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  4. Posted

    General question.

     

    Are the games sold there any different than those sold at the original time of release?

     

    I'm asking because I saw someone refer to games on ebay as "O'Shea's games", though they were sold by many random sellers.

     

    I checked out the website, and they all look the same to me.

     

    Can anyone elaborate on this, and if the games are different/less desirable, etc.

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

  5. Posted

    Anyway, what I'm trying to find out is more about the labels and the boxes.

     

    I've seen silver with full picture, silver with partial picture and red stripe, "grey" (not silver) labels, and of course the red label - all for the same game.

     

    Rather than post a picture of the box, it would be more helpful (to a noob) to show the contents, and explain why the differences exist.

     

    Because you can't do this either. Lots of times Atari would for example have extra labels left over from one production run but print new boxes for the next production run. People have found silver cartridges in red boxes, for example -- or vise versa. Going by copyright dates is even worse. In other words, cartridges with different labels can many times be found inside identical boxes. It is generally believed that when Atari Crop took over, they inherited large amounts of unsold ROMs, manuals, labels, and boxes (in varrying quantities) and just started boxing these up along with new printings of manuals, labels, and boxes (also in varrying quantities). The goal was to print up enough manuals, labels, and boxes to make all the ROMs in to complete games that could be sold. As far as why they did this -- since Atari Corp was notoriously cheap, it was most likely to save money.

     

    As I said before, the closer you look the messier and messier things get. It's very hard to drawn any general conclusions, which seems what you're trying to do....

     

    Or maybe I'm still not understanding your question?

     

    Nope - you've understood it correctly; and your answer makes more sense to me now.

     

    I was trying to approach it from a logical (if this, then that) type of analysis. However, that's not possible if the variables aren't constant.

     

    Unfortunately, that makes it (as you said) very messy.

     

    Answer me one thing if you would though. I've noticed silver boxes with English only on the back, and some with 6 languages. Any difference there?

     

    Were ALL silver boxed released games available with the English only on the back?

     

    I don't like the multi-language boxes (that's why I'm asking.)

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

  8. Posted

    You'll pardon me for saying so, but you've all been no help thus far.

     

    I'm asking these questions to help myself become a more informed buyer.

     

    Someone said that the rad labeled Mario Bros. was a PAL release.

     

    Okay - does that mean that ALL red labels are PAL releases?

     

    For example:

     

    Motorodeo is listed as a very rare release according to the guide.

     

    I've only seen one pic for it, and every time I do, it's the red box.

     

    Since it's supposedly rare, I would think that the sealed copies I see on ebay from time to time would go for big dollars.

     

    However, they don't and the ones that go for $150 or so do with criticism.

     

    I'm confused.

     

    Anyway, what I'm trying to find out is more about the labels and the boxes.

     

    I've seen silver with full picture, silver with partial picture and red stripe, "grey" (not silver) labels, and of course the red label - all for the same game.

     

    Rather than post a picture of the box, it would be more helpful (to a noob) to show the contents, and explain why the differences exist.

     

    I would greatly appreciate that.

     

    Also, on the topic - why do some boxes have English only on the back and others have 6 languages? Are there any silver boxed releases that ONLY have the 6 language back?

     

    Again, this would all be helpful information.

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

  9. Posted

    Didn't see anything about this in the rarity guide, so I thought I would ask.

     

    I'm just trying to understand things, so I appreciate it if folks can set me straight here.

     

    First, from what I can tell, there were several releases for certain titles.

     

    For example:

     

    Mario Bros. was originally releases in a silver box with a silver label. Later, it was available in a red box with a red label.

     

    Is the silver release "Atari Inc." and the red release "Atari Corp."?

     

    Second, what's with the silver boxes?

     

    Sometimes I see silver boxes with just English on the back and others with 6 languages.

     

    Can anyone explain this to me? I'm sure there is a difference dues to release time or something, but I would just like to know the story.

     

    As it relates to collecting, is there a English only back of the box for each "silver" release?

     

    Again, any information is appreciated.

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

  10. Posted

    Truth is, I don't think that the guy did anything wrong.

     

    Like deathtrappomegranate said, there's no mention of any boxes, or that they were complete.

     

    The Family Guy dvd was an extra bonus, so it shouldn't matter at all.

     

    So he charged you $15 for shipping, and it only cost $7.

     

    I hate overchargers for shipping, but as far as I can tell, that's all he did wrong.

     

    I equate the picture to those "Stock Photo" pics that people use for their auctions.

     

    My rule of thumb is that if I have ANY questions, I ask them. If they don't answer, I don't bid.

     

    Sorry you were disappointed though.

  11. Posted

    Two other things.

     

    1. As I mentioned in another thread, I'm just starting to collect for the 2600. I'm trying to find the best way to approach this, and I'm bound to make some tactical errors. Should I lose some money, although not desirable, it's not the end of the world.

     

    My intent was never to buy the lot, and try to sell it off and make a profit. I don't know enough about the library for this system to even try something like that.

     

    2. I'm a little surprised as to the mentality of some of the responses above. "I bet it doesn't work." "You won't get your money", etc...

     

    What's the deal here? I thought that this was supposed to be a friendly message board where people would support each other in collecting/enjoying the 2600, etc.

     

    Was I wrong? It seems as though the cynicism is at the forefront of everyone's mind.

