do in stock form. 8)

  8. Posted · Edited by Tubular Gearhead

    So I was just thinking about this...

     

    If someone were to shoehorn the Xbox360 chips into a 7800 cartridge, then we could plug it in and finally quiet the NES fanboys.

     

    This was a joke, and meant w/o disrespect to any NES fanboys. ;) But just to clarify my sarcasm (incase my point was not clear), I believe what was done with Kirby's Adventure was a scaled down version of exactly my prior post- and like others have stated- not a fair comparison.

     

    Kind of like how the functionality of the VCS adaptor for the ColecoVision was all on the expansion module and only used the rf of the CV. Sounds like all the real "amazing" processing in Kirby's was going on in the cartridge and not nesessarily in the NES- but the NES gets credit for it...

     

    It seems that if a developer were to remake the same game for the 7800 with the MMC5 chip, an additional sound chip, and whatever else on the cartridge (probably with a non-standard expanded case), it would be a fair comparison and probably even more so as the 7800 would inherently be able to move a lot of objects around w/o flicker.

     

    I think the only meaningful comparison is between the bare, basic machines. I think in this regard the 7800 can more than stand toe-to-toe with the NES.

  9. Posted

    Not exactly an apples to apples comparison when you consider the hardware built into the cart.

     

    Totally agree.

     

     

    So I was just thinking about this...

     

    If someone were to shoehorn the Xbox360 chips into a 7800 cartridge, then we could plug it in and finally quiet the NES fanboys. :D

  11. Posted

    Disclaimer right up front:

    I am a self-proclaimed "king" of the search function, but I haven't found what I was looking for about the NES. I know a lot about the circuits of old game systems, and have modified quite a few, but I am really not as familiar with the NES as some of you folks. So please help if you can.

     

    After all my reading I can't find a detailed discussion of the actual chips contained in the NES. I don't really understand why the system is thought to be so much more powerful than the 7800. I understand that it benefitted by lots of funding, great programmers, cartridges with added circuits, etc. I know it could do tiles very well. But what chips EXACTLY did it have that would preclude the 7800 from keeping up- excluding the sound issue?

     

    Lets see:

     

    They both had an 8-bit cpu 6052 or equivalent. We all know about Maria, but what exactly did NES have in the basic box for graphics that surpassed what the 7800 had? :?:

     

    I mean, given as much memory as you want (which the 7800 will soon have), and talented programmers, can we without a doubt say that because of *XXXX* hardware in the NES that the 7800 could not do the same game?

  12. Posted · Edited by Tubular Gearhead

    When someone says 'make a deal and you have a deal' what does that mean to you? And then magically after 4 months it is sold? it is odd to me, hence my posting.

     

    IMHO when someone says "make a deal and you have a deal", the "deal" they are referring to implies acceptance and follow-through by both parties- otherwise, your "deal" could have been for $1 (or $20 which is also rather low) and the seller would have to accept, which of course they don't...

     

    I believe this point has already been made.

     

    BTW, I will keep my eye out for one for you, as I am sure others will now that we know you are looking for one. :cool:

  13. Posted

    ...but I guess I just see a lot of empty talk here about what could've been or should've been, and seldom any demonstrations.

     

    Sounds like your egging GroovyBee on. :twisted:

     

    Hey GroovyBee, any 7800XM game progress you want to share (more screenshots pretty please)? :D

  17. Posted

    I also hesitatied to post this, but just for my $0.02...

     

    I have bought from Chris and he is very honest and lets his stuff go cheap if it is going to a good home (thanks for the Channel F Chris...)

     

    I just read his post/response and I am amazed that anyone would not understand it or have any further response on the matter.

    I totally agree with what he said. When selling so many items, nobody should be expected to spend all day answering every "maybe" request. Cash is king. Timing is everything. If you want it, make a strong offer and pay immediately. Period. ;)

  21. Posted · Edited by Tubular Gearhead

    Ok, so I was able to snap a few pictures this morning of the cartridge. This is the first time I have tried attaching photos here with my new camera, so I hope the files aren't too big.

    It might be hard to see, but there are definitely other labels underneath the red ones.

     

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    So what do you guys think?

  22. Posted

    I know I need to take a number and get in line for this one :ponder: , but if anyone has 2600 Espial by Tigervision and is willing to part with it for a reasonable price please PM me. :)

     

    Reasonable price? Not really sure what that is but let's talk.

     

    Good condition loose is basically what I had in mind...

     

     

    Thanks for looking!

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