     

    I guess I don't understand.

  12. Posted

    Figured I'd reply, since it's me you're talking about... :D

     

    Questions to answer:

     

    1. Yes it works.

     

    2. Originally, I was going to collect loose carts, with occasional complete games as they were reasonably available. However, I decided that wasn't going to cut it for me. I changed my mind to wanting to attempt (key word) a boxed collection.

     

    For that reason, it made no sense to keep the loose cart.

     

    3. As to the pricing. My goal is actually just break even. Not make money. My feeling is that if I got around $150 for the Stronghold cart, I could get around $100 for the rest. With shipping, it cost $250, so coming anywhere close is good enough for me.

     

    I have no reason to BS here, so trust me when I say that these answers are legit.

     

    After all, I'm not selling anything here.

     

    If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

  14. Posted

    You should have checked the contest thread. I gave one away recently, but I still have 2 more.

     

    One I bought, one I traded for and one I won in a contest at NECG.

     

    Any desire to part with one of the remaining two? :D

  15. Posted

    I'm trying to get an idea of scope for 2600 collecting.

     

    It's very unlikely that people will divulge their monthly collecting budgets or how much they've spent on their collections, so I won't bother asking. (However, I am curious just how much this hobby will cost, so if you wish to volunteer that info, super.)

     

    So, here's my question, and I honestly hope that some of the collectors with ridiculously amazing collections chime in, because that kind of information will really help me have a realistic idea about collecting for the 2600.

     

    How long have you been seriously collecting for the 2600; how long has it taken you to put together your collections?

     

    Thanks in advance for any replies. :D

     

    Steve

  17. Posted

    You might find a few at the Temple Mall, just inside the north entrance.

     

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=te...005725,0.011523

     

    Also, if you don't mind a bit of a drive, Game Over in Austin at Lamar and Anderson is an option.

     

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=te...002884,0.005761

     

    EDIT: and you know, it would be really nice to have some kind of local collectors meeting, nothing on the scale of AGE, just a chance to meet up every few months

     

    Works for me - I live in Round Rock, but work at UT. Always wanted to have a local meet/trade/game session!

     

    Let me know if you decide to do something like that.

     

    Steve

  18. Posted

    Nice Work!

     

    It seems as though these at least had boxes (unlike Eli's ladder, for example.) I'm still trying to figure out how they packaged them...

     

    What about those Mythicon games. Did they come in an abnormally long box? I saw some on eBay recently, but the boxes look odd to me.

     

    Thanks again noTi!

     

    Orri-

     

    I was only listing the US NTSC carts. Once you wander south of the border or across the pond, all kinds of exceptions show up.

     

    There are also some games which did not come in regular size boxes, but were packaged with controllers or something special:

     

    with controller:

    Survival Run

    Spitfire Attack

    Mogul Maniac

    Video Jogger/Video Reflex

    Omega Race

    Track & Field

    Star Raiders

    Indy 500/Race

     

    with other extras:

    Phasor Patrol

    Smurfs Save the Day

    Berenstain Bears

    Vidco Copy Cart

     

    multipacks:

    Action Pak

    Back to School Pak

    Game Library Pak

    Racing Pak

    Imagic Twin Pak

    Tron joystick double pack

     

    Then there is this oddity where a couple Imagic games were found shrinkwrapped to a piece of cardboard:

     

    http://www.atariage.com/box_page.html?Soft...6&BoxStyleID=57

     

    Again, those are just the US NTSC ones I can think of right now.

  19. Posted

    It should also be pointed out that the Krokodile Cartridge also works great under OS X, using a USB - Serial adapter. Darrell Spice came up with a simple program to load games onto the cartridge.

     

    Unfortunately, all of that is beyond my technological understanding capacity! :D

     

    (Same with Al's post.)

     

    I believe I understand the gist of what you're saying though. You can load games onto the cart and play them, or you can use it to help program/develop games.

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

  20. Posted

    You can do searches like this:

     

    http://www.atariage.com/software_list.html...ordsPerPage=100

     

    That shows on top the ones that do not have a box scan in the database. But there are too many gaps for you to make sense of that.

     

    R=10:

    Beagle, Romox, Xante (well, there is a generic box shown for Solar Storm)

    Eli's Ladder

    Magicard

     

    Pepsi Invaders does have a box but no instructions.

    Nobody has seen a box for Air Raid but there is rumor of one.

    Answer boxes are all the same, just the game instructions are glued to the box.

     

    R=9:

    Tooth Protectors (came in a styrofoam "box")

     

    All Bomb boxes are the same/generic with the instructions showing through a bog cutout

     

    R=8:

    Diagnostic Cartridge

    Survival Island

    Sword of Saros

     

    I ran out of patience at R=3. That is all the regular releases I can think of that don't have boxes.

     

    This is PERFECT! Exactly what I was looking for.

     

    I actually did try that sort option, but it was impossible for me to determine if there was no box or manual, or if the database simply didn't have an entry.

     

    I sincerely appreciate the information. Hopefully it will be of use someday, when I encounter some of these toughies!

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

  23. Posted

    Am I crazy, or were there some carts with labels made up for this once it was discovered?

     

    I could have sworn that I saw a picture where there were multiple carts made with labels.

     

    Anyone know if that's true (and where they all went?)

     

    Thanks,

    Steve

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